Does not having a four year degree mean you are uneducated?

[Moxie123]

Sounds like someone could use an education...

CC, BSE, MSE, PE, MBA

The feeling is mutual.

 

[Moxie123]

What century do you live in? It sure isn't this one.

Small business is alive and well. Kudos to the mom n pop businesses out there.

 

[bhsmte]

Question -

Is it accurate to portray people with no four year degree as uneducated?

I would say no.

It simply means they do not have a "formal" education, but in no means, does it mean they have not taken it upon themselves to be educated.

 

[Always in His Presence]

Glad to see the responses

 

[essentialsaltes]

Colleges and universities today are simply hotbeds of socialism or Marxism, not halls of genuine education. BTW I have an advanced degree so I can speak with confidence.

I have an advanced degree also, and I can speak with confidence that you are full of baloney.

 

[wing2000]

To the ops question, no. "Education" can be obtained through a variety of other means:

-Trade schools
-Travel or living abroad
-self educated
- work experience
- volunteer experience
etc

Having said that, I do believe higher education (not necessarily a degree) does help one to discern information - to question, challenge and verify information. I find a lot of support for Donald Trump, for example, is based on information with no basis in fact.

 

[abdAlSalam]

You are quite observant.

"Education" (such as public or private schools, universities) is simply "indoctrination" using controlled information approved by those who control the masses.

There is much, MUCH useful, empowering information that is hidden from us because of "education", which is just a glorified indoctrination of the masses to conform to a socialistic society.

Corporations own this country and they are hungry for college grads. And college grads are hungry for them and their "benefits". And the beat goes on.

Do you not see the inherent contradiction between corporations owning the country and your assertion that college is meant to indoctrinate students in socialism

 

[Moxie123]

Do you not see the inherent contradiction between corporations owning the country and your assertion that college is meant to indoctrinate students in socialism

Nope. They go hand in hand.

 

[RedPonyDriver]

Do you understand what socialism is? What you are claiming is an utter contradiction.

 

[abdAlSalam]

Nope. They go hand in hand.

What are you defining socialism as?

Or corporation, for that matter...

 

[Moxie123]

The US is a corporation. If you use a zip code or have an adhesion contract with them, you have contracted with that corporation.



The State-controlled basic studies curriculum and post-grad student loan payback sets one up for a post-grad experience of slavery.

 

[Moxie123]

There are varying, but usually quite extraordinary, levels of flimflam associated with it. Some good examples are thinking that capitalization of words actually has a legal meaning (e.g. BAR), that US lawyers called to the bar swear loyalty of the British crown, or that there is some overarching conspiracy by a particular group (strangely enough, the choice of this group is one of the more consistent parts) in running the world to its own ends.

Have you checked the law and law language with your own eyes before assuming this is "flimflam"?

So how do you feel about the legal power of sheriffs?

It's more about the lawful power of the sheriff with an oath of office on file.

How much of the Magna Carta do you think applies to you today?

All of it. Those who don't know their rights don't have any.

 

[MrSpikey]

Have you checked the law and law language with your own eyes before assuming this is "flimflam"?

Oh yes

It's more about the lawful power of the sheriff with an oath of office on file.

And what do you think the legal limits of that sheriff's powers are?

All of it. Those who don't know their rights don't have any.

Care to share which parts of various bills you are referring to? You surely can't mean the bits that were repealed, can you? So, having won a war for independence, why does British law still bind you? How does your written constitution, instituted when your state was founded, fit into the picture?

 

[Hank77]

In my jurisdiction, one can home school their children as they get an infinitely higher quality education than any public or private school.

We can home school as well. I'm talking about teaching other people's children.
An infinitely better education than ANY public or private school? I think that is an overstatement of the facts. If that were true my son and his wife would not have their son in the school that they do. They are both more than qualified and have the education to teach several subjects even at college level.

If one cares about their own children they will not attempt to teach them subjects that they are not qualified to teach. A wise home school teacher knows their limits and will seek outside instruction in those subjects. They will not rely on their own ideas about what needs to be taught but will follow a curriculum that has been designed by professionals. They will make sure that their student/s are taking standardized testing that shows the strengths and weaknesses of the student/s and how their knowledge and abilities compare to other students at their grade level. There are tests, such as the Stanford 10 that are not timed tests, that are especially fair to kids who have the knowledge but do not do well with timed tests because of certain disabilities.
As one who has and does home school I have been concerned by some of the attitudes of those who are home schooling their children. If the work is not 'fun' they choose to teach to the artistic and are lax on the academic. They seem to think that repetition is just busy work when repetition of basic principles are the foundation that must be solid to build on. The attitude of the home school teacher will be the determining factor in the level of success within the abilities of each student.

 

[Moxie123]

Oh yes

I don't believe you looked in the right places.

And what do you think the legal limits of that sheriff's powers are?

I am a big fan of oath keepers dot org which is a group of sheriffs who uphold the constitution of Americans. I do not "understand" "legal," but only what is lawful.

Care to share which parts of various bills you are referring to? You surely can't mean the bits that were repealed, can you? So, having won a war for independence, why does British law still bind you? How does your written constitution, instituted when your state was founded, fit into the picture?

I see the Magna Carta as rights under God. If I need to bring a common law (non-statutory) claim, it starts there. Common law stands.

I claim the 1849 organic Constitution of California.

 

[The Cadet]

I am a big fan of oath keepers dot org which is a group of sheriffs who uphold the constitution of Americans. I do not "understand" "legal," but only what is lawful.

https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2013/07/25/oath-keepers-rally-reveals-radical-politics-group

These nutters?

 

[Moxie123]

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The attitude of the home school teacher will be the determining factor in the level of success within the abilities of each student.

I agree with this.

I believe education standardized by institutions still limit students with useful information. It is taught from the perspective of one who will live under the US Corp.

 

[Moxie123]

https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2013/07/25/oath-keepers-rally-reveals-radical-politics-group

These nutters?

Sheriffs and police who know what an oath of office means and have one, participate in this. What is so crazy about upholding an oath of office?

 

[RedPonyDriver]

God save us from the nutters and ignorant.

 

[Moxie123]

God save us from the nutters and ignorant.

Hear, hear!