Anything new in these debates?

[AV1611VET]

The cross of St George ...

What's a "saint"?

 

[AV1611VET]

Oh, my, Mr. Stamp!

Looky here:

Saint George, according to legend, was a Roman soldier of Syrian origin and officer in the Guard of Roman emperor Diocletian, who ordered his death for failing to recant his Christian faith. As a Christian martyr, he later became one of the most venerated saints in Christianity and in particular the Crusades.

SOURCE

Do you still want to stick to this:

Apart from passing churches and cathedrals you could go a whole year in the UK and never see a thing to do with religion.

 

[The Stamp]

Do you still want to stick to this:

Come and see for yourself.
In the spring and throughout the summer all the pretty churches are used for weddings and it's lovely, bells are ringing and it's picture postcard perfect with hardly a professing Christian in sight, people pay lip service to religion but no one really believes it.

 

[AV1611VET]

Come and see for yourself.
In the spring and throughout the summer all the pretty churches are used for weddings and it's lovely, bells are ringing and it's picture postcard perfect with hardly a professing Christian in sight, people pay lip service to religion but no one really believes it.

Is that invitation and paragraph a YES or a NO?

 

[The Stamp]

Is that invitation and paragraph a YES or a NO?

YES.

 

[The Stamp]

What's a "saint"?

A saint is a person the church holds up as someone who did something special (in their eyes) but we all know about Mother Teresa who was a truly wicked misguided woman.

 

[AV1611VET]

YES.

Then I submit you have a serious problem with denial.

Even scientists, with their satanic definitions of "martyr" and "religion" and "faith," recognize religious iconography when they see it.

And although the Bible burns their hands and minds, and although they ... as the Bible puts it ... "sell their souls to do evil," they will admit that religious stuff is all around them.

I often think of the scene in the movie Pumpkinhead, where the demon of vengeance is chasing these people, who run through a burned-out church.

Pumpkinhead laboriously steps through the church ... painfully ... then pauses to kick a wooden cross out of the way.

Getting a scientist to walk through the halls of a church is just like that.

Holy ground is painful to them.

But at least they know a cross when they see one.

 

[AV1611VET]

A saint is a person the church holds up as someone who did something special (in their eyes) but we all know about Mother Teresa who was a truly wicked misguided woman.

Okay.

 

[The Stamp]

But at least they know a cross when they see one.

Why would Christians want to bow down to the symbol that caused so much pain to their God? tens of thousand of people were crucified so it was nothing unusual in Roman times. The swastika was a symbol of well being before the Nazi's took it and turned it into a symbol of hate and death.

 

[46AND2]

Hi.

I used to visit these forums frequently years ago. I was a Christian back then, no religious beliefs now. I see that AV is still doing his [insert] challenge, (I think the first one was the "My Apple Challenge"), I see Loudmouth and Wiccan Child are still here.

To the old-school heads: aren't you bored yet? It's pretty likely that after a certain amount of time, you're probably not going to change your minds. What keeps you coming back to Crevo?
Anyway...it was nice to see some old names are still around.

Peeking in after several months away...it appears to me it's all the same arguments worded differently, except where they are worded identically.

 

[AV1611VET]

Why would Christians want to bow down to the symbol that caused so much pain to their God?

As the song says, I'll exchange it some day for a crown.

 

[lesliedellow]

Why would Christians want to bow down to the symbol that caused so much pain to their God? tens of thousand of people were crucified so it was nothing unusual in Roman times.

Resurrection was somewhat less common.