Pretend I'm an atheist. How would you convert me?

[CrystalDragon]

I you see it as "harmful and disgusting" to use the Law of God, then it reveals the nature of your heart, that you hate God and His truth.

I think many people would agree that insulting others is not a loving thing to do.

An Atheist cannot be farther from God, they hate God.

You do realize that many atheists were once Christians, right?

 

[rambot]

"Imagine, if you will, a print shop containing many reams of paper, gallons of ink, and thousands of sets of type reproducing over and over the twenty-six letters of the alphabet and the numbers zero through nine. Due to a gas leak, one great explosion occurs in this shop. Ink, paper, and type are hurled randomly and violently in all directions. When the dust settles, the smoke clears, and all components come to rest, the result is all thirty volumes of the Encyclopedia Britannica in order with no misspelled words or grammatical errors. Incredible?

And yet atheists demand we believe that the universe, infinite in size and complexity, incredibly orderly in function, composed of over one hundred chemical elements in virtually limitless combinations, is the result of a "Big Bang" produced by mindless energy eons ago. Our souls cannot afford to play on such childish, irrational faith."

How does it square with you that the Vatican (and its observatory which played an important hand in its development) and numerous Christian scientists support the Big Bang Theory? Keeping in mind that these are very intelligent Christians who have taken a HARD look at the evidence as it was presented.

See, they may deny this up one end and down the next, but Atheism is a faith. A belief in something they think happened. It is a very hopeless feeling faith too. Here is an example another person had:

Atheism IS a faith. But evolution is not. The modus for the creation of the world is ALSO not a faith. Equating atheism with evolution/BBT is inappropriate and is done simply because there is an idea that atheists all believe in evolution, therefore, they are the same. They are not. Atheists also support plate techtonics; and Christians support plate techtonics. Equating a faith with a scientific theory, is misguided.

Honest science actually proves the bible correct..

This is an inaccurate statement; not least of which because science has no goal in proving the bible as correct. Science has proven a lot of things in the Bible as incorrect as well. The problem with your mindset is that it sets up a battle between science vs religion, BUT, there is this pretension in saying "well, SOMETHINGS you do is ok".
What you call "honest" science isn't actually "honest" science but simply "science" that supports your view. That's not a way to view science; it doesn't work like that.
There will never be physical evidence disproving Christs' death and ressurection. But there is already physical evidence that disproves a literal understanding of creation.[/QUOTE]

 

[PuerAzaelis]

Pretend I'm an atheist. How would you convert me?

I would listen.

 

[Zoii]

I you see it as "harmful and disgusting" to use the Law of God, then it reveals the nature of your heart, that you hate God and His truth.



An Atheist cannot be farther from God, they hate God.

Joe quit it that was very disrespectful to her

 

[Zoii]

No Christian believes in evolution who rightly understands the doctrine of evolution and rightly understands the truth of God.



Which is utterly irrelevant and meaningless, since the Pope is just another sinful man.

Joe im seeing how you talk to christians sharing their views so .... with respect to the OP, im guessing you have trouble converting anyone

 

[Zoii]

No Christian believes in evolution who rightly understands the doctrine of evolution and rightly understands the truth of God.



Which is utterly irrelevant and meaningless, since the Pope is just another sinful man.

CrystalDragon was kind enough to share her view and noone here deserves the way you attack them.

 

[rambot]

Rambot
Not at all. It means don't offer people what they don't want. Most atheists know what they want and it is not Jesus. .

And yet we send missionaries to Muslim countries to evangelize? Why would God people to do that?

 

[HereIStand]

As I've heard (and agree with), the problem of evil (or why does a good God allow evil?) is the only good argument for atheism. A good counter to this argument is the book of Job. No one has ever suffered more than Job. He did not know why that he suffered, but he understood that no purpose of God's could be overcome. Also, the Grand Inquisitor (basically a problem of evil argument) and the Russian Monk (a response to Grand Inquisitor) sections in Dostoevsky's The Brothers Karamazov are thought to parallel the book of Job. They might be a good resource also.

 

[JoeP222w]

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[brinny]

Pretend I'm an atheist. How would you convert me?



The title says it all.

I went to an atheist forum to preach about God and failed miserably. I don't know if they were closed-minded or I was just too much of an idiot to persuade someone of anything. Either way, I want to be someone who is good at debating on the side of my God.

So how would you approach such a situation? What would you tell me to convince me out of my atheism?

Let's say, for example, that I believe in evolution instead of creationism. What would you tell me? (That's just one example of many. Don't focus on it, please.)

Only the Holy Spirit wins hearts, minds, and souls.

Not "us".

This verse comes to mind:

"The fruit of the righteous is a tree of life; and he that winneth souls is wise." ~Proverbs 11:30

God bless you for having a heart for souls, however. Praying for you and your ministry.

 

[JoeP222w]

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[JoeP222w]

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[JoeP222w]

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[Kit Sigmon]

I am the worst evangelist. All I can do okay is offer rides to my atheist/agnostic friends to church. Only they live opposite ways so I'm like aaah what if they both wanted to go and I can only drive one person anyway?

Leave early and pick them both up.

 

[section9+1]

Rambot
I have a novel idea. How about you do what you want and I'll do what I want. I'm not telling anyone else what to do and I am not one for being on the defensive very long. I simply responded to the question. If you take offense, that's too bad, but I'm not interested in hearing about it.

 

[Kit Sigmon]

Pretend I'm an atheist. How would you convert me?



The title says it all.

I went to an atheist forum to preach about God and failed miserably. I don't know if they were closed-minded or I was just too much of an idiot to persuade someone of anything. Either way, I want to be someone who is good at debating on the side of my God.
If that is something the Lord laid on your heart to do, then the Word won't return void.
In cyberspace it's all too easy to hide who you really are and what you really feels or believes...some come online and act all tough but in real life they ain't like that...so many have online "personas" that are fake.

So how would you approach such a situation? What would you tell me to convince me out of my atheism?
If it be there be the opportunity that you were indeed "open" to the gospel, I'd share the good news of the gospel with you and pray for you.

Let's say, for example, that I believe in evolution instead of creationism. What would you tell me? (That's just one example of many. Don't focus on it, please.)

Not even Paul could convince King Agrippa to become a believer...you can only give the gospel message.
The rest of the transaction is between you and the Holy Spirit.

 

[JohnLuna]

I think we can't change or force anyone, we should just give them a good testimony with the way we live and pray, the Holy Spirit will do the rest. This is just my opinion, maybe I am wrong

 

[DeerGlow]

Leave early and pick them both up.

I can only legally drive one person.

 

[paul becke]

Pretend I'm an atheist. How would you convert me?



The title says it all.

I went to an atheist forum to preach about God and failed miserably. I don't know if they were closed-minded or I was just too much of an idiot to persuade someone of anything. Either way, I want to be someone who is good at debating on the side of my God.

So how would you approach such a situation? What would you tell me to convince me out of my atheism?

Let's say, for example, that I believe in evolution instead of creationism. What would you tell me? (That's just one example of many. Don't focus on it, please.)

I would pray for you for as long as the Holy Spirit prompted me to. This would offer some prospect of your converting at some time in the future, maybe decades later, maybe the next day. But your heart would need to be made receptive: facts and logic alone can never suffice. The gift of God's grace is indispensable.

 

[Halbhh]

Ideally, individually over time, in a friendly relationship. To create a friendship, and then in time to tell my friend of some of the wonderful things that have happened to me. To testify to him because he is my friend. He will convert if it is in him to do so. So, I'm not approaching him just to preach a message and leave, in this scenario, but instead I'm aiming to "love your neighbor as yourself".

Now, there are mostly agnostics and some atheists who are not ardent or religious in their viewpoints, but are about other things in life, but there are some that are more ideological, and you may have to learn in that case to be able to answer some of the deeper questions like "Why is there suffering", which might be in a pointed form like "why do children get cancer" or something like that, and so you'd either have to honestly say "I don't know", or you could learn how to answer that, by reading and learning answers to questions like that. But most are not so ideological, and are very willing to hear about your own experiences, how Christ has changed your life. In contrast if you went to an atheist meeting, that's very likely to be a very militant, ideological group. What then? --

3 “I’m going out to fish,” Simon Peter told them, and they said, “We’ll go with you.” So they went out and got into the boat, but that night they caught nothing.

4 Early in the morning, Jesus stood on the shore, but the disciples did not realize that it was Jesus.

5 He called out to them, “Friends, haven’t you any fish?”

“No,” they answered.

6 He said, “Throw your net on the right side of the boat and you will find some.” When they did, they were unable to haul the net in because of the large number of fish.

In other words, I'd leave a militant religious style meeting of ideological atheism, and instead go make a friend of a non believer....