I do not dispute that. It is part of being "grafted in."I am not wrong - the text from Ephesians clearly - and I mean absolutely clearly - shows that Paul sees the Gentile as fully integrated into God's covenant family.
I can agree to a point, but I think we will come at that from vastly different places. I see that verse as relating back to Jeremiah 31 where God promises to bring EVERY JEW into the New Covenant. "All Israel" is every living Jew (at what ever time that occurs) plus all the gentile christians.I agree - I meant to say that the Israel in verse 26 is the church.
It will be, probably.If that were true, Israel would be a much bigger country.
I guess you believe that i believe that....I guess you believe Zionists are hiding under your bed and the poisonous little mushroom caps are growing in your yard.
Yes, apparently.And yet they allow you to say this.
Right. But if you go to many people in Israel itself, they will tell you that they feel as if they are in a ghetto. The problem is alleviating the fear from Israel that they themselves will be under siege if they relax the siege on Gaza.A modern version of the Warsaw ghetto.
Israel couldn't exist without US support but they continue to build illegally in occupied land and to brutally suppress the Palestinians. Is it time that the US used it's influence to get Israel to comply with UN resolutions, leave illegally occupied land and give up it's illegal nuclear weapons. Friends can still be friends even when one tells the other that their behaviour is unacceptable.
This isn't the 18th centuryIf a country conquers another country and annexes it, then it is part of that country.
Both sides make concessions, and both sides get a grip on their more extreme elements who will not make concessions. As long as Likud and Hamas are in charge, there is little hope.How does one break this cycle?
If they're "Gods people" then the all powerful God can protect them, he can do a bit of old fashioned smiting.
Government policy should not dictated by who an interpretation of who God wants to support , it should be dictated by International law and treaties between nations of all religions and all gods, including no God.
Israel are breaking UN resolutions and the US is doing nothing about it, that is raising tensions in the Middle East as is Israels treatment of Palestinians, all I'm saying is the US should use the huge influence to get Israel to follow UN resolutions and stop occupying land that was not Israel prior to their conquest of it.
then the all powerful God can protect them
All Palestinians are terrorists? Even the Palestinian Christians? Kids? Elderly?
This isn't the 18th century
Both sides make concessions, and both sides get a grip on their more extreme elements who will not make concessions. As long as Likud and Hamas are in charge, there is little hope.
Having seen the end of the Troubles in Northern Ireland, which I had thought would never end, I still have hope for peace in the Holy Land. There was progress back in the 90s, under Rabin and Arafat, and we need to get back to that level of dialogue.
It's been past time for the US to end its support of Israel for decades now... assuming supporting Israel was ever the right decision, and I'm not convinced of that.Israel - Is it time to stop US support of this country?
Go ahead and abandon Israel America,your fate will be sealed at that point and its effects felt before sundown that day.
That's the tricky part. We need the electorates to remove Likud and Hamas and elect parties who are less hard line and more prepared to compromise. But to get the electorates to do that is hard, because when neither side is making any compromises, people on both side are more likely to be angry, and more likely to vote for a hard line party. It's a very tough cycle to break.How do you preserve both democracy and prevent extremism? Hamas was democratically elected.
It was Catholic vs Protestant. But, like with Israel and Palestine, it was much more than that. It was sectarian, as well as simply religious. It was 2 groups of people who had been brought up to hate each other, and to believe they had a moral right to a plot of land. And it went back centuries.So, were the troubles resolved through political pressure? general secularization of Europe?
I'm old enough to remember the conflict and stories of it on the news, but I never truly understood why they were even fighting: Weren't they both pretty much the same ethnic group and religion?
My original post did not mention abandoning Israel, I was asking the question whether the US which funds Israel, should put more pressure on them to re-start a peace process and stop building on occupied land. I believe the US should do so, someone has to break the cycle of violence, and there is no one else with the influence that the US has.