To whom and why God gave the Sabbaths?

[Cribstyl]

...The whole world is wicked. YHWH looked from heaven to see if ANYONE was seeking HIM. HE found no one.

Today do you know anyone (with a family) who honors YHWH'S SABBATH?.....

QUOTE= all that God decreed in the 7 days of creation still stands QUOTE

Seeking Him?? ..Or doing you mean sinless man???? Men began to call on God Gen 4:26

And Rom 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.


According to the scriptures God rested on the seventh because He was finished with all His work. God blessed and sanctified the seventh day, not the 8th, 14th,21st, 28th. In other words, the is no communication about any other days or for man to keep a Sabbath.
The weekly seventh day was first given to those who God freed from Egypt.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Today do you know anyone? (with a family) who honors YHWH'S SABBATH?.....

 

[Cribstyl]

We've all heard sermons and commentaries that the word "Remember" in Ex20:8 "Remember the Sabbath to keep it Holy..." points back to creation. Is that scripture??

Deu 5:4 The LORD talked with you face to face in the mount out of the midst of the fire,

Deu 5:5 (I stood between the LORD and you at that time, to shew you the word of the LORD: for ye were afraid by reason of the fire, and went not up into the mount saying, ....(THE WORDS OF THE COVENANT, THE TEN COMMANDMENTS Deu 5:2)
(Moses was the only human witness between God and the Children of Israel.
Moses said: When God talked with you face to face....I stood between you and God, to explain to you what He was saying to you...")

#4th commandment........
Deu 5:12 Keep the sabbath day to sanctify it, as the LORD thy God hath commanded thee.
Deu 5:12 explains that Ex20:8 is the commandment, and the word "remember" is part of a command that means continue to keep going forward. (not look back to creation)

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Deu 5:12 explains that Ex20:8 is the commandment, and the word "remember" is part of a command that means continue to keep going forward. (not look back to creation)

Someone else noted it means
remember Sabbath has been kept since the beginning; do not forget YHWH made one day set apart in the beginning: remember it.

So, you do not KNOW ANYONE? ANYONE ? Whose family observes YHWH'S SABBATH ?

 

[Cribstyl]

Someone else noted it means
remember Sabbath has been kept since the beginning; do not forget YHWH made one day set apart in the beginning: remember it.

So, you do not KNOW ANYONE? ANYONE ? Whose family observes YHWH'S SABBATH ?

Clue: Sabbath was first given when the bible say it was:
Exo 16:29 See, for that the LORD hath given you the sabbath, therefore he giveth you on the sixth day the bread of two days; abide ye every man in his place, let no man go out of his place on the seventh day.
Exo 16:30 So the people rested on the seventh day.

a)That's not what Moses wrote or said about the Sabbath as I posted in blue.

b)That's not what Jews teach about the Sabbath. http://www.jewfaq.org/shabbat.htm

c) God said that He gave it to the Children of Israel.
Eze 20:12Moreover also I gave them my sabbaths, to be a sign between me and them, that they might know that I am the LORD that sanctify them.

d) God explained to the Children of Israel before leaving Egypt, every ordinance that they would keep and also what the stranger who within their borders would keep. Passover, Circumcision but No Sabbath mention there. Ex 12
e)That's why Jesus explained to the Jews why circumcision was carried out if the 8th day after a male child's birth falls on the Sabbath. Jesus said: Circumcision was passed down from the fathers. (not Sabbath)

e) Do you really believe that if God commanded all humanity to keep the Sabbath from creation that He would fail and later have to give it as a covenant between Himself and one group of people?

Yes I know many socalled Sabbath keepers.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Yes I know many socalled Sabbath keepers.

COOL ! For those you know, OR for others you have found out about,
concerning their children --- >
Did they learn Sabbath Keeping while seeking YHWH ?
Or did they learn Sabbath Keeping from their parents ?
Or were they forced against their will to obey YHWH'S WORD ?
Or any combination of these (or other) ways to become Sabbath Keepers ?

 

[Cribstyl]

COOL ! For those you know, OR for others you have found out about,
concerning their children --- >
Did they learn Sabbath Keeping while seeking YHWH ?
Or did they learn Sabbath Keeping from their parents ?
Or were they forced against their will to obey YHWH'S WORD ?
Or any combination of these (or other) ways to become Sabbath Keepers ?

All of the above.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

All of the above.

COOL !
THANKS !

 

[1John2:4]

We've all heard sermons and commentaries that the word "Remember" in Ex20:8 "Remember the Sabbath to keep it Holy..." points back to creation. Is that scripture??

Deu 5:4 The LORD talked with you face to face in the mount out of the midst of the fire,

Deu 5:5 (I stood between the LORD and you at that time, to shew you the word of the LORD: for ye were afraid by reason of the fire, and went not up into the mount saying, ....(THE WORDS OF THE COVENANT, THE TEN COMMANDMENTS Deu 5:2)
(Moses was the only human witness between God and the Children of Israel.
Moses said: When God talked with you face to face....I stood between you and God, to explain to you what He was saying to you...")

#4th commandment........
Deu 5:12 Keep the sabbath day to sanctify it, as the LORD thy God hath commanded thee.
Deu 5:12 explains that Ex20:8 is the commandment, and the word "remember" is part of a command that means continue to keep going forward. (not look back to creation)

It looks like it points to creation, the first part is remember and the last part speaks of creation. God made it pretty clear.

8 “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9 Six days you shall labor and do all your work, 10 but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. 11 For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

It looks like it points to creation, the first part is remember and the last part speaks of creation. God made it pretty clear.

Verifying.
Do you mean,
does Scripture mean,
that BEFORE THE TORAH WAS GIVEN,

YHWH the CREATOR had something to DO WITH SABBATH ?

 

[1John2:4]

Verifying.
Do you mean,
does Scripture mean,
that BEFORE THE TORAH WAS GIVEN,

YHWH the CREATOR had something to DO WITH SABBATH ?

Sorry, I think I may have missed something in the discussion. I thought I was just replying to yes the 4th commandment does indeed point back to creation when it states remember

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Sorry, I think I may have missed something in the discussion. I thought I was just replying to yes the 4th commandment does indeed point back to creation when it states remember

Oh, don't be sorry - I agree and was re-"verifying"
what
YHWH has to do with SABBATH
and
that even IF "remember" means remember in the future without a link in that one word to the past -- there's plenty to show YHWH CREATED the 7th day SABBATH and said so
during/ CREATION/ the first 7 days.
( Something throughout SCRIPTURE about this ALSO verifies a 7 day creation with no chance of and no indication of any of the demonically inspired later evolution possibility.)

 

[JackRT]

On the question posed in the title of the OP as to "why God gave the Sabbaths" one can be left a little confused:

Exodus 20:8 Remember the Sabbath day by keeping it holy. 9 Six days you shall labour and do all your work, 10 but the seventh day is a Sabbath to the LORD your God. On it you shall not do any work, neither you, nor your son or daughter, nor your manservant or maidservant, nor your animals, nor the alien within your gates. 11 For in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, but he rested on the seventh day. Therefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy. (emphasis mine)

Deuteronomy 5:13 Six days you shall labour and do all your work, 14 but the seventh day is a Sabbath to the LORD your God. On it you shall not do any work, neither you, nor your son or daughter, nor your manservant or maidservant, nor your ox, your donkey or any of your animals, nor the alien within your gates, so that your manservant and maidservant may rest, as you do. 15 Remember that you were slaves in Egypt and that the LORD your God brought you out of there with a mighty hand and an outstretched arm. Therefore the LORD your God has commanded you to observe the Sabbath day. (emphasis mine)

There is actually a good reason for this discrepancy.

 

[Cribstyl]

It looks like it points to creation, the first part is remember and the last part speaks of creation. God made it pretty clear.

8 “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9 Six days you shall labor and do all your work, 10 but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. 11 For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.

Truthfully, in Ex 20:8 the word 'remember' has many variables, but in Deut 5 Moses explains that He was between the people and God when He commanded you to keep the Sabbath. When you understand the structure of the 4th commandment, you'd see God telling them what to keep, how to keep it and why to keep it.
(THE SABBATH COMMANDMENT)
8 “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.

(HOW TO KEEP THE SABBATH COMMANDMENT)
9 Six days you shall labor and do all your work, 10 but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates.

(WHY TO KEEP THE SABBATH COMMANDMENT)
11 For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.
Notice that when God tells you WHY to keep it, this is when He take you back to creation, not before. If you study some more your facts wont contradict other scriptures.
The ugly truth is that God's restated the Genesis 2:1-3 fact that He rested on the Seventh day. It your choice to say whether God rested on the 7th day or to say, that God kept Sabbath. The word THEREFORE means 'this is why'. So the Sabbath is also blessed and hallowed because God rested on the 7th day.
The scripture does not say remember the 7th day. So, Remember the Sabbath day could only take them back to manna.
Hopefully you'll rebut my arguments and not change the channel.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

COOL ! For those you know, OR for others you have found out about, concerning their children --- >
Did they learn Sabbath Keeping while seeking YHWH ?
Or did they learn Sabbath Keeping from their parents ?
Or were they forced against their will to obey YHWH'S WORD ?
Or any combination of these (or other) ways to become Sabbath Keepers ?

All of the above.

COOL !
THANKS !

Cribstyl, if you have children,
did you teach your children to observe YHWH'S set apart 7th day SABBATH that HE SAYS HE set apart on the 7th day of CREATION?

 

[BABerean2]

Cribstyl, if you have children,
did you teach your children to observe YHWH'S set apart 7th day SABBATH that HE SAYS HE set apart on the 7th day of CREATION?

Gal 4:24 Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar.
Gal 4:25 For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.


Gal 4:30 Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.
Gal 4:31 So then, brethren, we are not children of the bondwoman, but of the free.


Gal 5:1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.


Col 2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
Col 2:17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.


Heb 7:12 For when there is a change in the priesthood, there is necessarily a change in the law as well.


Heb 8:13 In speaking of a new covenant, he makes the first one obsolete. And what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.


.

 

[Cribstyl]

Cribstyl, if you have children,
did you teach your children to observe YHWH'S set apart 7th day SABBATH that HE SAYS HE set apart on the 7th day of CREATION?

You're not serious about the scriptures.... have a good day.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

You're not serious about the scriptures.... have a good day.

"Serious about the scriptures" ?
Who among us says NOT TO KEEP THE SCRIPTURES ?
Who among us teaches their children to honor YHWH'S WORD ?

 

[BABerean2]

"Serious about the scriptures" ?
Who among us says NOT TO KEEP THE SCRIPTURES ?
Who among us teaches their children to honor YHWH'S WORD ?

Who among us ignores the fact that there is a New Covenant that has made the Old Covenant "obsolete"?

It was foretold in Jeremiah 31:31-34 and is found fulfilled in Hebrews 8:6-13, Hebrews 7:12, Colossians 2:16-17.
.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Who among us ignores the fact that there is a New Covenant that has made the Old Covenant "obsolete"?

It was foretold in Jeremiah 31:31-34 and is found fulfilled in Hebrews 8:6-13, Hebrews 7:12, Colossians 2:16-17.
.

Who denies the TRUTH ?
My life depends on YHWH, on Y'SHUA, and YHWH'S WORD.
Without HIM I am nothing.
Whatever HE SAYS, "EVERY WORD THAT PROCEEDS FROM THE MOUTH OF YHWH" to live by.

Not man's traditions, or other things opposed to YHWH.