Number of planets in the universe
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Odd's of evolution happenning.
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10 ^ 50
Odd's of evolution happenning.
1 in 10 ^ 2 825 000
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Mathematicians PROVE evolution IMPOSSIBLE.
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Nevertheless: functional coherence makes accidental invention fantastically improbable and therefore physically impossible. Douglas Axe 2016
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Think of the complexity of creatures, especially humans and the human mind, wow, it's unthinkable how could chance gave rise to everything.
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Just a head's up here: the Second Law of Thermodynamics does not make evolution impossible. If it did, it would also make babies, waterfalls and hurricanes impossible. Anyone who tells you that it does, knows too little about physics to be worth listening to on the subject.
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Numbers don't lie, but people lie with numbers all the time. That video is lying with numbers. It calculates the probability of all the proteins in a modern organism spontaneously assembling themselves entirely at random. Well, yeah, that probability is really, really small -- which is probably why no scientist proposes that anything of the sort really happened. The actual probability of life arising spontaneously is something we simply cannot calculate today: humans just don't know enough about chemistry to figure out whether it's possible or not.
(As for understanding science, my scientific credentials are a heck of a lot better than the guys making these videos.)
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Do you have a substantive argument to make, or is being insulting your only tool for persuading other Christians of the truth of your position?
(ETA: Oh, and I've gotten my money back many times over -- I've been a working scientist earning a paycheck for several decades now.)
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I am serious too. The video is lying. I'm not sure what dealing with God has to do with that fact. Do you think I'd be more godly if I ignored the falsehoods? Take a really simple one: the claim that any probability less than 1/10^50 is so small that an event with that probability will never occur. If you pick up a deck of 52 cards and shuffle it, the probability that you'll get any particular arrangement of cards is well over a quadrillion times smaller than that number -- and yet such an event happens every time you shuffle a deck.
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