Where do our demons go?

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i want to talk please but i have quite a lot of questions by the way so if i take long am sorry
Its ok, take your time. Because I will end up taking my time as well. No rush and dont be ashamed. See ya on the PM side of town kiddo :oldthumbsup:
 
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Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan came also among them. And the Lord said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the Lord, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it. - Job 1:6-7

Before the Big Boom - There dwelt...

1. The God head - Father, Son, and Holy Ghost
2. Three groups of angels...
___a. Michael - Strong Angels
___b. Gabriel - Wise Angels
___c. Lucifer - Worshiping angels
3. There may have been others, but the bible does not give the account.

And the Lord God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: - Genesis 3:22

As in the previous scripture good and evil were known before the creation. There are probably long tales that could go along with this that I do not know of.
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I believe that the creation of this universe is in response to Lucifer's fall.

And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: - Revelation 12:4

How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:- Isaiah 14:12

7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. - Revelation 12

So, the devils and his angels are here on earth seeking whom they can trip up.

Many think Lucifer was here before the creation, and I say not so, because of Genesis 2 verse 1 Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them. I like your writing, but I thought I would show others what I was shown once. So actually He has not been playing his game as long as many think.
 
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How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! - Isaiah 14:12

Lucifer - heylel in the Hebrew (light bearer) from halal - Or to shine
***Note as this is a Hebrew word it is not a king of Babylon

And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads. And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth. - Revelation 12:3-4

I believe that before the big bang there were three sets of Arch-Angels....

1. Michael - Over strong angels
2. Gabriel - Over wise angels
3. Lucifer -Over worshiping angels

Lucifer seems to be the angelic name... The names devil and Satan came after the fall, along with their evil connotations. We can know the ways of Lucifer by examining his ways on earth. If you look into the Rolling Stones Sympathy for the Devil you can see a lot of ways manifest by the lyrics of the song, including, "Just as every cop is a criminal And all the sinners saints As heads is tails Just call me Lucifer 'Cause I'm in need of some restraint."

In reading over the true story behind the movie "The Exorcist" I find the Catholic priest stating this to the demonic forces...

Priests: In the name of the one God in three Persons, the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. I order you to depart and worship the Holiest Virgin. In the name of the Holiest Virgin and in the name of Jesus… I order you to leave! In the name of the one God in three Persons, the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit, I order you to worship the Holiest Virgin.

The Voice: No.

Priests: You didn’t want to submit to the Heavens, but you had to. To the One God in three Persons, the Holiest Virgin, the Holy Angels, and to Michael the Archangel. Withdraw… In the name of the one God in three Persons, the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.

Notice that the priest brought Michael the Archangel into the situation. Michael's third are greater in power than Lucifers third.

There was a powerful and drawn out sigh and then silence afterwards. As this process endured, at the end was finally Lucifer, and he was the last one left. When he was asked why he was there, his response was “Because I wanted to reign. To be the only creature on Earth. I didn’t want to serve anyone.” At the end, he stammered and stuttered through the “Hail Mary” like those before him, and he too left Anneliese. - from The Entire Case History of Anneliese Michel – The REAL “Emily Rose”. [Warning: Shocking Content]


In the story of the Exorcist we also find Lucifer's reason for the rebellion, in his own words, "I did not want to serve anymore."
 
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How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! - Isaiah 14:12

Lucifer - heylel in the Hebrew (light bearer) from halal - Or to shine
***Note as this is a Hebrew word it is not a king of Babylon

And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads. And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth. - Revelation 12:3-4

I believe that before the big bang there were three sets of Arch-Angels....

1. Michael - Over strong angels
2. Gabriel - Over wise angels
3. Lucifer -Over worshiping angels

Lucifer seems to be the angelic name... The names devil and Satan came after the fall, along with their evil connotations. We can know the ways of Lucifer by examining his ways on earth. If you look into the Rolling Stones Sympathy for the Devil you can see a lot of ways manifest by the lyrics of the song, including, "Just as every cop is a criminal And all the sinners saints As heads is tails Just call me Lucifer 'Cause I'm in need of some restraint."

In reading over the true story behind the movie "The Exorcist" I find the Catholic priest stating this to the demonic forces...

Priests: In the name of the one God in three Persons, the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. I order you to depart and worship the Holiest Virgin. In the name of the Holiest Virgin and in the name of Jesus… I order you to leave! In the name of the one God in three Persons, the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit, I order you to worship the Holiest Virgin.

The Voice: No.

Priests: You didn’t want to submit to the Heavens, but you had to. To the One God in three Persons, the Holiest Virgin, the Holy Angels, and to Michael the Archangel. Withdraw… In the name of the one God in three Persons, the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.

Notice that the priest brought Michael the Archangel into the situation. Michael's third are greater in power than Lucifers third.

There was a powerful and drawn out sigh and then silence afterwards. As this process endured, at the end was finally Lucifer, and he was the last one left. When he was asked why he was there, his response was “Because I wanted to reign. To be the only creature on Earth. I didn’t want to serve anyone.” At the end, he stammered and stuttered through the “Hail Mary” like those before him, and he too left Anneliese. - from The Entire Case History of Anneliese Michel – The REAL “Emily Rose”. [Warning: Shocking Content]


In the story of the Exorcist we also find Lucifer's reason for the rebellion, in his own words, "I did not want to serve anymore."

2 Corinthians 11:14
14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

Angel of light, lucifer, heylel, or light bearer.
 
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Still have not answered the question. I did not expect an answer. To have an opinion about how this is done one must first have knowledge of it, and experience.

Did Gabriele Amorth really exorcise 160,000 demons?

But what of Mr Amorth’s ‘success’ all these long years in casting out demons? I am sure he would say to you that he has seen and heard many things in his work that convinces him he is a true exorcist. Satan can appear by deception to have been exorcised, because it is obvious from the bible that false apostles appear to exorcise. The Pharisees made reference to that when the charged Jesus of casting out demons by the power of Beelzebub. (Matthew 12:25-27a). Jesus will shockingly tell the false ones on His day that though they performed exorcisms, they never knew Jesus.

“Not every one who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father Who is in heaven. On that day many will say to Me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and cast out demons in Your name, and do many mighty works in Your name?’ And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you evildoers.'” (Matthew 7:21-23, emphasis mine)

Christians can be oppressed. That is, satan has power that he has unleashed in the world around us, which finds its way into our flesh and solicits sin. But possessed? No.
 
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If we excorsise our demons where do they go?
I'm under the impression they howl in winds and cause bad things to happen elsewhere, if they can't latch onto already tortured souls then what about our precious Earth and her elements? What if they did make the Earth grumble and the skies cry?
And if Jesus can calm the winds and soothe the waters then all the better for us to grow in Him!

Correct, demons are wandering spirits. In fact that's what the Greek diamona literally meant. In the book of Job, God asks Satan what he was up to and he responds by saying he was "to and fro" (Job 1:7). Jesus taught the same in Luke 11:24. The various spiritual powers also have their abodes in the expanses of the air and in space Ephesians 6:12
 
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Depends where you send 'em. The pit is not a favorite place.

Camden, New Jersey. I send 'em to Camden.

Kidding.

If it's really a 'go where you send them' scenario, you might try sending them to the center of the Sun for a hundred years, and I figure they couldn't get into any trouble there. That's about as close to a burning bottomless pit of fire as you can get. "And every time it's a sunny day, I think of you and smile..."

But, I think I'd rather leave it up to God and not mess around with things I don't understand per
Jude 1:8-10.
 
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If we excorsise our demons where do they go?
I'm under the impression they howl in winds and cause bad things to happen elsewhere, if they can't latch onto already tortured souls then what about our precious Earth and her elements? What if they did make the Earth grumble and the skies cry?
And if Jesus can calm the winds and soothe the waters then all the better for us to grow in Him!
Satan was defeated and is gone. Demons were taken away at the ascension. What we call demons today is the wickedness of our own hearts. Those demons disappear when we take responsibility for our behavior and stop blaming imaginary beings.
 
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If we excorsise our demons where do they go?
I'm under the impression they howl in winds and cause bad things to happen elsewhere, if they can't latch onto already tortured souls then what about our precious Earth and her elements? What if they did make the Earth grumble and the skies cry?
And if Jesus can calm the winds and soothe the waters then all the better for us to grow in Him!

It is my belief that demons are restricted from physical manifestations and are only allowed activity in the spiritual realm with regard to us at this time.
 
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Satan was defeated and is gone. Demons were taken away at the ascension. What we call demons today is the wickedness of our own hearts. Those demons disappear when we take responsibility for our behavior and stop blaming imaginary beings.

Then why does the bible talk about demons being casted out after his ascension?
 
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Why don't atheists ever complain of demons?:/ Are they immune?

They just dont recognise them. A lot of what they diagnose as mental illness is probably demons.

I heard a sermon online not long ago where the pastor said that demons cannot breed or die so there are as many now as there have ever been. As half the people who have ever lived are alive now there arent many to go around. Dont know how true that is though.
 
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They still believed in demons. In that age people who were mentally disturbed were said to be demon possessed.


No the bible talks about it not because they were mentally ill, because demons are real.

Acts 16

16And it came to pass, as we went to prayer, a certain damsel possessed with a spirit of divination met us, which brought her masters much gain by soothsaying: 17The same followed Paul and us, and cried, saying, These men are the servants of the most high God, which shew unto us the way of salvation. 18And this did she many days. But Paul, being grieved, turned and said to the spirit, I command thee in the name of Jesus Christ to come out of her. And he came out the same hour.


The bible does not say she was healed of mental illness, it says the spirit (demon) to come out.

Does it say in Ephesians 6 we wrestle against the mentally ill....
 
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No the bible talks about it not because they were mentally ill, because demons are real.

Acts 16

16And it came to pass, as we went to prayer, a certain damsel possessed with a spirit of divination met us, which brought her masters much gain by soothsaying: 17The same followed Paul and us, and cried, saying, These men are the servants of the most high God, which shew unto us the way of salvation. 18And this did she many days. But Paul, being grieved, turned and said to the spirit, I command thee in the name of Jesus Christ to come out of her. And he came out the same hour.


The bible does not say she was healed of mental illness, it says the spirit (demon) to come out.

Can a Christian have a demon?

I was prayed over in church one time and it was said-maybe it meant I was under oppression?
 
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