Is the Great Tribulation impending ?

[Riberra]

Do you ever get anything right? Not ONE COMMENTARY would agree with you. The true bride are ALL THOSE who are IN CHRIST - both the dead in Christ who will rise and those caught up after.

That is what i have said...the marriage will happen in the clouds 1 Thessalonians 4:14-18 [with both] the dead in Christ and the believers still alive unto Jesus Second Coming. (The Parousia)

No rapture before the tribulation is implied in the process.

 

[iamlamad]

That is what i have said...the marriage will happen in the clouds 1 Thessalonians 4:14-18 [with both] the dead in Christ and the believers still alive unto Jesus Second Coming. (The Parousia)

No rapture before the tribulation is implied in the process.

It is a total waste of time to answer your posts. Perhaps you should look back and see what you really wrote.

 

[Another Lazarus]

That is what i have said...the marriage will happen in the clouds 1 Thessalonians 4:14-18 [with both] the dead in Christ and the believers still alive unto Jesus Second Coming. (The Parousia)

No rapture before the tribulation is implied in the process.

When Jesus appears in the cloud all nations will mourn BECAUSE THEY ARE LEFT BEHIND AND REGRET !!!

May Jesus bless you all HalleluYAH

 

[Straightshot]

"No rapture before the tribulation is implied in the process"


If you go on with this rhetoric RB there will not be .... for you

And if you are alive at the time you will know that your false teaching on the matter was your nemesis

 

[Riberra]

When Jesus appears in the cloud all nations will mourn BECAUSE THEY ARE LEFT BEHIND AND REGRET !!!

May Jesus bless you all HalleluYAH

Your hope for an easy escape will vanish the day the real stuff will begin.

What you call the "rapture to Heaven" is in reality the resurrection of those who died in Christ and the changing into immortality of the believers still alive unto the Coming of Jesus .

You have been totally fooled .

I remember Lamad saying that today we don't use the word resurrection but the word rapture.

I remember Lamad saying that if he have to go through the tribulation he will not serve a God like that.

Ready for the great apostasy [who will come first] and later to take the mark and worship the AC Lamad ?

The tribulation will be the time that God will chose to know who the true faithful believers are among the believers still alive.
Expect no escape if you are not among the 144,000 sealed or the woman who flee in the wilderness under God's protection.

 

[Riberra]

"No rapture before the tribulation is implied in the process"


If you go on with this rhetoric RB there will not be .... for you

And if you are alive at the time you will know that your false teaching on the matter was your nemesis

Your hope that the tribulation begin soon because you are sure that you will not be there will be your demise .

 

[Handmaid for Jesus]

Your hope that the tribulation begin soon because you are sure that you will not be there will be your demise .

WHAT!??? Christians get eternal life! It does not matter whether we glorify our Father by life or by death. There IS no demise for the believer. Or, don't you believe this?

 

[Straightshot]

"Your hope that the tribulation begin soon because you are sure that you will not be there will be your demise"


Wrong again RB .... I don't know when the tribulation will begin .... and neither do you

What I do know is that the Lord will call for His true ecclesia of both the dead in Christ and those living at the time just before

And He will subject none of His to His wrath and judgment that is coming .... so His call will remove and immortalize all of the living along with those already in the grave

So I will admonish you again .... you preach against this truth for whatever reason

So if you are around when He calls you will not partake [Revelation 3:10] and you will end up here [Revelation 3:15-20]

If you are already dead at the time your fate will be much worse [Revelation 20:11-15]

 

[Riberra]

WHAT!??? Christians get eternal life! It does not matter whether we glorify our Father by life or by death. There IS no demise for the believer. Or, don't you believe this?

That is the point, will you accept to be put to death for your faith or will you take the mark of the beast to save your life.

 

[Riberra]

"Your hope that the tribulation begin soon because you are sure that you will not be there will be your demise"


Wrong again RB .... I don't know when the tribulation will begin .... and neither do you

What I do know is that the Lord will call for His true ecclesia of both the dead in Christ and those living at the time just before

Those who died in Christ with the believers still alive and remain will be made immortal unto His Coming not before.

Simple rule:there is only ONE coming of Jesus yet to come.

And He will subject none of His to His wrath and judgment that is coming .... so His call will remove and immortalize all of the living along with those already in the grave

So I will admonish you again .... you preach against this truth for whatever reason

So if you are around when He calls you will not partake [Revelation 3:10] and you will end up here [Revelation 3:15-20]

If you are already dead at the time your fate will be much worse [Revelation 20:11-15]

Satan's wrath will come before God's wrath.

 

[keras]

That is the point, will you accept to be put to death for your faith .

Correct, the only way to get to heaven, is by being killed for your faith and having your soul taken there and placed under the Altar. You do get a couple of chances to cry out: Revelation 6:9-11, Revelation 19:1-8
Keep up your good work, Riberra, you can't be wrong if you post the Bible truth.
SS: We preach against the rapture, because the Bible teaches protection for the Lord's people, not removal.

Sadly, those who grip onto the false theory of a rapture removal to heaven, continue to compound their error, by accusing and judging the brethren.

 

[Psalm3704]

That is the point, will you accept to be put to death for your faith or will you take the mark of the beast to save your life.

Those are your options Riberra. Our option has a better outlook as we wait on Jesus to come for us before the wrath....and ignore false teachings till then.

Thessalonians 1:10 King James Bible
And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come.

New International Version
and to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead--Jesus, who rescues us from the coming wrath.






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[Straightshot]

"Correct, the only way to get to heaven, is by being killed for your faith and having your soul taken there and placed under the Altar."


Really ?

Do you have any dead relatives who were believers in Jesus Christ? .... were they killed for their faith in the coming tribulation?

And what if you die before? .... does this cut you out .... is your salvation dependent upon braving the Lord's coming judgment

Your statement above is very suspect

Tell me, what does your own salvation depend upon? .... what works have you been taught that are necessary for you to be save

List them for the forum

 

[VanillaSunflowers]

Fear not. God knows his children and we are not alone.

 

[Riberra]

Those are your options Riberra. Our option has a better outlook as we wait on Jesus to come for us before the wrath....and ignore false teachings till then.

Thessalonians 1:10 King James Bible
And to WAIT for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come.

Don't you see that the verse clearly tell us that will have to wait for the Day of Jesus' Coming.
The wrath which we have been delivered from is the destruction of the sinners that will happen unto Jesus' coming and ultimately the lake of fire .

--Blessed is the one who is part of the first resurrection .--
Revelation 20:4-7

The WRATH of GOD for the sinners or if you apostasy .
Revelation 14:10
10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:

 

[Riberra]

"Correct, the only way to get to heaven, is by being killed for your faith and having your soul taken there and placed under the Altar."


Really ?

Do you have any dead relatives who were believers in Jesus Christ?

Every SOULS of ALL the believers who died in Christ goes to heaven martyred or not ie (died from natural death or in a car accident or from an heart attack)
The question is why the Book of Revelation is more concerned with those who died martyrs ? I think that by giving their life rather than deny their faith, they have became SAINTS.

Jesus will come back to Earth with His SAINTS =the First resurrection

Some surprise for those who believe that they are ''Saints''.

Don't wish to hard that the Tribulation begin soon... you will be tested to see if you can became a Saint.

see below:

.... were they killed for their faith in the coming tribulation?

Believe it or not but if you are alive during the tribulation during the 42 months reign of the Beast,God will expect no less than you die for your faith rather than save your life by taking the mark and worship the AC/Beast

Revelation 14:9-12
9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, 10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: 11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

 

[keras]

Correct, the only way to get to heaven, is by being killed for your faith and having your soul taken there and placed under the Altar.

Really ?

Yes, SS that is the truth. And if you can't see it, then you are blinded because of belief in false teachings. Isaiah 29:9-12, Isaiah 43:8
I know that a 'rapture' is probably the only end times scenario you have been taught, like most Americans. But such an idea is not what the Bible prophets say will happen at all. We are told to stand firm in our faith, and call out to the Lord for His protection on the terrible Day of His wrath, when He destroys His enemies.

Do you have any dead relatives who were believers in Jesus Christ? .... were they killed for their faith in the coming tribulation?

A very confused statement.

And what if you die before? .... does this cut you out .... is your salvation dependent upon braving the Lord's coming judgment

Revelation 20:4-5 is perfectly clear: only the martyred saints will be resurrected at the Return, all the rest of the dead, be they Christian or not, await the GWT judgement at the end of the Millennium. Revelation 20:11-13

Your statement above is very suspect

Yes it contradicts a lot of false theories and that statement from you plus your request for my beliefs about salvation, puts you under judgement for judging a fellow Christian. Matthew 7:1, James 4:11-12

 

[keras]

Fear not. God knows his children and we are not alone.

Sorry, VS, your quote of Matthew 24:6 is quite different in my Bible. This is unacceptable and we will report you for posting false Bible verses.

 

[Riberra]

--double post

 

[Psalm3704]

Don't you see that the verse clearly tell us that will have to wait for the Day of Jesus' Coming.

1 Thessalonians 1:10
And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come.​

Read the whole verse.

It clearly indicates Christ coming in two stages, the first stage when He comes for the church before the wrath.

You can't be delivered from the wrath in a post-trib rapture. But if you want to take part in Revelation 20:4, you go right ahead Riberra. I'll wait for 1 Thessalonians 1:10.











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