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How can the grace of God be resisted by some yet received by others?
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Skala
I'm a Saint. Not because of me, but because of Him
I completely agree with you.
But that's a very gracious thing of God to do.
That's all I'm trying to say
The whole thing is in the framework of grace. Grace is God being kind when he doesn't have to be. He didn't have to impute righteousness (and thus, salvation) to the OT patriarchs because of their faith. But HE GRACIOUSLY DID SO.
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Skala
I'm a Saint. Not because of me, but because of Him
You can't be a Calvinist without knowing Arminianism, because Calvinism is the response to, and refutation of, and antithesis of Arminianism.
I couldn't affirm TULIP if I didn't know what TULIP was in response to (the 5 points of Arminianism)
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Well the Bible disagree's with you because it shows that God is looking for faith and it is BY FAITH that we are saved as we accept god's free gift of salvation BY FAITH for the New Covenant and in the Old Covenant, righteousness was imputed to them THROUGH FAITH.I completely agree with you.
But that's a very gracious thing of God to do.
That's all I'm trying to say
The whole thing is in the framework of grace. Grace is God being kind when he doesn't have to be. He didn't have to impute righteousness (and thus, salvation) to the OT patriarchs because of their faith. But HE GRACIOUSLY DID SO.
So as you try to prove predestination, you are missing the FAITH that we need to have to accept the free gift.
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And Judas was one of the elected 12.
Luke 6:12-16 (ESV) states:
12 In these days he went out to the mountain to pray, and all night he continued in prayer to God. 13 And when day came, he called his disciples and chose from them twelve, whom he named apostles: 14 Simon, whom he named Peter, and Andrew his brother, and James and John, and Philip, and Bartholomew, 15 and Matthew, and Thomas, and James the son of Alphaeus, and Simon who was called the Zealot, 16 and Judas the son of James, and Judas Iscariot, who became a traitor.
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So are you placing the evil of killing Jesus - the innocent man - on the same level as God killing 6 million Jews in the Second World War gas chambers? Was it God who committed that evil or was it the Nazi regime?
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That wasn't even close to an answer to my question. We can't have a conversation if you ignore the question and just spout off random stuff that's unrelated.
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It's because of our sin.
Prepare to die in your sins, if you imagine that God accepts you or judges you based upon your works. You miss the mark. You're a dead man walking.
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