Can you be a Christian and reject certain parts of the Bible?

[D2wing]

To me, when I was convicted by the Holy Spirit to repent and follow Jesus, I was also convicted that the Bible was the word of God. I also believe that God is supernatural and can do anything. How he does those things is not material. How literal should stories be, I don't know. But it is a test of faith, to believe God's word or not. I believe it. I think the assumption that a narrow group of so called scientists say that parts are not true makes the Bible false, is a very poor one. No one on Earth knows. They just have weak assumptions. I believe that in due time all things will be revealed but until then I choose to believe the Bible and not worry about the things I do not understand. That is for people stupid enough to reject the truth without any proof. There is no proof that any part of the Bible is false.

 

[Armoured]

The person with the Holy Spirit, he accepts all of God's true Word and reject any attempt to add heretical teaching to God's Word.

Doesn't really answer my question, though, does it? Give me a checklist so I can identify him when I meet him.

 

[grasping the after wind]

I believe we need to be careful in saying something is an analogy or parable when God doesn't specify that it is. For instance, the Creation week was literal, the flood was literal and covered the whole world, not just parts of it, Jesus walked on water and changed water into wine were all literal. These were not analogies or parables.

I think we need to be careful as well. We also need to be careful we don't simply dismiss possibilities because we want to. I am open to the possibility that a portion of Genesis , in particular the creation account is not entirely literal. As no human witnessed it and as the entirety of it might just be beyond our ability to comprehend, I would not rule out the possibility that God saw fit to describe it to us in a way that made as much sense to the human mind as was possible. That being said, I will not state that the written account is categorically not the way things were done. Either way, IMO there are no implications to one's thoughts on the Creation account that would cause one to stray from God.

 

[Thedictator]

Heb10:16&17 - Yes I believe in all of God's Word (Bible) and his new covenant.


Rom3:20

- I said nothing about the old Law, it does not bring salvation, but it does lead one to salvation. The old Law teaches us that we need salvation.

 

[Albion]

That's a easy question to answer in my mind. No. Rejecting any piece of the Scriptures is to reject a literal piece of our savior. If we believe "the Word became flesh" we can not regard any piece of the "Word" as unimportant or errant. Period. To say otherwise, in my mind, is reflective of your personal relationship with our Savior.

Furthermore, while it may be off topic, this idea of "it has no bearing on my salvation" is really quite frustrating to me. It comes off as saying "As long as it has no bearing on the debt that I owe, that our Messiah paid, I don't care." How absurdly selfish and NOT AT ALL like a bride!! Folks you're entering into a marriage with your Messiah. Every. Word. Matters!

Imagine yourself saying something similar to your wife when she is telling you about her day at work (as an example only). Do you respond, "How does that affect my personal needs?" Seriously, as a faith group we need to quit being selfish and thinking it's all about "my own personal salvation" and realize this faith is a two way street. Salvation is only the beginning - there is so much more in the Word and there will be far more in the Kingdom.

In one sense, anyone who makes Christ the center of his religious beliefs is a Christian. Not necessarily a good one, but a Christian. But it will be objected that only those who have all the tenets of the faith correct should be called a Christian...or that a person who believes all the articles of faith and has had a conversion experience is a true believer and, therefore, a Christian. The question really cannot be answered well if it's phrased as the title of this thread did.

 

[stuart lawrence]

That's a easy question to answer in my mind. No. Rejecting any piece of the Scriptures is to reject a literal piece of our savior. If we believe "the Word became flesh" we can not regard any piece of the "Word" as unimportant or errant. Period. To say otherwise, in my mind, is reflective of your personal relationship with our Savior.

Furthermore, while it may be off topic, this idea of "it has no bearing on my salvation" is really quite frustrating to me. It comes off as saying "As long as it has no bearing on the debt that I owe, that our Messiah paid, I don't care." How absurdly selfish and NOT AT ALL like a bride!! Folks you're entering into a marriage with your Messiah. Every. Word. Matters!

Imagine yourself saying something similar to your wife when she is telling you about her day at work (as an example only). Do you respond, "How does that affect my personal needs?" Seriously, as a faith group we need to quit being selfish and thinking it's all about "my own personal salvation" and realize this faith is a two way street. Salvation is only the beginning - there is so much more in the Word and there will be far more in the Kingdom.

I like to believe that God, through the Holy Spirit would convict me in arreas of my life that need addressing.
I've been convicted of much at times, I can assure you, but never concerning the timescale of creation. That is, unless i wandered into a debate about it on the internet, which i would rarely do

 

[stuart lawrence]

- I said nothing about the old Law, it does not bring salvation, but it does lead one to salvation. The old Law teaches us that we need salvation.

I responded to an altar call when I was ten. The law didn't lead me to do it, I just felt it was the right thing to do.

 

[NJM24]

Can you be a Christian and only believe some parts of the Bible? For example, can you reject a global Noah's Flood, a six-day creation, a literal exodus, etc.? Could you reject other parts as well, like Christ walking on water? Discuss.

Well....I thought being a Christian was based on believing that Jesus is the son of God and that he died and was resurrected for our sins. Romans 10:9 says declare with your mouth and believe in your heart it doesn't say and believe everything you read in the Bible. Believing in the Bible in my opinion does not determine if we are Christians but it does teach us how to live more Christ like. Just my opinion

 

[Armoured]

Read Matthew 7:21-23 It talks about watered down salvation. Also Verse 15

That's nice. Prove whose definition of salvation is correct and whose is "watered down"?

 

[Thedictator]

Doesn't really answer my question, though, does it? Give me a checklist so I can identify him when I meet him.

Sorry, There is no checklist. Just those who are saved by the blood of Jesus, washed by the Holy Spirit in God's Word. True Christians Know falsehood and Truth.

 

[Armoured]

Sorry, There is no checklist. Just those who are saved by the blood of Jesus, washed by the Holy Spirit in God's Word. True Christians Know falsehood and Truth.

Uh-huh. Convenient.

So let me guess, any one who disagrees with your preferred Biblical interpretation doesn't qualify?

 

[Thedictator]

Well....I thought being a Christian was based on believing that Jesus is the son of God and that he died and was resurrected for our sins. Romans 10:9 says declare with your mouth and believe in your heart it doesn't say and believe everything you read in the Bible. Believing in the Bible in my opinion does not determine if we are Christians but it does teach us how to live more Christ like. Just my opinion

You can't be a saved Christian and Reject God, If you reject any part of who he is you reject all of him. Jesus Christ is the Word (John 1 ) You reject the Word you reject Jesus. I'm not talking about different kinds of interpretations, no one has to be perfect in understanding, but to reject God's Word is to reject Jesus Christ no way around it. ( John 1 Jesus is the Logos )

Salvation is found in All of the new Testament, not just in one verse taken out of context.

 

[Armoured]

You can't be a saved Christian and Reject God, If you reject any part of who he is you reject all of him. Jesus Christ is the Word (John 1 ) You reject the Word you reject Jesus. I'm not talking about different kinds of interpretations, no one has to be perfect in understanding, but to reject God's Word is to reject Jesus Christ no way around it. ( John 1 Jesus is the Logos )

Salvation is found in All of the new Testament, not just in one verse taken out of context.

Ah, a "The Bible is the 4th person of the Trinity" argument. Haven't seen one of those in a while.

 

[Thedictator]

Uh-huh. Convenient.

So let me guess, any one who disagrees with your preferred Biblical interpretation doesn't qualify?

No, Interpretations are of man, Truth is of God. 2 Peter 1:20-21

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Sorry, There is no checklist. Just those who are saved by the blood of Jesus, washed by the Holy Spirit in God's Word. True Christians Know falsehood and Truth.

There is a 'checklist' sort of - verifying by GOD'S WORD
before
believing something. There are enough descriptors HE states
to verify something , to confirm it is truth,
before believing it.

i.e. TEST everything by GOD'S WORD, before believing it.
Everything TRUE , does not violate any SCRIPTURE. (and there are many Scriptures granted by GOD
to confirm what is true, whether a message, a doctrine, or a person.

 

[Thedictator]

Ah, a "The Bible is the 4th person of the Trinity" argument. Haven't seen one of those in a while.

No

 

[SpiritRehab]

What are you trying to learn from your silly question?

 

[Armoured]

No, Interpretations are of man, Truth is of God. 2 Peter 1:20-21

Given that we're all of us human, not God, interpretation is kind of all we have to work with...

 

[Armoured]

No

If you say so. Sure looked that way to me.

 

[stuart lawrence]

Ah, a "The Bible is the 4th person of the Trinity" argument. Haven't seen one of those in a while.

Someone on another website once said:
Some have a Trinity of Father, Son and the bible