Where in Revelation is a Rapture Mentioned?

[Riberra]

If the angels need to eat manna daily for their subsistence ...do we will have to eat also when we will receive our resurrected body in Heaven?

When we will receive our resurrected body we will live on the Earth not in Heaven.And yes we will need to eat of the Tree of Life for our subsistence as mentioned in Revelation 22.

Revelation 22:1-2
1 And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.

2 In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.

Do you notice that even after the fall of Adam an Eve they could have live eternally if they had access to the tree of LIFE.
Genesis 3:22-24
22 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever: 23 Therefore the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken.

24 So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.

 

[2X4]

When we will receive our resurrected body we will live on the Earth not in Heaven.And yes we will need to eat of the Tree of Life for our subsistence as mentioned in Revelation 22.


Revelation 22:1-2
22 And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.

2 In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.

Do you notice that even after the fall of Adam an Eve they could have live eternally if they had access to the three of LIFE.
Genesis:3

He can't understand what the Spirit of MAN is that was created in the image of GOD. Unspiritual men don't know that MAN and GOD are ONE ( Spiritual Kingdom ).

 

[keras]

As a proponent of Replacement theology I really do not think you have the ability to make such a charge. Replacement Theology is the "Scourge" of Christian theology.

It is difficult to converse with someone who makes no attempt to really understand my actual stance.
I don't espouse 'replacement of Israel', but we Christians are now joined with ethnic Israel, [Messianic Jews] in lieu of the branches broken off, exactly as Paul says in Romans 11:13-24.
This truth is the 'scourge of the rapture theory', as it destroys it's main tenet: Church whisked to heaven and Israel stuck on earth to face the GT.

More homework for you: Read very carefully and slowly Romans 8:14-17 Report back what that passage means to us Christians.
And if you have any scriptures that you think prove a rapture, post them, I enjoy correcting wrong interpretations.

 

[Major1]

It is difficult to converse with someone who makes no attempt to really understand my actual stance.
I don't espouse 'replacement of Israel', but we Christians are now joined with ethnic Israel, [Messianic Jews] in lieu of the branches broken off, exactly as Paul says in Romans 11:13-24.
This truth is the 'scourge of the rapture theory', as it destroys it's main tenet: Church whisked to heaven and Israel stuck on earth to face the GT.

More homework for you: Read very carefully and slowly Romans 8:14-17 Report back what that passage means to us Christians.
And if you have any scriptures that you think prove a rapture, post them, I enjoy correcting wrong interpretations.

YOU are absolutely correct and that is exactly why I left off speaking to you on the other thread.

Your exegesis of Scripture is actually depressing to me and the false teachings you are espousing are disturbing. I really do not care whether you believe the Rapture or not. What I do care about is your "better than everyone else" attitude which is nothing more than the sin of Pride and selfism.

The attitude of your ELITISM thinking is simply unacceptable to me and you have proven that you are not a teachable person.

I do not like using the "Ignore" option but instead I would ask you to simply not respond to me and we can go on in peace and harmony.

Good day!

 

[Major1]

He can't understand what the Spirit of MAN is that was created in the image of GOD. Unspiritual men don't know that MAN and GOD are ONE ( Spiritual Kingdom ).

This is a Christian forum site. I would encourage you to begin speaking to others as if you are a Christian instead of personal comments of anyone's spirituality.

Ephesians 4:29-32 ...........
"Let no corrupting talk come out of your mouths, but only such as is good for building up, as fits the occasion, that it may give grace to those who hear. And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you were sealed for the day of redemption. Let all bitterness and wrath and anger and clamor and slander be put away from you, along with all malice. Be kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, as God in Christ forgave you."

 

[Major1]

When we will receive our resurrected body we will live on the Earth not in Heaven.And yes we will need to eat of the Tree of Life for our subsistence as mentioned in Revelation 22.

Revelation 22:1-2
1 And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.

2 In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.

Do you notice that even after the fall of Adam an Eve they could have live eternally if they had access to the tree of LIFE.
Genesis 3:22-24
22 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever: 23 Therefore the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken.

24 So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.

Do you see how wrong your comments are??????

YOU said that we will live on the earth as heaven will be on the earth........
"we will live on the Earth not in Heaven".

Now in Rev. 22 we see that the Tree will be in heaven where God is.........
" And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb. In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations."

YOU said we will eat of that tree. HOW can that happen in we are on the earth and the tree is in heaven by the throne of God?????

Now, secondly.........where in those verses do you see us EATING anything from that tree?????

You said.......
"yes we will need to eat of the Tree of Life for our subsistence as mentioned in Revelation 22."

So then........where are the Scriptures that actually say that "We will EAT of that Tree".
And.............How will that happen if we are on the earth and the tree is in heaven????

 

[Riberra]

Do you see how wrong your comments are??????

YOU said that we will live on the earth as heaven will be on the earth........
"we will live on the Earth not in Heaven".

Now in Rev. 22 we see that the Tree will be in heaven where God is.........
" And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb. In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations."

YOU said we will eat of that tree. HOW can that happen in we are on the earth and the tree is in heaven by the throne of God?????

Now, secondly.........where in those verses do you see us EATING anything from that tree?????

You said.......
"yes we will need to eat of the Tree of Life for our subsistence as mentioned in Revelation 22."

So then........where are the Scriptures that actually say that "We will EAT of that Tree".
And.............How will that happen if we are on the earth and the tree is in heaven????

Have you ever read Revelation 21 who precede Revelation 22 ?
In Revelation 21 we are told that the City of God -NEW Jerusalem will DESCEND- on the New Earth after the Great White Throne Judgment.
It is clear that Revelation 21 and Revelation 22 tell us that God will live on the New Earth with us.That is Heaven who will come down to Earth not us who will ascend to Heaven in our resurrected body.
Another clue is given in Revelation 3:12
Revelation 3
12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.



The TREE OF LIFE WAS IN THE GARDEN OF EDEN and is also present in the City of God who will come down on the NEW EARTH.

The Bible is clear in Genesis 3:22-24 that the access to the tree of Life AND EAT of[its fruits] provide eternal life....

Genesis 3:22-24
22 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the TREE OF LIFE , AND EAT and live for ever:

There is of course a symbolism behind that knowing that Jesus IS the Tree of Life.

God have made humans in the image of the angels,that likenesses may be more like them than we can imagine.

-We know that MANNA is Angel's foods .
-Human can feed on Manna [during the exodus]
-Angel can eat our foods....

Angels have access to the TREE OF LIFE in the City of God which is actually in Heaven.One day the City of God who actually is in Heaven will descend on the New earth and we will have access to the tree of life ...

 

[Major1]

Have you ever read Revelation 21 who precede Revelation 22 ?
In Revelation 21 we are told that the City of God -NEW Jerusalem will DESCEND- on the New Earth after the Great White Throne Judgment.
It is clear that Revelation 21 and Revelation 22 tell us that God will live on the New Earth with us.That is Heaven who will come down to Earth not us who will ascend to Heaven in our resurrected body.
Another clue is given in Revelation 3:12
Revelation 3
12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.



The TREE OF LIFE WAS IN THE GARDEN OF EDEN and is also present in the City of God who will come down on the NEW EARTH.

The Bible is clear in Genesis 3:22-24 that the access to the tree of Life AND EAT of[its fruits] provide eternal life....

Genesis 3:22-24
22 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the TREE OF LIFE , AND EAT and live for ever:

There is of course a symbolism behind that knowing that Jesus IS the Tree of Life.

God have made humans in the image of the angels,that likenesses may be more like them than we can imagine.

-We know that MANNA is Angel's foods .
-Human can feed on Manna [during the exodus]
-Angel can eat our foods....

Angels have access to the TREE OF LIFE in the City of God which is actually in Heaven.One day the City of God who actually is in Heaven will descend on the New earth and we will have access to the tree of life ...

YOU were proven wrong and now you are trying to rationalize your erroneous teaching.

YOU said we eat from the Tree of Life but it is in heaven!!!

YOU said we will be on the earth. We can not what we have NO access to!!!!!

Now you are changing your own comments once again.

YOU are adding to the Word of God because no where does Revelation which YOU quoted say that we will EAT from that tree. That is your opinion and only your opinion.

Again(3rd time)........Angel food does not mean that angels ate it. It means that they ministered with it to those in the wilderness.

And your quote of Genesis 3:22-24 does not apply. The words there actually say...................
"Lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the TREE OF LIFE , AND EAT and live for ever".

Lest means......."Must NOT be allowed to".

And did I read Rev. 21 before reading 22??? Of course not. Does anybody ever do that.


Honestly brother, are all of your theological suppositions so far from Biblical truth?

 

[Riberra]

YOU were proven wrong and now you are trying to rationalize your erroneous teaching.

YOU said we eat from the Tree of Life but it is in heaven!!!
YOU said we will be on the earth. We can not what we have NO access to!!!!!

The Bible in Revelation 21 and Revelation 22 tell us that HEAVEN will descend on the New Earth after the Great White Throne Judgment and that God will live with US on the New Earth ... Do You deny that ?
Revelation 21
21 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.

3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.

4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.

5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.

6 And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.

7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.

Revelation 22:14
14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life and may enter in through the gates into the city.

Now you are changing your own comments once again.

YOU are adding to the Word of God because no where does Revelation which YOU quoted say that we will EAT from that tree. That is your opinion and only your opinion.

Again(3rd time)........Angel food does not mean that angels ate it. It means that they ministered with it to those in the wilderness.

And your quote of Genesis 3:22-24 does not apply. The words there actually say...................
"Lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the TREE OF LIFE , AND EAT and live for ever".

Lest means......."Must NOT be allowed to".

That explain why Adam and Eve finally died ....the access to the Tree of Life who was in the Garden of Eden at the time was refused.
Genesis 3:22
22 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us], to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever

Desobedience to God command [sin]=
Cutting the access to the tree of life =death
Genesis 3:24
24 So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.

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Restoration at the End On THE NEW EARTH[access to the tree of Life on the New Earth after the resurrection for those who keep GOD's commandments and believe in Jesus.
Revelation 22:14
14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life and may enter in through the gates into the city.

And did I read Rev. 21 before reading 22??? Of course not. Does anybody ever do that.


Honestly brother, are all of your theological suppositions so far from Biblical truth?

Are you really saying that you have never read Revelation 21 before reading Revelation 22 ,that you only pic and chose verses and chapters randomly?

 

[Riberra]

double post

 

[Major1]

The Bible in Revelation 21 and Revelation 22 tell us that HEAVEN will descend on the New Earth after the Great White Throne Judgment and that God will live with US on the New Earth ... Do You deny that ?
Revelation 21
21 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.

3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.

4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.

5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.

6 And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.

7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.

Revelation 22:14
14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life and may enter in through the gates into the city.



That explain why Adam and Eve finally died ....the access to the tree of Life who was in the Garden of Eden at the time was refused.

Desobedience to god command
Cutting the access to the tree of life =death
Genesis 3
24 So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.

Restoration at the End for those who keep GOD's commandments
Revelation 22:14
14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life and may enter in through the gates into the city.


Are you really saying that you have never read Revelation 21 before reading Revelation 22 ,that you only pic and chose verses and chapters randomly?

You said..........
"Are you really saying that you have never read Revelation 21 before reading Revelation 22 ,that you only pic and chose verses and chapters randomly?"

Do you understand the word "SARCASM"??????

Your original question asking me if I had read that chapter 1st was so silly I could only answer sarcastically.

FIRST is the GWTJ.

The Great White Throne Judgment is in Rev. 20:11..............
"Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. The earth and the heavens fled from his presence, and there was no place for them."

Then there comes a New Heaven and New Earth in Rev. 21:1...........
"Then I saw “a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea."

The word "THEN" tells us grammatically that something has just taken place.

Next comes Rev. 21:2........
"I saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband."

The New Jerusalem is where believers will live and it is the home of the church.

Now you just said..........
"HEAVEN will descend on the New Earth after the Great White Throne Judgment and that God will live with US on the New Earth ... Do You deny that ?"

As you can see, The Great White Throne Judgment will take place in Rev. 20:11..........THEN a New Heaven and Earth in Rev. 21:1 and THEN the Holy City comes down from heaven on Rev. 21:2.

As for Adam and Eve, they died spiritually the second they ate the fruit. They lived another 960 years physically.

 

[Riberra]

FIRST is the GWTJ.

The Great White Throne Judgment is in Rev. 20:11..............
"Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. The earth and the heavens fled from his presence, and there was no place for them."

Then there comes a New Heaven and New Earth in Rev. 21:1...........
"Then I saw “a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea."

The word "THEN" tells us grammatically that something has just taken place.

Next comes Rev. 21:2........
"I saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband."

The New Jerusalem is where believers will live and it is the home of the church.

As you can now see, YES, the Bible denies what you stated. The Great White Throne Judgment will take place in Rev. 20:11..........THEN a New Heaven and Earth in Rev. 21:1 and THEN the Holy City comes down from heaven on Rev. 21:2.

Now you just said..........
"HEAVEN will descend on the New Earth after the Great White Throne Judgment and that God will live with US on the New Earth ... Do You deny that ?"

That is funny that you have made a long dissertation to finally confirming what i have written.
We will live with God on the New Earth in our Resurrected body AFTER the Great White Throne Judgment who is described in Revelation 20:11

The Heavenly City of God where God reside will descend to the New Earth that mean that Heaven will be on the New Earth AFTER the Great White Throne Judgment....think about it !Revelation 21:1-2

As for Adam and Eve, they died spiritually the second they ate the fruit. They lived another 960 years physically.

They died physically after 960 years because the access to the tree of life was refused to them Genesis 3:22-24

 

[keras]

Your exegesis of Scripture is actually depressing to me and the false teachings you are espousing are disturbing. I really do not care whether you believe the Rapture or not. What I do care about is your "better than everyone else" attitude which is nothing more than the sin of Pride and selfism.

What I post is what the Bible actually says. You don't like it because the truth conflicts with your false rapture belief.
Members: be aware that several rapture exponents have found they simply have no ammunition to prove their case. That is what is depressing to them and to accuse those who post what God really does plan for His people, of pride and selfism, is just bad grace.

 

[Major1]

What I post is what the Bible actually says. You don't like it because the truth conflicts with your false rapture belief.
Members: be aware that several rapture exponents have found they simply have no ammunition to prove their case. That is what is depressing to them and to accuse those who post what God really does plan for His people, of pride and selfism, is just bad grace.

Not so. You make the Scriptures say what YOU want them to say my friend.

If you do not want to believe in the Biblical Rapture.....fine with me.

 

[Major1]

That is funny that you have made a long dissertation to finally confirming what i have written.
We will live with God on the New Earth in our Resurrected body AFTER the Great White Throne Judgment who is described in Revelation 20:11

The Heavenly City of God where God reside will descend to the New Earth that mean that Heaven will be on the New Earth AFTER the Great White Throne Judgment....think about it !Revelation 21:1-2


They died physically after 960 years because the access to the tree of life was refused to them Genesis 3:22-24

When Adam sinned, mankind became estranged from God and physical death entered the world. In this way, through one man, physical death entered the world according to Romans 5:12, 17, and through Adam, death now came to all men. If Adam had eaten from the Tree of Life after he sinned, he would have lived forever, but he would have lived in a state of eternal estrangement from God.

 

[Major1]

That is funny that you have made a long dissertation to finally confirming what i have written.
We will live with God on the New Earth in our Resurrected body AFTER the Great White Throne Judgment who is described in Revelation 20:11

The Heavenly City of God where God reside will descend to the New Earth that mean that Heaven will be on the New Earth AFTER the Great White Throne Judgment....think about it !Revelation 21:1-2


They died physically after 960 years because the access to the tree of life was refused to them Genesis 3:22-24

What is funny is that ............
YOU said we eat from the Tree of Life but it is in heaven!!!

YOU said we will be on the earth. We can not eat what we have NO access to!!!!!

YOU also said that we eat from that tree in heaven but the Bible does not say that at all.

You have not responded to that at all. Funny???

 

[Riberra]

What is funny is that ............
YOU said we eat from the Tree of Life but it is in heaven!!!
YOU said we will be on the earth. We can not eat what we have NO access to!!!!!

I said when we will receive our resurrected body [FUTURE Tense]... New Jerusalem and the tree of Life will be on the New Earth. I have even referenced Revelation 21 and Revelation 22 which prove my point.

The point being that that we will not ascend to Heaven when we will receive our resurrected body.

YOU also said that we eat from that tree in heaven but the Bible does not say that at all.

1-I said that ANGELS have access to the tree of life in Heaven...that explain why they can live forever.

2- Humans[those saved] will have to wait that New Jerusalem [and the tree of life] come DOWN to the NEW EARTH.

You must read what i wrote with more attention....that is the only way that you can avoid misquoting me.

Remember the whole point was if the ANGELS needed to EAT of the tree of life to live forever. Go back and verify my previous posts and you will be able to place our discussion in context.

 

[keras]

If you do not want to believe in the Biblical Rapture.....fine with me.

I believe all that the Bible says.
I would believe in a rapture to heaven if it was Written. It isn't, so I don't.

Not only is such a presumptuous notion nowhere to be found, we are told what the Lord does actually want us Christians to do in many prophesies.
It is not 'fine with me', that so many have been taken in by false teaching, I am greatly saddened and I pray that that all can overcome their wrong beliefs before it is too late and they may lose their faith in God when a rapture doesn't happen.

 

[Major1]

I believe all that the Bible says.
I would believe in a rapture to heaven if it was Written. It isn't, so I don't.

Not only is such a presumptuous notion nowhere to be found, we are told what the Lord does actually want us Christians to do in many prophesies.
It is not 'fine with me', that so many have been taken in by false teaching, I am greatly saddened and I pray that that all can overcome their wrong beliefs before it is too late and they may lose their faith in God when a rapture doesn't happen.

What you have just shared my friend is completely your own opinion.

Now please think this through before responding in a "same old attitude" kind of answer.

If a man believes in the Rapture as described in the Scriptures but then dies before the event, what has he lost by believing in such an event? He is saved and he goes to be with the Lord.

If a man believes in the Rapture as told to us in the Scriptures and the event does not happen and he goes through part of the Tribulation, what does it matter? He is a saved man and he knows that he is a child of God and he is safe in the arms of the Lord.

I am perplexed as to why you and others are so angry and argumentative over this subject. I am also concerned as to WHY you and others can not discuss this particular theological subject without becoming upset and making personal comments and accusations toward others who do not accept your opinions.

Personally, as I said, if you do not accept the Rapture teaching, fine with me. We disagree and move on to another subject. But YOU seem unable to do that and I have to ask WHY?

Titus 2:13 .........

"looking for the blessed hope and the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior, Christ Jesus".

 

[Major1]

I said when we will receive our resurrected body [FUTURE Tense]... New Jerusalem and the tree of Life will be on the New Earth. I have even referenced Revelation 21 and Revelation 22 which prove my point.

The point being that that we will not ascend to Heaven when we will receive our resurrected body.


1-I said that ANGELS have access to the tree of life in Heaven...that explain why they can live forever.

2- Humans[those saved] will have to wait that New Jerusalem [and the tree of life] come DOWN to the NEW EARTH.

You must read what i wrote with more attention....that is the only way that you can avoid misquoting me.

Remember the whole point was if the ANGELS needed to EAT of the tree of life to live forever. Go back and verify my previous posts and you will be able to place our discussion in context.

I disagree with your opinion now as a I have in the past because the Bible does not agree with you.

You said....
"The point being that that we will not ascend to Heaven when we will receive our resurrected body."

That is not Biblical. The Bible says in 1 Thess. 4:16-17.......
"For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord."

1 Corth. 15:51-54.........
"Behold, I tell you a mystery: We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed— in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. So when this corruptible has put on incorruption, and this mortal has put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written: “Death is swallowed up in victory.”

John 14:1-3.......
“Let not your heart be troubled; you believe in God, believe also in Me. In My Father’s house are many mansions; if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself; that where I am, there you may be also. "

Now we all have a choice. WECAN believe your stated opinions or we can believe the written Word of God. I for one will always choose the Word of God.
Is there something else you would like to discuss concerning the Bible?

Then you once again said..........
" I said that ANGELS have access to the tree of life in Heaven".

There is ZERO Scriptures to support your comment. There are NO Bible verses to be found that will confirm your opinion.

Now we are just going in circles. You post an opinion and I post the Scripture which disprove those opinions.
Is there some other Bible doctrine that you would care to discuss because we have beat this one to death and we are doing nothing but repeating ourselves.