Why seek "God"?

[TheOldWays]

That's not a good thing, necessarily. Not something to put ones hope in. The belief in rebirth in traditionalist Buddhist societies can rob human life of dignity. Especially for the disabled and women.

Christians all agree that salvation is through faith in Jesus Christ. It's clear that real faith is the one thing you lacked for some time, and that is why you see no way.

Wow.

 

[habibii zahra]

Well, you could say this is exactly what happened to my fifteen-year-old self: I experienced Love as a cosmic power, the underlying principle of reality that draws all things together.

And I found that "God" was too small a concept, especially the way the various religions paint it. Too small, too petty, too human.

you are refusing to try to meet him or to feel him what can I do for you? he is there there is no god but him the merciful god
all monotheistic religion prove his existence thus why doubting it?

 

[habibii zahra]

How do you know I didn't want to see him?

I'm not seeking to "feel his mercy" or "his beauty" - I want to see him - as an alleged individual - not his alleged qualities.

How else would I know that the "beauty" I might feel truly comes from him, and not from Apollo, or Aten, or Ahura-Mazda, etc?

because he is the only one god out there there is no god but him thus feel his beauty

 

[habibii zahra]

all divine books talks about the only true god..Christians jews and muslims talks about him so why doubting it...despite doubting his existence try to search for him

 

[habibii zahra]

what can I say for you..whether you believe it or not god exists..he created the whole universe he controls everything ..you exists who controls your existence? who makes you die? who brought you into life??? your existence is a proof of his..who controls everything in the whole universe?? he is him the lord the god of the worlds

 

[dlamberth]

what can I say for you..whether you believe it or not god exists..he created the whole universe he controls everything ..you exists who controls your existence? who makes you die? who brought you into life??? your existence is a proof of his..who controls everything in the whole universe?? he is him the lord the god of the worlds

The controlling everything also includes not believing in God. God has made room in His Creation for infinite variety, which includes non-belief.

 

[toLiJC]

The mystical aspect comes in when God IS a reality in ones life and where a person desires a deeper communion with God that goes beyond "Faith". I asked you about the "Heart of Christ", and got no answer. I suspect that's an aspect of Faith that you haven't explored yet. But Christ is there for us to open up to in a deeper way. He has even invited us to do so. And that's what I'm talking about. For a "seeker", there's Faith, yes...but that's only the beginning. Why stop there? And...why deny those inner experiences of God when through that process that's also how much of Christian theology came to light? And your even quoting mystical experiences taken from the Bible!

where in the Bible can you find any (deeper) communion with the true God that goes beyond the faith?!, the heart of Christ is not anything we can seize, and Jesus Christ was the first one who talked about the faith spoken of in the biblical books of the New Covenant, and He says there can be no true spiritual perfection without faith, prayer and fasting (as in Matthew 19:19-21 and Mark 9:29), and if we have to pray to Him, we have also to believe that there is a true God, otherwise the worshiper has at least to be faithful to the perfect truth/righteousness, so neither Jesus nor any of His true disciples said that there is anything deeper in Him that goes beyond the faith, the prayer and the fasting, but their words are clear and categorical, namely that evil cannot be removed completely and permanently by anything but only by prayer and fasting (which are the two main aspects of the faith), evil that prevents people even from being perfect according to the truth of the true One...

your point of view is distorted if you still think there is a mysticism in what the true Saints do...

Blessings

 

[toLiJC]

If "God" is almighty and infinite, I see no reason why it would be engaged in a "struggle" at all - whether with itself, or with a separate force. I would not consider such a being, engaged in such struggles, to be at peace ... or to be seen as the ultimate hope.

the true God is not in peace with the "darkness", namely because there is a "darkness(wicked/evil one)" in the universe that fights against the true "Light", an entity that is also (as with the true One) indefinitely existing throughout the time's infinity, IOW, it cannot be destroyed for all the time's infinity, but as for its permanent removal, it can only be closed and locked in a special structure until the end of the single(little) eternity, which is a period, albeit longer than the millennium (just as the millennium is longer than the century), that is why Jesus says:

Luke 12:49-51 "I have come to cast fire upon the earth; and how I wish it were already kindled! But I have a baptism to undergo, and how distressed I am until it is accomplished! Do you suppose that I came to grant peace on earth? I tell you, no, but rather division;"

the world of human(666) spirituality/religiosity has lied about the might of God, the true One is really omnipotent to do all kinds of good things, but only within the eternity, because there is a beginning and end even of His life, not that He ever dies completely and permanently, His "death" at the end is only partial, because He always remains alive, He is the only entity/being that lives throughout the time's infinity, however, the end of His life cycle is unfortunately accompanied by a release of the "darkness" from that place (in which God closes and locks its manifestation) as well as by a disintegration of His creation...

Blessings

 

[toLiJC]

How is spiritual activity, not mysticism?

mysticism is a kind of spiritual activity, but not every kind of spiritual activity is a mysticism...

Blessings

 

[dlamberth]

mysticism is a kind of spiritual activity, but not every kind of spiritual activity is a mysticism...

It's the "awareness" of the spiritual activity is when it becomes mysticism. That's true for any spiritual activity.

 

[ananda]

because he is the only one god out there there is no god but him thus feel his beauty

How do you know that "feeling" of beauty comes from Allah, and not yourself, or Apollo?

 

[ananda]

all divine books talks about the only true god..Christians jews and muslims talks about him so why doubting it...despite doubting his existence try to search for him

How did you select your "divine books"?

 

[dlamberth]

where in the Bible can you find any (deeper) communion with the true God that goes beyond the faith?!,

John 14:6: No one comes to the Father except THROUGH me. The "through" part invites a deeper communion with Christ that goes way beyond "Faith".

I'm still wondering what you have to say about the "Heart of Christ", as experienced "through" Christ?

 

[Dwells]

Why do people seek "God"?

Buddhism explains our search in terms of dukkha (aka suffering, discontentment, displeasure, etc.). That is, because of dukkha, we seek out god(s), saviors, prophets, psychics, doctors, politicians, love, food, money, sex, sleep, entertainment, etc.

Why not address dukkha itself, as the Lord Buddha taught, instead of seeking to treat its symptoms? Dig out the roots (of dukkha), instead of endlessly snipping its offshoots.

Why do you ask this question, if Buddha is enough, his teachings will answer it for you.

 

[ananda]

the true God is not in peace with the "darkness", namely because there is a "darkness(wicked/evil one)" in the universe that fights against the true "Light", an entity that is also (as with the true One) indefinitely existing throughout the time's infinity, IOW, it cannot be destroyed for all the time's infinity, but as for its permanent removal, it can only be closed and locked in a special structure until the end of the single(little) eternity, which is a period, albeit longer than the millennium (just as the millennium is longer than the century), that is why Jesus says:

Luke 12:49-51 "I have come to cast fire upon the earth; and how I wish it were already kindled! But I have a baptism to undergo, and how distressed I am until it is accomplished! Do you suppose that I came to grant peace on earth? I tell you, no, but rather division;"

the world of human(666) spirituality/religiosity has lied about the might of God, the true One is really omnipotent to do all kinds of good things, but only within the eternity, because there is a beginning and end even of His life, not that He ever dies completely and permanently, His "death" at the end is only partial, because He always remains alive, He is the only entity/being that lives throughout the time's infinity, however, the end of His life cycle is unfortunately accompanied by a release of the "darkness" from that place (in which God closes and locks its manifestation) as well as by a disintegration of His creation...

Blessings

Your deity sounds like it is locked in an eternal struggle with something it cannot master (the darkness).

 

[ananda]

Why do you ask this question, if Buddha is enough, his teachings will answer it for you.

Yes, what the Lord Buddha taught about it provides the most reasonable and definitive answer to the question, in my mind.

My question is more rhetorical for others, and to consider other perspectives.

 

[Dwells]

Yes, what the Lord Buddha taught about it provides the most reasonable and definitive answer to the question, in my mind.

My question is more rhetorical for others, and to consider other perspectives.

Then God is pursuing you. Much like God pursued Buddha.

 

[ananda]

Then God is pursuing you. Much like God pursued Buddha.

What makes you say that?

 

[Dwells]

What makes you say that?

You've come here to ask your question. If you want water you go to the well, if you seek sand you go to the desert.

 

[ananda]

You've come here to ask your question. If you want water you go to the well, if you seek sand you go to the desert.

"Asking a question" = "God is seeking me" ... I do not see the connection. Seems pretty tenuous & arbitrary. Someone could just as easily claim:

"Asking a question" = "Zeus is seeking me"
"Asking a question" = "Buddha is seeking me"
"Asking a question" = "Satan is confusing me"
"Asking a question" = "I must be a witch"

I see the well labeled "God" and it's empty.