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Does not having a four year degree mean you are uneducated?

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Really? The company I used to work for has run a successful apprentice school for over 100 years.
Here's a list of apprenticeships available just in Las Vegas...
https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=apprenticeship las vegas

From the US Department of Labor
https://www.dol.gov/featured/apprenticeship

I am talking about family-owned businesses where the father teaches the sons the craft to pass on the family business.
 
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And if you really believe that...I would suggest that you haven't done much to educate yourself on facts.

Corporations own this country and they are hungry for college grads. And college grads are hungry for them and their "benefits". And the beat goes on.
 
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Corporations own this country and they are hungry for college grads. And college grads are hungry for them and their "benefits". And the beat goes on.

And every company I've worked for, with the exception of one had less than 50 employees.

But, I guess you'd like to see the demise of companies such as Microsoft, Cisco, Boeing, Lockheed Martin, etc. Let's go back to a bunch of mom and pop service industries that do not support innovation or advancement. While we're at it, let's get rid of medical schools so all those MD's (equivalent to a PhD) don't exist either. Let's get rid of law schools too...a JD is equivalent to a PhD too.

Your statement, when looked at critically, shows absolutely no knowledge of what those advanced degrees are good for, innovation, invention, advancement, changing lives, changing society for the better.

Perhaps you don't have the level of education you wanted to achieve...it's not too late, you can go back and achieve anything you want to achieve.
 
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Wow, lots of presumptions about me in your statements there.

I would love to see the BAR attorneys take a hike. After all, they are foreign agents who do not belong in the court.

The pharmaceutical industry and medical establishment have always been money-driven, and of course, funded by the Rockefellers. Money first, patients last. Still that way. Herbs cannot be patented, thus no one makes money. So "better living though chemicals" was invented. I don't use doctors.
 
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I don't use doctors.

And I assume you also don't have medical insurance. Good for you. Talk to me when you get sick and leave others holding the bag when it comes to your medical bills.

Your Sovereign Citizen stuff is totally out there....
 
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And I assume you also don't have medical insurance. Good for you. Talk to me when you get sick and leave others holding the bag when it comes to your medical bills.

Your Sovereign Citizen stuff is totally out there....

Why don't you go tell that to the Amish. They do the same thing I do, but I get the bad rap. Why is that?
 
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Why don't you go tell that to the Amish. They do the same thing I do, but I get the bad rap. Why is that?

News Flash: The Amish DO go to doctors...and they pay them.

Regarding Sovereign Citizen...Google is your friend. I'll not explain something to you when you obviously have the means to find out for yourself.
 
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News Flash: The Amish DO go to doctors...and they pay them.
Why is it so important to you that I see a doctor instead of using a home treatment?


Regarding Sovereign Citizen...Google is your friend. I'll not explain something to you when you obviously have the means to find out for yourself.

I wanted to hear it in your own words.
 
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I wanted to hear it in your own words.

And I refused...you went on and on about college degrees and all that rot...if you see something you don't understand, you look it up instead of demanding that someone explain it to you. That's called educating yourself. I won't be wasting my time with someone who wants to argue.
 
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Not having a four year degree does mean uneducated in the sense that they are portraying it.
This is another blatant myth and a lie promoted by the left-liberal elite. What the 4-year degree means today is that now you have the right to be a spoiled brat who believes that the world owes him (or her) a living. Colleges and universities today are simply hotbeds of socialism or Marxism, not halls of genuine education. BTW I have an advanced degree so I can speak with confidence.
 
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And I refused...you went on and on about college degrees and all that rot...if you see something you don't understand, you look it up instead of demanding that someone explain it to you. That's called educating yourself. I won't be wasting my time with someone who wants to argue.

^_^

Some people believe everything they read on Wikipedia.
 
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What exactly is a "Sovereign Citizen"?

There's quite a few opinions that get referred to by that definition, but essentially it's saying that the individual is sovereign, and as long as they are not physically interfering with another's liberty, then society as a whole cannot force them to do anything. It often appears when people claim that they aren't liable for tax, don't need driving license, etc.

There are varying, but usually quite extraordinary, levels of flimflam associated with it. Some good examples are thinking that capitalization of words actually has a legal meaning (e.g. BAR), that US lawyers called to the bar swear loyalty of the British crown, or that there is some overarching conspiracy by a particular group (strangely enough, the choice of this group is one of the more consistent parts) in running the world to its own ends.

I would love to see the BAR attorneys take a hike. After all, they are foreign agents who do not belong in the court.

So how do you feel about the legal power of sheriffs? How much of the Magna Carta do you think applies to you today?
 
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Wow, lots of presumptions about me in your statements there.

I would love to see the BAR attorneys take a hike. After all, they are foreign agents who do not belong in the court.

The pharmaceutical industry and medical establishment have always been money-driven, and of course, funded by the Rockefellers. Money first, patients last. Still that way. Herbs cannot be patented, thus no one makes money. So "better living though chemicals" was invented. I don't use doctors.

Sounds like someone could use an education...

CC, BSE, MSE, PE, MBA
 
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All the high college degrees, Masters, PhDs, engineering, computer science, and such are created to serve big corporations. Apprenticeship is rare.
In my state you cannot teach elementary school without a Masters. In many states you cannot be a licensed CPA without a Masters.
 
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In my state you cannot teach elementary school without a Masters. In many states you cannot be a licensed CPA without a Masters.

Well, those teachers just want to indoctrinate children into the atheistic, Marxist, anti-Christ education thing, including refusing to let those little darlings pray...you don't need a degree to teach your kids...they'll be just fine as long as they know a little readin', writin' and cipherin'...
 
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I am talking about family-owned businesses where the father teaches the sons the craft to pass on the family business.

What century do you live in? It sure isn't this one.
 
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In my state you cannot teach elementary school without a Masters. In many states you cannot be a licensed CPA without a Masters.

In my jurisdiction, one can home school their children as they get an infinitely higher quality education than any public or private school.
 
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