Would you support a 'Christian Zone'?

[Moxie123]

 

[TLK Valentine]

What method will you use to resolve conflicts?

That's the million-dollar question, isn't it?

 

[TLK Valentine]

You have the freedom to live your life without God.

But in a Christian community, which is the thread's topic, of course, under God.

Public servants' Oaths of office under the dejure Constitution were always under God. Then the secular government added themselves to it and stopped taking the oath.

Fair enough -- so long as your "Christian Zone" doesn't impede on my space.

 

[W2L]

Not voting is also making a public statement .

God's people help LOTS of needy people every single day without any politician's help!

Yes, a far better statement I think. Give God the glory, not some political party.

 

[Moxie123]

You think that's all government does? Let me think about how I've used government in the last few weeks...every time I drove on a road, for starters. I go to the public library frequently. I deposited my paycheck into a bank account that's insured by the government, should the bank fail. I felt safe when I saw police patrolling. City workers came by and checked the telephone poles. I heard a street cleaner go by in the middle of the night. My mail is delivered promptly six days a week.

I do not need a politician to look up to. I have no use for a president. I do not need a policeman giving me a ticket for things which don't harm or injure others. I will not live my life by man's color of law and the administrative courts system which enforce color of law. I do not need to be arrested for going from point a to point b without a drivers license. I do not need to be summoned to court for a foreclosure. I will not be compelled to use elastic currency without remedy.

To name a few.... lol

Banks can take your money at any time and frequently monetize your paycheck up to ten times its value.

 

[Moxie123]

Do I not have the right to live in something besides a theocracy?

YES you do! The thread topic is about a Christian Zone, not a non-Christian zone, which is what you want.

 

[Moxie123]

That's the million-dollar question, isn't it?

Well let's hear your ideas

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Do I not have the right to live in something besides a theocracy?

No matter where you live, you are already living in something besides a theocracy (I don't know of any exceptions on earth).
Everyone on earth is living in a government and society under the power of darkness.
You don't have a right (nor any way) to avoid that.

 

[Cimorene]

Not voting is also making a public statement .

God's people help LOTS of needy people every single day without any politician's help!

It's making the statement that you're ungrateful to have a right that a lot of people around the world don't have & that was fought hard for you to have.

It's not 1 or the other you know. It's not like by voting you're deciding that you can't do your own part to go out there & help people with your own 2 hands too. Voting smartly IS a way of helping people. It's a way for God's people to do something to help other people. Some of the worst people who caused the most damage were put into power bc of elections.

 

[Cimorene]

Actually voting isn't a right, it's a privilege because you have to sign up for it and bear the burden of that benefit.

"Civil rights" are not really rights, they are actually privileges. A privilege is granted by a higher man-made authority.

It's a right & it's a privilege. It's what a lot of people around this world desperately want & what was fought hard for to you to have. Any kind of responsibility can be seen as a burden.

 

[Moxie123]

It's making the statement that you're ungrateful to have a right that a lot of people around the world don't have & that was fought hard for you to have.

You do not yet understand the difference between rights and privileges.

Nor do you understand that there are two jurisdictions on the land; one commercial, and one belonging to man.

I cannot be compelled to vote against my will, because any compelled agreement is void immediately.

This is not my opinion, this is proven in law.

It's not 1 or the other you know. It's not like by voting you're deciding that you can't do your own part to go out there & help people with your own 2 hands too. Voting smartly IS a way of helping people. It's a way for God's people to do something to help other people. Some of the worst people who caused the most damage were put into power bc of elections.

The smart way of helping people is not depending on politicians to do something for me, but instead, doing God's work to help the poor and needy on my own dime and time.

 

[Moxie123]

No matter where you live, you are already living in something besides a theocracy (I don't know of any exceptions on earth).
Everyone on earth is living in a government and society under the power of darkness.
You don't have a right (nor any way) to avoid that.

Good point!

One can choose the God of scripture, or one can choose the god of the world, Satan. Those are the only choices.

 

[Moxie123]

It's a right & it's a privilege. It's what a lot of people around this world desperately want & what was fought hard for to you to have. Any kind of responsibility can be seen as a burden.

What you are not grasping is that you want me to be a voter of the US Corporation. Did you know the US you refer to is not a country, but a corporation? A corporation, just like Coca-Cola. If I have no interest in being part of Coca-Cola, are you insisting that I join Coca-Cola just to cast a vote? [scratches head]

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

What you are not grasping is that you want me to be a voter of the US Corporation. Did you know the US you refer to is not a country, but a corporation? A corporation, just like Coca-***. If I have no interest in being part of Coca-***, are you insisting that I join Coca-C*** just to cast a vote? [scratches head]

And even if you tried to,
you couldn't make any difference in who the ceo of coca-posin is.
The usa monetary system that the whole government depends on
is largely stocks owned in the fortune 500 companies/ and-or / the stock market investments it has very unwisely made over the last 120 years or so.

the 'politics' is owned lock stock and barrel by the bankers/ top financial institutions/ corporations (mostly bigfrma)
and
they will never let 'voters' no matter how many choose who is going to be president or most any other office in the government;
and
government officials have already for a long long long time publicly admitted this, openly, even earlier this year on national television.

the system is corrupt. the system is rigged,
and
the whole system is staged. and all the people don't cry 'foul' - they been sucked into the whole system and have accepted it, without a clue how it works.

 

[Cimorene]

What you are not grasping is that you want me to be a voter of the US Corporation. Did you know the US you refer to is not a country, but a corporation? A corporation, just like Coca-Cola. If I have no interest in being part of Coca-Cola, are you insisting that I join Coca-Cola just to cast a vote? [scratches head]

What you're not grasping is that making things up to suit yourself doesn't make them reality.

 

[Cimorene]

You do not yet understand the difference between rights and privileges.

Nor do you understand that there are two jurisdictions on the land; one commercial, and one belonging to man.

I cannot be compelled to vote against my will, because any compelled agreement is void immediately.

This is not my opinion, this is proven in law.



The smart way of helping people is not depending on politicians to do something for me, but instead, doing God's work to help the poor and needy on my own dime and time.

Nope, it's you who doesn't yet understand the difference, or the concept of civic duty. The smart way of helping people is by doing all that is available to you to help them, which not only includes helping the needy on your own time & dime but voting responsibly.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

voting responsibly.

Jesus said instead to do all and only what the Father in heaven says to do,
with
many verifications Biblically and historically that it is not possible to take part in voting without sinning, and that those who vote are not told the truth and do not receive anything for their actions. (whoever gets put in office is not because of the number of votes in most cases , if indeed in any case).

 

[Moxie123]

What you're not grasping is that making things up to suit yourself doesn't make them reality.

All I say is founded in law. Give me some time and I can back it up with case law for you. I still doubt it would make any difference to you.

We can agree to disagree, because I'm not budging on this one.

 

[Cearbhall]

I do not need a politician to look up to. I have no use for a president.

You would have to write quite a bit to explain to me how you're going to do all of these things for yourself. The very fact that you're able to post using reasonably fast wifi without paying ridiculous amounts is due to government regulation.

I do not need a policeman giving me a ticket for things which don't harm or injure others.

What about if you do harm others, or if someone harms you? I want to make sure that you or that person gets a ticket.

I do not need to be arrested for going from point a to point b without a drivers license.

I think you do.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

The very fact that you're able to post using reasonably fast wifi without paying ridiculous amounts is due to government regulation.

Everyone would have free electricity if the corporations did what is right instead of being driven by greed.
Everyone would have much better internet service everywhere it is available if non-greedy businesses and entrepreneurs had any chance at all in the last hundred years.
Food (actually healthy food) instead of poison would be on everyone's dinner table inexpensively if the enemy wasn't in charge of society, corporations and government. (as much as Yhwh allows the enemy to be)....