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That puts the believer in a limbo state that was not even imagined back in the first century - being separated but not divorced.
I absolutely agree on that point.
Moses wrote NOTHING that God did not give him approval to write. That includes the statute on divorce. It was PROTECTION from the damage from those with hard hearts.
Statement: You can divorce for abuse.
I totally agree!!! In the Jewish culture, they beat men up to get them to sign their wife's divorce papers (get). It seems to me that the men in the Old Testament times were very aware of their family members (12 Tribes of Israel) and would beat them for abusing their wives, or expel them from the synagogs or out of the city gates. I think this tells us men to be men and actively try and prevent a man from beating his wife. And the Church should too. But, the hard part becomes that in most cases the wife is married to an unbeliever (or seems to be) and we need to protect these women and children but we also do not want to cause an unscriptual divorce. God says to love them and let God be the Advenger.
Statement: You can divorce but not remarry anyone else.
God divorced Israel (northern tribes) but NEVER Judah.
God finally divorced Judah when the rejected Moses' Prophet. Therefore, Heb 8:8-13 was fulfilled and Both Israel (2 Kings 17) and Judah have been divorced. Therefore Moses' covenant is now obsolete.
Well sir, at least your blunt about it. Please, if you have scriptures to refute, "Speak on."
Then who was the author of Hebrews writing to? Unbelievers?
98 you are correct. Heb. 3 and 4 warn us that those who vontinually have a heard heart will not enter heaven. This is a warning to Chrsitians
this is a warning to Christians not to harden our hearts in unbelief and not enter the promise land. For although Israel was promised to enter in, that generation did not. If we continue in sin and unbelief we also will not enter in the promised land of heaven.
Correct. Which means that some believers can and do harden their hearts.
Yes, but if a Christian continues in the sin of hardening their heart in sin and unforgiveness, they will be rejected and cast into the fire where the worm never dies. Again, this is a harsh warning to Christians to escape the judgement of doom.
True, but that is increasingly off topic; and a major point of contention with our Baptist and Presbyterian brothers who hold to once saved always saved.
Yes, but this is in the context of the Scripture you quoted. We have a new heart and a new spirit. And scripture says to love our neighbors. Hardening our hearts to divorce our spouse is no longer a valid excuse to put away a repentive spouse. Not saying you, but I hear way too many Christians quoting the hard heart as a valid excuse for divorce.
Oh, a good example for you is 1 Cor. 7:10. The woman divorced from her husband but Paul mentions reconcilliation as a means of action for her.
I notice you said a repentive spouse, but what about one who still is a believer but is hard of heart and unrepentant? My dad was a believer and understood the bible to say it was good and proper to beat his wife into "submission." In the name of "discipline" he would spank me with a belt until I was almost unconscious. One time he picked me up by the neck and thew me down the basement stairs. My mom left and divorced him when I was 6 to save both of our lives.
