To those who don't believe in eternal security...

[razzelflabben]

FWIW I reckon you are very fair and balanced. It's just that a couple of your posts were unclear. But maybe that was me. I'll check when I get back home.

I look forward to knowing which ones, I get in trouble for being "too wordy" and in the same post people will get after me for "not being clear enough" usually depends on what side they are on which argument I get.

 

[greenguzzi]

I look forward to knowing which ones, I get in trouble for being "too wordy" and in the same post people will get after me for "not being clear enough" usually depends on what side they are on which argument I get.

I tend to be too wordy also, especially IRL.
My wife points out that a few well chosen words are much clearer than many words.

Maybe you are not being clear precisely *because* you are too wordy. (I'm speaking to myself here.). [emoji6]


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[razzelflabben]

I tend to be too wordy also, especially IRL.
My wife points out that a few well chosen words are much clearer than many words.

Maybe you are not being clear precisely *because* you are too wordy. (I'm speaking to myself here.). [emoji6]


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not sure I can buy that given I used a few words and was told I didn't say what I did by someone who used many words instead.

 

[Wordkeeper]

Being regenerated is not a phase thing it's a mindset thing.

Human beings are addicted to acquiring earthly treasure. Money, sex, power, when worked for and achieved, give a high, a dopamine kick, so those who taste material success are driven to keep doing whatever gives them that high. The pleasure center in the brain rewards them with shots of the drug, so that they can not leave the activity that results in it.

When we realise that the pursuit of earthly success is futile, and decide to stop supporting it, and change to pursuing the acquiring of heavenly treasure, this is repentance, meta noia, a change of mindset. It naturally involves a change of loyalty: serving the world results in earthly payback, serving God in heavenly treasure.

The decision to serve God is the requirement for receiving grace. Serving God is not just giving up everything, going cold turkey, although it is the quickest way. For some people the phase shock could be too much. Fortunately, we can ask for terms of peace, extension of deadline. We can make friends with earthly wealth even as we are weaned away from its pursuit.

There, I listed two terms of peace that will please God, even as we transition from serving mammon to serving God: ask for forgiveness of, offer compensation for, damage caused in delayed compliance!

Pleasing God results in grace being given.

Grace is sufficient. For what? For the power of God to be manifested. The kingdom of God to arrive amongst the assembly. To convince people that God is with us. To confirm that the command can be obeyed. To follow God. That He is able. To carry us into a better land. Where the harvesting, payback, is of imperishable treasure.

Exodus 4
1Then Moses said, “What if they will not believe me or listen to what I say? For they may say, ‘The LORD has not appeared to you.’” 2The LORD said to him, “What is that in your hand?” And he said, “A staff.” 3Then He said, “Throw it on the ground.” So he threw it on the ground, and it became a serpent; and Moses fled from it. 4But the LORD said to Moses, “Stretch out your hand and grasp it by its tail”—so he stretched out his hand and caught it, and it became a staff in his hand— 5“that they may believe that the LORD, the God of their fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, has appeared to you.”

1 Corinthians 12
9And He has said to me, “My grace is sufficient for you, for power is perfected in weakness.” Most gladly, therefore, I will rather boast about my weaknesses, so that the power of Christ may dwell in me. 10Therefore I am well content with weaknesses, with insults, with distresses, with persecutions, with difficulties, for Christ’s sake; for when I am weak, then I am strong.

John 3
1Now there was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews; 2this man came to Jesus by night and said to Him, “Rabbi, we know that You have come from God as a teacher; for no one can do these signs that You do unless God is with him.”3Jesus answered and said to him, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God.”

Luke 11
20But if I am casting out demons by the power of God, then the Kingdom of God has arrived among you.

Judas partaking of the gift wasn't superficial:.

Luke 10
27Theseventy-two returned with joy and said, "Lord, even the demons submit to us in your name."

It's impossible to bring back to repentance those who have partaken of the heavenly gifts and still fall away.

 

[greenguzzi]

not sure I can buy that given I used a few words and was told I didn't say what I did by someone who used many words instead.

Sorry friend; I'm back at my home computer, and I'm here to tell you that you aren't using the QUOTE tags correctly. Your posts are a mess.
You and I are on the same side, however I'd find it difficult to use your own posts to support you.

 

[razzelflabben]

Being regenerated is not a phase thing it's a mindset thing.

Human beings are addicted to acquiring earthly treasure. Money, sex, power, when worked for and achieved, give a high, a dopamine kick, so those who taste material success are driven to keep doing whatever gives them that high. The pleasure center in the brain rewards them with shots of the drug, so that they can not leave the activity that results in it.

When we realise that the pursuit of earthly success is futile, and decide to stop supporting it, and change to pursuing the acquiring of heavenly treasure, this is repentance, meta noia, a change of mindset. It naturally involves a change of loyalty: serving the world results in earthly payback, serving God in heavenly treasure.

The decision to serve God is the requirement for receiving grace. Serving God is not just giving up everything, going cold turkey, although it is the quickest way. For some people the phase shock could be too much. Fortunately, we can ask for terms of peace, extension of deadline. We can make friends with earthly wealth even as we are weaned away from its pursuit.

There, I listed two terms of peace that will please God, even as we transition from serving mammon to serving God: ask for forgiveness of, offer compensation for, damage caused in delayed compliance!

Pleasing God results in grace being given.

Grace is sufficient. For what? For the power of God to be manifested. The kingdom of God to arrive amongst the assembly. To convince people that God is with us. To confirm that the command can be obeyed. To follow God. That He is able. To carry us into a better land. Where the harvesting, payback, is of imperishable treasure.

Exodus 4
1Then Moses said, “What if they will not believe me or listen to what I say? For they may say, ‘The LORD has not appeared to you.’” 2The LORD said to him, “What is that in your hand?” And he said, “A staff.” 3Then He said, “Throw it on the ground.” So he threw it on the ground, and it became a serpent; and Moses fled from it. 4But the LORD said to Moses, “Stretch out your hand and grasp it by its tail”—so he stretched out his hand and caught it, and it became a staff in his hand— 5“that they may believe that the LORD, the God of their fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, has appeared to you.”

1 Corinthians 12
9And He has said to me, “My grace is sufficient for you, for power is perfected in weakness.” Most gladly, therefore, I will rather boast about my weaknesses, so that the power of Christ may dwell in me. 10Therefore I am well content with weaknesses, with insults, with distresses, with persecutions, with difficulties, for Christ’s sake; for when I am weak, then I am strong.

John 3
1Now there was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews; 2this man came to Jesus by night and said to Him, “Rabbi, we know that You have come from God as a teacher; for no one can do these signs that You do unless God is with him.”3Jesus answered and said to him, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God.”

Luke 11
20But if I am casting out demons by the power of God, then the Kingdom of God has arrived among you.

Judas partaking of the gift wasn't superficial:.

Luke 10
27Theseventy-two returned with joy and said, "Lord, even the demons submit to us in your name."

It's impossible to bring back to repentance those who have partaken of the heavenly gifts and still fall away.

I'm not following what you are trying to say...how can someone return to something they never had? As to repentance, it is both a heart and mind condition in which one "turns away from" their sins...that is why it involves both the born again heart that lives in the power of the HS and the renewed mind that comes from living in and working out our salvation.

 

[razzelflabben]

Being regenerated is not a phase thing it's a mindset thing.

Human beings are addicted to acquiring earthly treasure. Money, sex, power, when worked for and achieved, give a high, a dopamine kick, so those who taste material success are driven to keep doing whatever gives them that high. The pleasure center in the brain rewards them with shots of the drug, so that they can not leave the activity that results in it.

When we realise that the pursuit of earthly success is futile, and decide to stop supporting it, and change to pursuing the acquiring of heavenly treasure, this is repentance, meta noia, a change of mindset. It naturally involves a change of loyalty: serving the world results in earthly payback, serving God in heavenly treasure.

The decision to serve God is the requirement for receiving grace. Serving God is not just giving up everything, going cold turkey, although it is the quickest way. For some people the phase shock could be too much. Fortunately, we can ask for terms of peace, extension of deadline. We can make friends with earthly wealth even as we are weaned away from its pursuit.

There, I listed two terms of peace that will please God, even as we transition from serving mammon to serving God: ask for forgiveness of, offer compensation for, damage caused in delayed compliance!

Pleasing God results in grace being given.

Grace is sufficient. For what? For the power of God to be manifested. The kingdom of God to arrive amongst the assembly. To convince people that God is with us. To confirm that the command can be obeyed. To follow God. That He is able. To carry us into a better land. Where the harvesting, payback, is of imperishable treasure.

Exodus 4
1Then Moses said, “What if they will not believe me or listen to what I say? For they may say, ‘The LORD has not appeared to you.’” 2The LORD said to him, “What is that in your hand?” And he said, “A staff.” 3Then He said, “Throw it on the ground.” So he threw it on the ground, and it became a serpent; and Moses fled from it. 4But the LORD said to Moses, “Stretch out your hand and grasp it by its tail”—so he stretched out his hand and caught it, and it became a staff in his hand— 5“that they may believe that the LORD, the God of their fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, has appeared to you.”

1 Corinthians 12
9And He has said to me, “My grace is sufficient for you, for power is perfected in weakness.” Most gladly, therefore, I will rather boast about my weaknesses, so that the power of Christ may dwell in me. 10Therefore I am well content with weaknesses, with insults, with distresses, with persecutions, with difficulties, for Christ’s sake; for when I am weak, then I am strong.

John 3
1Now there was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews; 2this man came to Jesus by night and said to Him, “Rabbi, we know that You have come from God as a teacher; for no one can do these signs that You do unless God is with him.”3Jesus answered and said to him, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God.”

Luke 11
20But if I am casting out demons by the power of God, then the Kingdom of God has arrived among you.

Judas partaking of the gift wasn't superficial:.

Luke 10
27Theseventy-two returned with joy and said, "Lord, even the demons submit to us in your name."

It's impossible to bring back to repentance those who have partaken of the heavenly gifts and still fall away.

I'm not following what you are trying to say...how can someone return to something they never had? As to repentance, it is both a heart and mind condition in which one "turns away from" their sins...that is why it involves both the born again heart that lives in the power of the HS and the renewed mind that comes from living in and working out our salvation.

 

[razzelflabben]

Being regenerated is not a phase thing it's a mindset thing.

Human beings are addicted to acquiring earthly treasure. Money, sex, power, when worked for and achieved, give a high, a dopamine kick, so those who taste material success are driven to keep doing whatever gives them that high. The pleasure center in the brain rewards them with shots of the drug, so that they can not leave the activity that results in it.

When we realise that the pursuit of earthly success is futile, and decide to stop supporting it, and change to pursuing the acquiring of heavenly treasure, this is repentance, meta noia, a change of mindset. It naturally involves a change of loyalty: serving the world results in earthly payback, serving God in heavenly treasure.

The decision to serve God is the requirement for receiving grace. Serving God is not just giving up everything, going cold turkey, although it is the quickest way. For some people the phase shock could be too much. Fortunately, we can ask for terms of peace, extension of deadline. We can make friends with earthly wealth even as we are weaned away from its pursuit.

There, I listed two terms of peace that will please God, even as we transition from serving mammon to serving God: ask for forgiveness of, offer compensation for, damage caused in delayed compliance!

Pleasing God results in grace being given.

Grace is sufficient. For what? For the power of God to be manifested. The kingdom of God to arrive amongst the assembly. To convince people that God is with us. To confirm that the command can be obeyed. To follow God. That He is able. To carry us into a better land. Where the harvesting, payback, is of imperishable treasure.

Exodus 4
1Then Moses said, “What if they will not believe me or listen to what I say? For they may say, ‘The LORD has not appeared to you.’” 2The LORD said to him, “What is that in your hand?” And he said, “A staff.” 3Then He said, “Throw it on the ground.” So he threw it on the ground, and it became a serpent; and Moses fled from it. 4But the LORD said to Moses, “Stretch out your hand and grasp it by its tail”—so he stretched out his hand and caught it, and it became a staff in his hand— 5“that they may believe that the LORD, the God of their fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, has appeared to you.”

1 Corinthians 12
9And He has said to me, “My grace is sufficient for you, for power is perfected in weakness.” Most gladly, therefore, I will rather boast about my weaknesses, so that the power of Christ may dwell in me. 10Therefore I am well content with weaknesses, with insults, with distresses, with persecutions, with difficulties, for Christ’s sake; for when I am weak, then I am strong.

John 3
1Now there was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews; 2this man came to Jesus by night and said to Him, “Rabbi, we know that You have come from God as a teacher; for no one can do these signs that You do unless God is with him.”3Jesus answered and said to him, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God.”

Luke 11
20But if I am casting out demons by the power of God, then the Kingdom of God has arrived among you.

Judas partaking of the gift wasn't superficial:.

Luke 10
27Theseventy-two returned with joy and said, "Lord, even the demons submit to us in your name."

It's impossible to bring back to repentance those who have partaken of the heavenly gifts and still fall away.

I'm not following what you are trying to say...how can someone return to something they never had? As to repentance, it is both a heart and mind condition in which one "turns away from" their sins...that is why it involves both the born again heart that lives in the power of the HS and the renewed mind that comes from living in and working out our salvation.

 

[razzelflabben]

Sorry friend; I'm back at my home computer, and I'm here to tell you that you aren't using the QUOTE tags correctly. Your posts are a mess.
You and I are on the same side, however I'd find it difficult to use your own posts to support you.

hmm...on my computer my posts show up as quote and then separated by my response...what does it show on your computer and what would the correct command be so that it shows up the same on both our computers. I know that the other poster in question doesn't do the same formatting as per what shows on my computer and just lumps it all together with bold as if to yell at me..I am also interested to know what about the study I presented makes you feel it is hard to use my posts to support my position? I need some specifics if I am going to be able to improve my posts...In fact, I just looked through the page and every post of mine shows up as the same format as yours do...curious...what would cause them to be different from one computer to the next when they are the same format on mine as yours are? I'm not the most computer literate so I really am curious.

 

[razzelflabben]

thought I would post this passage as per the question of partaking of Christ and what that means

Hebrews 3:14 (HCSB)For we have become companions of the Messiah if we hold firmly until the end the reality that we had at the start.

other translations use the word partakers of Christ...

 

[Wordkeeper]

I'm not following what you are trying to say...how can someone return to something they never had? As to repentance, it is both a heart and mind condition in which one "turns away from" their sins...that is why it involves both the born again heart that lives in the power of the HS and the renewed mind that comes from living in and working out our salvation.

Both Joshua and the rebels drank from the same Rock, but it was Joshua only who used his experiences of witnessing the finger of God, God's presence with Israel, His arriving in their midst, to reinforce his faith and not complain, or murmur, and OBEYED.

The difference between the tares and the persevering believers was that the latter were not shallow soil. They allowed the seed, the proof God gave of His ability, His faithfulness, through miraculous acts, through spectacular revelations, works and words, to take firm hold.

REMEMBER, both parties had equal opportunities. The successful party was the one that worked at OWNING the opportunities, making those opportunities have the maximum impact. If you waver, blow hot one day, cold the next, the affect of partnering with God will wither away.

The role of the Holy Spirit is not to transform by direct intervention (He doesn't give you a good scrub, clean out all the cobwebs, spring clean you) but by presenting the message and giving the ability to understand it.

Gosh, I hope you came out unscathed, through all those mixed metaphors!

 

[razzelflabben]

Both Joshua and the rebels drank from the same Rock, but it was Joshua only who used his experiences of witnessing the finger of God, God's presence with Israel, His arriving in their midst, to reinforce his faith and not complain, or murmur, and OBEYED.

The difference between the tares and the persevering believers was that the latter were not shallow soil. They allowed the seed to take firm hold.

REMEMBER, both parties had equal opportunities. The successful party was the one that worked at OWNING the opportunities, making those opportunities have the maximum impact. If you waver, blow hot one day, cold the next, the affect of partnering with God will wither away.

Gosh, I hope you came out unscathed, through all those mixed metaphors!

that wasn't the question...the question was how could someone return to something they never had in the first place.

For example, I can't go back and get another piece of cake if I didn't get one to start out with...I can go get a piece of cake but I can't get "another" one until I have gotten at least one. Thus how could I return to something (Heb. 6) if I never had it in the first place. The question isn't about wheat and tares, those are two different things wheat in the example are believers and tares are unbelievers (passages provided if necessary) but Heb. 6 says they cannot return to a state of repentance. Now unless you are suggesting that believers do not live in an unrepentant state which I would object strongly to, then the question is still unanswered.

 

[Wordkeeper]

that wasn't the question...the question was how could someone return to something they never had in the first place.

For example, I can't go back and get another piece of cake if I didn't get one to start out with...I can go get a piece of cake but I can't get "another" one until I have gotten at least one. Thus how could I return to something (Heb. 6) if I never had it in the first place. The question isn't about wheat and tares, those are two different things wheat in the example are believers and tares are unbelievers (passages provided if necessary) but Heb. 6 says they cannot return to a state of repentance. Now unless you are suggesting that believers do not live in an unrepentant state which I would object strongly to, then the question is still unanswered.

We know Israel was full of confidence: she left the relative safety of Egypt. Her fault was in wavering.

I don't think we can compare the situation of present day believers with the mixed group consisting of Israel and Joshua.

The gospel message isn't the same. Israel was asked to have faith, take a risk. Present day believers aren't asked to risk anything.

The God pleasing state that apostates are asked to return to isn't an option because it looks like they'll just do another flip flop...

 

[razzelflabben]

We know Israel was full of confidence: she left the relative safety of Egypt. Her fault was in wavering.

I don't think we can compare the situation of present day believers with the mixed group consisting of Israel and Joshua.

The gospel message isn't the same. Israel was asked to have faith, take a risk. Present day believers aren't asked to risk anything.

okay I am still trying to find your answer in the midst of all of this but I disagree...present day believers are told to be prepared for persecution (many are persecuted) they are told the days would be filled with trouble and that people would hate them because they hated Christ first...that does NOT sound like no risk to me. Please sight where you get the notion that there is no risk in following Christ today...in fact, Jesus Himself said to leave everything and follow. That is risk.

The God pleasing state that apostates are asked to return to isn't an option because it looks like they'll just do another flip flop...

again, that does NOT answer the question...what it looks like is not what scripture says but rather it says they cannot return because it would be to crucify Christ again. Christ wasn't crucified because of appearances.

 

[Wordkeeper]

okay I am still trying to find your answer in the midst of all of this but I disagree...present day believers are told to be prepared for persecution (many are persecuted) they are told the days would be filled with trouble and that people would hate them because they hated Christ first...that does NOT sound like no risk to me. Please sight where you get the notion that there is no risk in following Christ today...in fact, Jesus Himself said to leave everything and follow. That is risk.

Tell this to Luther's followers. They would accuse you of works salvation, legalism.

again, that does NOT answer the question...what it looks like is not what scripture says but rather it says they cannot return because it would be to crucify Christ again. Christ wasn't crucified because of appearances.

Hebrews 6
4For in the case of those who have once been enlightened and have tasted of the heavenly gift and have been made partakers of the Holy Spirit, 5and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, 6and then have fallen away, it is impossible to renew them again to repentance, since they again crucify to themselves the Son of God and put Him to open shame. 7For ground that drinks the rain which often falls on it and brings forth vegetation useful to those for whose sake it is also tilled, receives a blessing from God; 8but if it yields thorns and thistles, it is worthless and close to being cursed, and it ends up being burned.


If God goes out of his way to prove to you His dependability ( yes that's what He did when He deprived Israel of water them made it flow out of a rock, doing violence to natural phenomena) and you praise Him, then you lose faith the next time He tests you, what does that do to the respect, bouquets, you had previously offered to Him? It's reversed, you end up rubbing His face in the mud. Brick bats. Thorns and thistles.


Jesus said we had to pick up our cross daily and follow Him. What does this look like? Does it mean we are crucified everyday? Not literally.


It means we tell people that God is their master, and His requirement is not making gold or silver images to honor him, but to fulfill His purpose of making us in His image and all that it entails: having virtue, selflessness, being forgiving and long suffering. To confirm the truth of the message, that God really said it, and that it is true, we offer insightful revelation and supernatural acts. Rebellious men will accuse us of doing these things through beelzebub, and try to lynch us, but God will save us from their hands. This is what is meant , metaphorically, by picking up our cross every day. And being resurrected, every day.


Finally, if we request baptism for the dead, the proof that we will offer to the assembly will be to offer ourselves as sacrifices, tell them to destroy our temple and God will rebuild it in three days, pick up the real cross, literally, confident that God will resurrect us from the dead, the special resurrection, the better resurrection, the out resurrection, the ek anastasis, the resurrection reserved for martyrs, that will give life to the walking dead, that Paul so longed for.

 

[razzelflabben]

Tell this to Luther's followers. They would advise you of works salvation, legalism.

are you saying this because you are a Luther follower rather than a Christ follower? I was under the impression you were a follower of Christ.

Hebrews 6
4For in the case of those who have once been enlightened and have tasted of the heavenly gift and have been made partakers of the Holy Spirit, 5and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, 6and then have fallen away, it is impossible to renew them again to repentance, since they again crucify to themselves the Son of God and put Him to open shame. 7For ground that drinks the rain which often falls on it and brings forth vegetation useful to those for whose sake it is also tilled, receives a blessing from God; 8but if it yields thorns and thistles, it is worthless and close to being cursed, and it ends up being burned.


If God goes out of his way to prove to you His dependability ( yes that's what He did when He deprived Israel of water them made it flow out of a rock, doing violence to natural phenomena) and you praise Him, then you lose faith the next time He tests you, what does that do to the respect, bouquets, you had previously offered to Him? It's reversed, you end up rubbing His face in the mud. Brick bats. Thorns and thistles.


Jesus said we had to pick up our cross daily and follow Him. What does this look like? Does it mean we are crucified everyday? Not literally.

sort of, yes...every single day we lay aside the old man and determine to live in the new...but carry on, I'm still trying to figure out your answer and why you can't simply answer the question without all the extra stuff added on.

It means we tell people that God is their master, and His requirement is not making gold or silver images to honor him, but to fulfill His purpose of making us in His image and ask that it entails: having virtue, selflessness, being forgiving and long suffering. To confirm the truth of the message, that God really said it, and it is true, we offer insightful revelation and supernatural acts. Rebellious men will accuse us of doing these things through beelzebub, and try to lynch us but God will save us from their hands. This is what is meant , metaphorically, by picking up our cross every day.


Finally, if we request baptism for the dead, the proof that we will offer to the assembly will be to offer ourselves as sacrifices, tell them to destroy our temple and God will rebuild it in three days, pick up the real cross, literally, confident that God will resurrect us from the dead, the special resurrection, the better resurrection, the out resurrection, the ek anastasis, the resurrection reserved for martyrs, that will give life to the walking dead, that Paul so longed for.

so...let me see if I can make sense out of what you are saying as it applies to Heb. 6 and the question being asked...you believe that...no, I got nothing as it applies to the two...something about following Luther and sinning and crucifying self daily without crucifying self daily...I don't know, I guess I'm just so stupid I can't follow this long drawn out answer that doesn't seem to answer the question at all. I'm simple when it comes to Christ, I think God purposed to make it simple enough that everyone could understand.

 

[Wordkeeper]

are you saying this because you are a Luther follower rather than a Christ follower? I was under the impression you were a follower of Christ. sort of, yes...every single day we lay aside the old man and determine to live in the new...but carry on, I'm still trying to figure out your answer and why you can't simply answer the question without all the extra stuff added on.
so...let me see if I can make sense out of what you are saying as it applies to Heb. 6 and the question being asked...you believe that...no, I got nothing as it applies to the two...something about following Luther and sinning and crucifying self daily without crucifying self daily...I don't know, I guess I'm just so stupid I can't follow this long drawn out answer that doesn't seem to answer the question at all. I'm simple when it comes to Christ, I think God purposed to make it simple enough that everyone could understand.

You got angry the last time I suggested that our problem is of not being able to bear the burden on our own:

John 16
12“I have many more things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now. 13“But when He, the Spirit of truth, comes, He will guide you into all the truth; for He will not speak on His own initiative, but whatever He hears, He will speak; and He will disclose to you what is to come. 14“He will glorify Me, for He will take of Mine and will disclose it to you. 15“All things that the Father has are Mine; therefore I said that He takes of Mine and will disclose it to you.

 

[Citizen of the Kingdom]

The committing of our way must be a continuous, not a single act. There's nothing a Christian needs to be more scrutinizing about than about their confirmed habits and views.

 

[CodyFaith]

The committing of our way must be a continuous, not a single act. There's nothing a Christian needs to be more scrutinizing about than about their confirmed habits and views.

Scripture teaches the single act follows with good works and a continual following. First it's one, then the rest come with it.

The initial acts of seeking Christ then believing, then good works and a continued following.

 

[Citizen of the Kingdom]

Scripture teaches the single act follows with good works and a continual following. First it's one, then the rest come with it.

The initial acts of seeking Christ then believing, then good works and a continued following.

It's the Way, not the full stop because life is a daily living. Resting in convictions needs vigilance as well.