I think we're in agreement on what you said above. I'd just like to ask you honestly, are you sure you are really seeking Jesus for the definition of sin or are you still being influenced by theology which may or may not be correct. Are you taking an unbiased look as I am tried to do?
I confess, that I do naturally have a biased view, because I see a world groaning under the burden of sin and it tempts me to speak against it. In saying this, through reading 1 Peter this morning, I have been reprimanded: my service has been motivated by a passion of my own flesh (specifically anger), which does not assist Jesus Christ to be liberated.
I agree. I'm just not sure that just looking at a picture of a naked lady is contrary to being holy and noble.
Are you able to give an example of a holy and noble reason that someone would do this?
I'm presuming to speak in Jesus name? I'm just a Christian man trying to figure out the word of God. I never claimed to be a prophet or anything.
When you became Christian, you must have understood that you are called to be a light in the world (Matthew 5:14).
When worldly people see you and the badge that says "I am Christian", do you not expect that they perceive you to represent Jesus Christ, as an opportunity to judge the reality of The Gospel as it applies to them? When you speak to make assertions in that capacity, you are speaking assertively in His name. When you do so without His explicit permission, you are doing so presumptuously (eg, Jeremiah 23:21-22).
I would like to share with you 1 Peter 4:11, because that pierced me too, this morning.
Not sure why I gave you the impression I'm not serious about my opinion? Maybe you just feel my points not valid because they are contrary to modern conservative Christianity to a certain degree and you're not able to think outside the box even for a second.
Fair enough. If you would like to press on with me in my repentance, I will make better effort and maybe we will overcome this. Would you kindly not think of me in stereotypes though? TY
Because I feel that the church has a lot of incorrect views on sex that is very harmful. I enjoyed discussing that so that I can hopefully get to a correct view myself and encourage others to do so.
My position on the inappropriate content topic is that having sexual thoughts, fantasies or viewing nudity and watching sexual videos are not sinful necessarily. But there are valid reasons not to look at commercial inappropriate contentography that have been mentioned by others here and I agree with. That same reason also extends to many of the products we purchase food, clothing, cell phones that are made under bad circumstances that require abuse of other people.
You have heard my reasons for maintaining a different view.
I only seek your honest, unbiased opinion, whether this behaviour that you describe "having sexual thoughts, fantasies or viewing nudity and watching sexual videos" is the sort of behaviour that you imagine Jesus Christ will have participated in? What about any of His 12 disciples?
You've mentioned this a few times now. This view is not in the Bible though. Where is the verse that supports your view on this?
This view is in the bible, in fact, but I am prevented from publishing this due to the wisdom in Matthew 25:9, Proverbs 11:13, Matthew 13:11, Matthew 11:25 and 1 Thessalonians 5:2.
I am not to deny you a cup of water in His name though, so I will suggest you very solemnly consider Matthew 5:28 and Romans 1:28 as being the lawlessness at work in Matthew 24:12, creating the society described in Luke 21:23 and this is what I am describing - our world this day is such that Romans 1:27-28 (Isaiah 4:1) - why? It is because women do not perceive that men actually love them. Whenever they see men looking at them, they know the man is mentally masturbating. Actually, there is more of a connection in the soul from their female companions, and when they open that door, they find more satisfaction there.
God did make Eve for Adam, that was why he made her. I don't see how desiring someone sexually takes away their value. What about your wife? Is it ok to sexually desire your wife or are you taking away her value too?
I have never been married, thus you might be best to inquire the POV of your own wife.
Being a virgin in Revelation is considered one of the admirable virtues they posses, which makes them a better gift. Yes of course to marry someone who is a virgin is a great gift, I'm not saying it isn't. But I still think it's a bit of a leap or jump to then say well if you do not provide your future spouse with the best possible gift you can give them then you are sinning.
Well, it's all rather argumentative at this point. Fundamentally though, the issue is that Christians acknowledge the fact that The Holy Spirit lives within us, and Romans 8, specifically Romans 8:13 explains that there is contention/struggle to gain our will, actions, mind and words, between our fleshly desires and the desires of The Holy Spirit.
Also is there anyone who being a healthy young single person does not have sexual thoughts about some other person at some point? I'd be surprised if there's anyone who doesn't have sexual thoughts about someone they are engaged to even people who are saving sex for marriage.
It begins when we open the door to indulge in the desires of the flesh rather than the spirit, and this is largely why I have condemned the irresponsible, demonic nature of public media. It is not The Holy Spirit of God that lusts after the desires of the flesh nor tempts us to sin, but it is of The Holy Spirit of God to see the person inside and connect with the heart - serving, loving, coming to know who it is that exists as an earthly vessel.