National Go Topless Day

[Darkhorse]

Maybe, over time, this perception can be changed. But that seems like a lot of effort expended for, at least in my opinion, a trivial cause. I think there are more important matters in the world. War, famine, the sex trafficking of children, just to name a few.

Those (and other) matters are vitally important, but the effort involved in normalizing female breasts is minimal. Just stop stigmatizing women who choose to leave them uncovered.

When I was younger, breastfeeding moms didn't cover their chests. They either went somewhere out of sight, or pulled up their blouse and continued what they were doing.

Now, in the Age of inappropriate contentography, it's considered indecent by too many people.

 

[Archivist]

I agree with you that laws can change. I also agree that the way breasts are portrayed in the media is overly sensationalized, in regards to things like "wardrobe malfunctions" and nursing in public. But the perception of breasts as almost unequivocally sexual, in this culture, is deeply ingrained. The law about men wearing tops had more to do about propriety, than deeply-ingrained sexual perceptions. Getting to a point where seeing exposed breasts is commonplace, and no one would bat an eye, would be extremely challenging considering that inappropriate contentography is so ubiquitous. And inappropriate content only portrays breasts one way - in the prurient interest.

Maybe, over time, this perception can be changed. But that seems like a lot of effort expended for, at least in my opinion, a trivial cause. I think there are more important matters in the world. War, famine, the sex trafficking of children, just to name a few.

What effort? Just make it legal for women to go topless anyplace that men can go topless. Stop hauling women off to jail for doing what men commonly do. Eventually it will become the norm.

 

[Poppyseed78]

Those (and other) matters are vitally important, but the effort involved in normalizing female breasts is minimal. Just stop stigmatizing women who choose to leave them uncovered.

When I was younger, breastfeeding moms didn't cover their chests. They either went somewhere out of sight, or pulled up their blouse and continued what they were doing.

Now, in the Age of inappropriate contentography, it's considered indecent by too many people.

Personally, I don't mind if women choose to nurse in public fully exposed, or bare their breasts as a fashion statement. I wouldn't do it myself...but that's just how I choose to present myself.

"Just stop stigmatizing women who choose to leave them uncovered" is a tall order, for the broader population. Maybe that would happen in time....

What effort? Just make it legal for women to go topless anyplace that men can go topless. Stop hauling women off to jail for doing what men commonly do. Eventually it will become the norm.

To what end? What is the benefit of women walking around topless? I guess I'm not really seeing the point. What exactly are you fighting for? Just for women to have the freedom to do it without legal repercussions?

 

[Archivist]

To what end? What is the benefit of women walking around topless? I guess I'm not really seeing the point. What exactly are you fighting for? Just for women to have the freedom to do it without legal repercussions?

What is the benefit of men walking around topless, but we permit them to do it. It all comes down to equal rights, something that I don't have a problem with.

It is currently legal for women to go topless in the State of New York anyplace that men can go topless. Have we had riots in the streets because of this? Has society in New York state collapsed? No, life has gone on pretty much as it did before women had this right, except now if a woman wants to sun herself without getting upper body tan lines she can do so.

 

[Poppyseed78]

What is the benefit of men walking around topless, but we permit them to do it. It all comes down to equal rights, something that I don't have a problem with.

It is currently legal for women to go topless in the State of New York anyplace that men can go topless. Have we had riots in the streets because of this? Has society in New York state collapsed? No, life has gone on pretty much as it did before women had this right, except now if I woman wants to sun herself without getting upper body tan lines she can do so.

Truly, I don't have a horse in this race. I don't care much. If women want to sunbathe topless, fine by me; do their grocery shopping, pick up takeout, drop books off at the library - all topless, fine by me lol. Whatever.

I will say this - breast tissue is actually more sensitive than other body areas, like a shoulder or arm. I got elbowed in the breast in high school while standing in the lunch line, and the injury became a painful cyst that needed to be drained. So for me personally, I'd rather keep breasts covered up, and I'd always recommend other women do so, to avoid injury.

 

[Archivist]

Truly, I don't have a horse in this race. I don't care much. If women want to sunbathe topless, fine by me; do their grocery shopping, pick up takeout, drop books off at the library - all topless, fine by me lol. Whatever.

I will say this - breast tissue is actually more sensitive than other body areas, like a shoulder or arm. I got elbowed in the breast in high school while standing in the lunch line, and the injury became a painful cyst that needed to be drained. So for me personally, I'd rather keep breasts covered up, and I'd always recommend other women do so, to avoid injury.

And if women don't want to go topless for that reason that's fine. They just shouldn't be fined or hauled off to jail for doing so.

My guess is that if it were made legal nationwide relatively few women would do so, at least initially. But at least they would have the right to do so.

BTW, my girlfriend has the opposite view from yours. She and I visit St. Martin from time to time, and she enjoys taking her top off on the beaches and getting a tan without upper body tan lines. We also hit the nude beach while we are there, but that is a story for a different thread.

 

[Darkhorse]

BTW, my girlfriend has the opposite view from yours. She and I visit St. Martin from time to time, and she enjoys taking her top off on the beaches and getting a tan without upper body tan lines. We also hit the nude beach while we are there, but that is a story for a different thread.

My wife likes bare breasts also, more for comfort than for tanning. The hot, humid climate in the south makes less clothing more comfortable.

 

[Poppyseed78]

Having tan lines is the last thing I worry about lol. To each their own.

 

[Sammy-San]

And the Song of Solomon describes a women's feet, thighs, navel, belly, neck and eyes in a sexual way. Should we not allow women to expose any of those in public?

http://www.loughbrickland.org/articles/modesty.shtml

The breasts are referred to in the context of a husband's faithfulness to his wife, “Let her be as the loving hind and pleasant roe; let her breasts satisfy thee at all times; and be thou ravished always with her love" (Proverbs 5:19). The exposure of the breast is envisaged as only legitimate between husband and wife, otherwise they are to be covered in the presence of men. We may safely conclude that a woman’s body from the breast to the thighs is intended under all normal circumstances to be completely covered in the presence of men except for her husband if she is married.

 

[Cimorene]

If it finally gets hot here I think I'm going to just run out in my bday suit, lol. Ok just kidding but I am so ready for sun on my skin.

 

[Archivist]

http://www.loughbrickland.org/articles/modesty.shtml

And the pastor who delivered this address is entitled to his/her opinion.

 

[Sammy-San]

And the pastor who delivered this address is entitled to his/her opinion.

Why do you disagree with it?

 

[Archivist]

Why do you disagree with it?

Because I see nothing wrong with women going topless where men can go topless. Remember, the US is a secular nation. The fact that some people have religious objection to women going topless is no reason to make it illegal for them to do so.

 

[Sammy-San]

Because I see nothing wrong with women going topless where men can go topless. Remember, the US is a secular nation. The fact that some people have religious objection to women going topless is no reason to make it illegal for them to do so.

The truth is that there are many beautiful and attractive things about women that have nothing to do with immodesty.

 

[Archivist]

The truth is that there are many beautiful and attractive things about women that have nothing to do with immodesty.

Is it immodest for men to go topless?

 

[Sammy-San]

Is it immodest for men to go topless?

I don't know. If it is, I don't know if it's as wrong as for a woman to dress publicly that way.

 

[Archivist]

I don't know. If it is, I don't know if it's as wrong as for a woman to dress publicly that way.

I don't think it is wrong for either sex to go topless where appropriate.

 

[Sammy-San]

I don't think it is wrong for either sex to go topless where appropriate.

Men being topless, regardless of what people say on it, is not the same as women being topless.

Breasts are more than mammary glands. they are soft, curvaceous, sensual parts. They are to be kept private except for between a husband and wife.

 

[Archivist]

Men being topless, regardless of what people say on it, is not the same as women being topless. Breasts are more than mammary glands. they are soft, curvaceous, sensual parts. They are to be kept private except for between a husband and wife.

Evidence that female breasts are to be kept private except between a husband and wife?

 

[Sammy-San]

Evidence that female breasts are to be kept private except between a husband and wife?

Do you believe in the Bible?