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Is that related to keeping the law? Some here say Rev 14:12 is a reference to keeping the law?It links back to Revelation 13:10 and the end of Revelation 12 - and it is the church still waiting for the rapture to come. The resurrection of the just and rapture time is after the great tribulation is over and thus the church is still keeping her - faith- testimony -commandments-patience.
Yes I mean OT law as the law people talk about when posting this verse.What do you mean OT law? no We have commandments to love God and love one another. We are also told some things such as - not to eat blood, not to eat things that have been strangled and more. The part as to eating things not strangled I have not yet seen how that links to the OT ways.
Looking for explanations and discussion on this verse.
Looking for explanations and discussion on this verse.
Looking for explanations and discussion on this verse.
I do not see the word "ten" in your verse. John does not say anything about keeping the law in any of his letters.We begin by quoting it.
"here is the patience of the saints - here are they who KEEP the Commandments of God AND their faith in Jesus" Rev 14:12
See above.John also writes 1 John 5:2-3 "this IS the Love of God that we KEEP His Commandments"
But not a command in Eph 6.Eph 6:2 Paul tells us that the 5th commandment is "the FIRST Commandment with a promise" -- first in that still-valid-unit-of-Ten.
Please keep religion out of this discussion. You get on to people for not presenting the Bible. You should rely on the same.A Bible point that even the Baptist Confession of Faith and Westminster Confession of Faith will admit.
So what. James does not require the keeping of the law. Not a single one of the good works James talks about are works of the law (10 Cs).And James 2 reminds us that in those commandments we find things like "Do not murder".
Sure why would a lover do that?And of course I think all on this board would agree that we are "not to take God's name in vain" even though a direct quote of that command is found nowhere in the NT.
Kindly explain Rev 14:12. I don't see anything about the ten commandments in the verse. No where in any of John's writings do we find the ten commandments are required for the Christian. The Gospel of John is very different from the others.We begin by quoting it.
"here is the patience of the saints - here are they who KEEP the Commandments of God AND their faith in Jesus" Rev 14:12
John also writes 1 John 5:2-3 "this IS the Love of God that we KEEP His Commandments"
Eph 6:2 Paul tells us that the 5th commandment is "the FIRST Commandment with a promise" -- first in that still-valid-unit-of-Ten. A Bible point that even the Baptist Confession of Faith and Westminster Confession of Faith will admit.
And James 2 reminds us that in those commandments we find things like "Do not murder".
And of course I think all on this board would agree that we are "not to take God's name in vain" even though a direct quote of that command is found nowhere in the NT.
Kindly explain Rev 14:12. I don't see anything about the ten commandments in the verse.
Looking for explanations and discussion on this verse.
I do not see the word "ten" in your verse. John does not say anything about keeping the law in any of his letters.
John tells us this is God's commandment -
23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment. I Jn 3
Jesus says -
10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love. Jn 15
Jesus does not say keep His Father's commandments (10 Cs).
John also says -
17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ. Jn 1See above.But not a command in Eph 6.Please keep religion out of this discussion. You get on to people for not presenting the Bible. You should rely on the same.So what. James does not require the keeping of the law. Not a single one of the good works James talks about are works of the law (10 Cs).Sure why would a lover do that?
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So what. James does not require the keeping of the law. Not a single one of the good works James talks about are works of the law (10 Cs).Sure why would a lover do that?
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After supper he took another cup of wine and said, “This cup is the new covenant between God and his people—an agreement confirmed with my blood, which is poured out as a sacrifice for you."
Is the one I will look at. Here as can be seen their is no talk of the Laws being removed. I leave it to you to study this out. I can not place a thing on your heart, though it does seem The Spirit has already done so.
I am now ready to face the wrath I know full well is headed my way. Keep in mind folks, I have had to answer this topic for my self, and have done years of study to find what is right in my heart.
Just seen your SDA. I was raised as a kid in the SDA. When I returned to it last year, after many years of looking for a place to call home, I was greeted rather coldly in this church. The Long story, one I will not get into on an open forum. It is wrong to openly speak ill of any church. Needless to say it why I now do a home church, and that has been the biggest blessing I never seen coming.No wrath coming - only blessings in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ!