Why the Catholic Church changes the Sabbath from Saturday to Sunday

[W2L]

Because you don't think the Sabbath is one of the Ten Commandments? or because in your view - violating the Ten Commandments is not really sin.

LOOK BOB< MY SDA FRIEND:


Where did I say that Sabbath was not among the Ten C's? I actually said we have a disagreement on how its observed.

Who am I, or who are you, to judge another mans servant?

 

[Meowzltov]

Well, we are not under Torah, so putting someone to death is not an option. Maybe you would lighten up a bit if you had homosexual family members. I happen to have some in the family tree. They were born that way. They are still God's children. All of us sin in some manner and that is forbidden also. Thank God I am not the judge. I love and cherish the homosexual members of my family. Some of the most outstanding people on Earth are/were Homosexual. How about getting real.

Thank goodness, because sleeping with a menstruating woman (even if it's your wife) is also called an abomination just like homosexuality, incest, beastiality, giving your children to Molek...

 

[Meowzltov]

The Bible is the primary document

Not in this case. Google "primary source document" and learn something.

 

[Bob S]

Thank goodness, because sleeping with a menstruating woman (even if it's your wife) is also called an abomination just like homosexuality, incest, beastiality, giving your children to Molek...

Yep, I do thank God I was born this side of the Cross. The fact is it was not an abomination for gentiles to sleep with their wives during that time. Trying to remember, women were sent out of camp during that time were they not?

 

[Travis93]

Hold the phone partner. I never said it was not a sin.

The fact is that some people are born with this abnormality just as some are born with many other disabilities. It is not ours to judge. God is in charge not us. If you cannot accept homosexuals or people with any other problem then the real problem is yours.

This is double minded mentality here. You admit it's a sin, but then say they were born that way. What is it, is God the author of sin? Is he forcing these people to take part in this vile perversion only to burn them in hell for something they can't control? I don't believe for one second people are born that way or that it's beyond their ability to repent and lead a life of celibacy. If it's only for God to judge and not man, why does Paul condemn it over and over?

Yep, I do thank God I was born this side of the Cross. The fact is it was not an abomination for gentiles to sleep with their wives during that time. Trying to remember, women were sent out of camp during that time were they not?

The entire section of Leviticus 18's sexual laws explicitly says it applies to gentiles as well.
Leviticus 18:26 Ye shall therefore keep my statutes and my judgments, and shall not commit any of these abominations; neither any of your own nation, nor any stranger that sojourneth among you:

Are you writing from the seat of your pants or do you have scientific proof that perverts are born the same way thieves and prostitutes and murderers are born?

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/f...of-americans-believe-homosexuals-are-born-tha

I have heard that before, lets see some proof that they can be changed. That would be close to God changing me from a man to a woman. It just ain't gonna happen.

http://ex-gaytruth.com/ex-gay-testimonies/
And of course, some of the Corinthians got changed as well.
1 Corinthians 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
1 Corinthians 6:10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
1 Corinthians 6:11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.

 

[Meowzltov]

Trying to remember, women were sent out of camp during that time were they not?

No, nothing that drastic. You'd have a fourth of the camp missing at any one time, and who would watch the kids? If you add oral Torah, which puts "a fence around the Torah," men are not even allowed to touch them. That's why Orthodox Jews have separate beds.

 

[BobRyan]

Where did I say that Sabbath was not among the Ten C's? I actually said we have a disagreement on how its observed.

So then - in our discussions we have both been arguing for the validity of the Ten Commandments and Sabbath only you insist that you keep it in harmony with scripture "differently" from me??

D.L. Moody makes kind of the same case. Interesting that you did not leap for joy when confronted with his statement which is the very same "yes Ten Commandments are binding and so also the 4th - but I keep it differently than you" --

is this a new W2L??

 

[BobRyan]

Not in this case. Google "primary source document" and learn something.

The ignatius pile of litters - the majority of which are proven frauds - conveniently "found" in recent times and are all "source documents" in your model.

My point was that people here tend to rely on the Bible as the source document - for doctrine on the Sabbath commandment. Perhaps you noticed???

but if you are looking for non-Bible -- "source documents" -- we have some

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Pope John Paul II - in Dies Domini -

Dies Domini pt 13 -
"the Sabbath ...is therefore rooted in the depths of God's plan. This is why unlike many other laws - it is not within the context of strictly cultic (Jewish) stipulations but within the Decalogue the "ten words" which represent the very pillars of moral life inscribed on the human heart!!

Here Pope John Paul argues two points in his document "Dies Domini"

1. That the TEN Commandments (all TEN... not just NINE ) still remain. What does that mean about the SABBATH Commandment? gone - or remains? or bent to point to??

2. In the second quote John Paul II Refers to the OT Sabbath as the LORD's Day -

Pope John Paul II

Dies Domini pt 13 -
"the Sabbath ...is therefore rooted in the depths of God's plan. This is why unlike many other laws - it is not within the context of strictly cultic (Jewish) stipulations but within the Decalogue the "ten words" which represent the very pillars of moral life inscribed on the human heart!! In setting this commandment within the context of the basic structure of ethics, Israel and then the church declare that they consider it not just a matter of community religious discipline but a defining and indelible expression of our relationship to God, announced and expounded by biblical revelations.

Dies Domini

From the Sabbath to Sunday

18. Because the Third (the Sabbath) Commandment depends upon the remembrance of God's saving works and because Christians saw the definitive time inaugurated by Christ as a new beginning, they made the first day after the Sabbath a festive day, for that was the day on which the Lord rose from the dead. The Paschal Mystery of Christ is the full revelation of the mystery of the world's origin, the climax of the history of salvation and the anticipation of the eschatological fulfilment of the world. What God accomplished in Creation and wrought for his People in the Exodus has found its fullest expression in Christ's Death and Resurrection, though its definitive fulfilment will not come until the Parousia, when Christ returns in glory. In him, the "spiritual" meaning of the Sabbath is fully realized, as Saint Gregory the Great declares: "For us, the true Sabbath is the person of our Redeemer, our Lord Jesus Christ".(14) This is why the joy with which God, on humanity's first Sabbath, contemplates all that was created from nothing, is now expressed in the joy with which Christ, on Easter Sunday, appeared to his disciples, bringing the gift of peace and the gift of the Spirit (cf. Jn 20:19-23). It was in the Paschal Mystery that humanity, and with it the whole creation, "groaning in birth-pangs until now" (Rom 8:22), came to know its new "exodus" into the freedom of God's children who can cry out with Christ, "Abba, Father!" (Rom 8:15; Gal 4:6). In the light of this mystery, the meaning of the Old Testament precept concerning the Lord's Day is recovered, perfected and fully revealed in the glory which shines on the face of the Risen Christ (cf. 2 Cor 4:6). We move from the "Sabbath" to the "first day after the Sabbath", from the seventh day to the first day: the dies Domini becomes the dies Christi!

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The Catholic Commentary on the Baltimore Catechism post Vatican II - argues the SAME two points.

1965 -- first published 1959

(from "The Faith Explained" page 243

"we know that in the O.T it was the seventh day of the week - the Sabbath day- which was observed as the Lord's day. that was the law as God gave it...'remember to keep holy the Sabbath day.. the early Christian church determined as the Lord's day the first day of the week. That the church had the right to make such a law is evident...

The reason for changing the Lord's day from Saturday to Sunday lies in the fact that to the Christian church the first day of the week had been made double holy...

nothing is said in the bible about the change of the Lord's day from Saturday to Sunday..that is why we find so illogical the attitude of many non-Catholic who say they will believe nothing unless they can find it in the bible and yet will continue to keep Sunday as the Lord's day on the say-so of the Catholic church

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In these quotes we see "TEN Commandments" and "DECALOGUE" not "630"

2056 The word "Decalogue" means literally "ten words."11 God revealed these "ten words" to his people on the holy mountain. They were written "with the finger of God,"12 unlike the other commandments written by Moses.

2072 Since they express man's fundamental duties towards God and towards his neighbor, the Ten Commandments reveal, in their primordial content, grave obligations.They are fundamentally immutable, and they oblige always and everywhere. No one can dispense from them. the Ten Commandments are engraved by God in the human heart.


these Catholic Catechism statements seem to support what John Paul II and what "The Faith Explained" have said in their two points above --

2056 The word "Decalogue" means literally "ten words."11 God revealed these "ten words" to his people on the holy mountain. They were written "with the finger of God,"12 unlike the other commandments written by Moses.13 They are pre-eminently the words of God. They are handed on to us in the books of Exodus 14 and Deuteronomy.15 Beginning with the Old Testament, the sacred books refer to the "ten words,"16 but it is in the New Covenant in Jesus Christ that their full meaning will be revealed.

2072 Since they express man's fundamental duties towards God and towards his neighbor, the Ten Commandments reveal, in their primordial content, grave obligations.They are fundamentally immutable, and they oblige always and everywhere. No one can dispense from them. the Ten Commandments are engraved by God in the human heart.

2063.... the words of the Decalogue remain likewise for us Christians. Far from being abolished, they have received amplification and development from the fact of the coming of the Lord in the flesh.26

2068 The Council of Trent teaches that the Ten Commandments are obligatory for Christiansand that the justified man is still bound to keep them;28 The Second Vatican Council confirms: "The bishops, successors of the apostles, receive from the Lord . . . the mission of teaching all peoples, and of preaching the Gospel to every creature, so that all men may attain salvation through faith, Baptism and the observance of the Commandments."29

(Application in James 2)
2069 The Decalogue forms a coherent whole. Each "word" refers to each of the others and to all of them; they reciprocally condition one another. the two tables shed light on one another; they form an organic unity. To transgress one commandment is to infringe all the others.30 One cannot honor another person without blessing God his Creator. One cannot adore God without loving all men, his creatures. the Decalogue brings man's religious and social life into unity.[/QUOTE]


Key question:

In legal terms - what does it mean to change one of the TEN commandments in the law - so that its obligation, its authority, its observance is now transferred to some other day - other than the one as given in that Command??[/QUOTE]

 

[Meowzltov]

My point was that people here tend to rely on the Bible as the source document - for doctrine on the Sabbath commandment. Perhaps you noticed???

It was a bizarre point. My post appropriately used Ignatius letter as a primary source document to prove a historical claim.

 

[BobRyan]

The pile of 15 Ignatius letters is one of the most corrupt fraudulent Donation-of-Constantine-Genre sources known to Christian history.

- and as this next example demonstrates that pile of litters is one of the most questioned sources in the history of Christianity.

in real life -

There are a number of scholars that consider all of the ignatius letters as "highly suspect" - since the source has been confirmed to be so corrupt.

No wonder scholars like Philip Schaff and John Calvin rejected all of it.

The epistles ascribed to Ignatius have given rise to more controversy than any other documents connected with the primitive Church

from : http://www.bible.ca/history-ignatius-forgeries-250AD.htm
From: Philip Schaff: Ante-Nicene Fathers, Vol. I, Introductory Note To The Epistle Of Ignatius To The Ephesians.

The epistles ascribed to Ignatius have given rise to more controversy than any other documents connected with the primitive Church
...

Philip Schaff: Ante-Nicene Fathers, Vol. I, Introductory Note to the Syriac Version of the Ignatian Epistles:


Some account of the discovery of the Syriac version of the Ignatian Epistles has been already given. We have simply to add here a brief description of the mss. from which the Syriac text has been printed. That which is named a by Cureton, contains only the Epistle to Polycarp, and exhibits the text of that Epistle which, after him, we have followed. He fixes its age somewhere in the first half of the sixth century, or before the year 550. The second ms., which Cureton refers to as b, is assigned by him to the seventh or eighth century. It contains the three Epistles of Ignatius, and furnishes the text here followed in the Epistles to the Ephesians and Romans. The third ms., which Cureton quotes as g, has no date, but, as he tells us, "belonged to the collection acquired by Moses of Nisibis in a.d. 931, and was written apparently about three or four centuries earlier." It contains the three Epistles to Polycarp, the Ephesians, and the Romans. The text of all these mss. is in several passages manifestly corrupt, and the translators appear at times to have mistaken the meaning of the Greek original.

The real Ignatius, lived about 110 AD. A total of 15 letters were allegedly written by Ignatius. We take the view that all 15 of Ignatius's letters are forgeries. The fact that neither Eusebius (300 AD) nor Jerome (495 AD) make reference to the first 8 Ignatian letters (Tarsians, Antiochians, Hero, Philippians, Maria to Ignatius, Mary, 1st. St. John, 2nd St. John, Virgin Mary) makes it likely that they were composed as late as 300-500 AD. It is this reason that all scholars reject these first 8 letters as forgeries. Some scholars, however accept that the "7 Ignatian letters" are genuine

D. Philip Schaff rejects all of Ignatius' letters as spurious:


Philip Schaff acknowledges that there has been a broad and long standing view that all the Ignatian letters are forgeries, and leaves the matter for the reader to decide for himself. Schaff does clearly reject all the letters

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Philip Schafff: Protestant theologian and a Church historian who spent most of his adult life living and teaching in the United States.

(And I am pretty sure that as a Presbyterian he was pro-sunday so his opposition against the frauds and interpolations attributed to Ignatius has nothing to do with a desire to expose the flaws in week-day-1 keeping)

He was much more a scholar than Ignatius - but more to the point - he shows why it is that it is highly doubtful Ignatius would recognize the frauds and interpolations invented over the centuries as being "his work".


"The whole story of Ignatius is more legendary than real, and his writings are subject to grave suspicion of fraudulent interpolation." (History of the Christian Church, Philip Shaff, Vol 2, ch 4)


"At intervals during the last several centuries a warm controversy has been carried on by patrologists concerning the authenticity of the Ignatian letters. Each particular recension has had its apologists and its opponents. Each has been favored to the exclusion of all the others, and all, in turn, have been collectively rejected, especially by the coreligionists of Calvin. The reformer himself, in language as violent as it is uncritical (Institutes, 1-3), repudiates in globo the letters" -- Catholic Encyclopedia
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/07644a.htm

By contrast the Catholic sources quoted at this post
Today at 8:22 AM #208
WOULD recognize their own words in the content of that post - were they alive.

that post is irrefutably quoting them - and the Bible irrefutably condemns the edit of the Ten Commandments.

So you avoid both.

No it's not. Stop misrepresenting the scholarship. .

Too many details to be noticed?

Were we simply "not supposed to notice"??

 

[Meowzltov]

Ignatius is a fraudulent source

No it's not. Stop misrepresenting the scholarship. This is beneath you.

 

[BobRyan]

Arguments over old letters,

The 15-letter pile of fraudulent letters of Ignatius is the resort and "safe haven" for those not at all interested in the Bible statements on a given doctrine.

Philip Schaff acknowledges that there has been a broad and long standing view that all the Ignatian letters are forgeries, and leaves the matter for the reader to decide for himself. Schaff does clearly reject all the letters

In fact I think the Syriac version of Ignatius letters has only three. in any case many scholars throughout time have considered the source too fraudulent to trust. It is nearly certain that at least 7 letter were actually written by Ignatius - but the content.... ahhh there's "the rub" -- interpolation and fraud seem to be the "Donation-of-Constantine" like rule of the day for such a source.

But in your post you seem to want to lump the Bible itself into that pile. I would suggest another solution.

 

[BobRyan]

You keep spamming the same scripture.

Those who call scripture spam -- need to select another board to post on.

May I spam Romans 14 then?

Those who imagine that Romans 14 approves of even one observance of the Galatians 4 pagan days - flatly condemned by Paul - need pay attention to 'Bible details'

 

[FireDragon76]

Schaff is just one voice, and his scholarship is considered by many outdated and polemical. Other Protestant scholars of his day did not consider the 7 letters of Ignatius to be inauthentic.

http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2009/07/are-letters-of-ignatius-and-polycarp.html

 

[BobRyan]

Schaff is just one voice,

Indeed -- Calvin is another voice, the Bible is another voice.

"The whole story of Ignatius is more legendary than real, and his writings are subject to grave suspicion of fraudulent interpolation." (History of the Christian Church, Philip Shaff, Vol 2, ch 4)

Presbyterian W. D. Killen (1886) The Ignatian Epistles Entirely Spurious.

Presbyterians, as a rule, repudiate everything claiming Ignatian authorship.



“There is, however, in the original no word or phrase which corresponds to the phrase ‘the Lord’s day,’ or to the word ‘ keeping:’ the literal translation is, ‘No longer observing Sabbaths, but living according to the Lord’s life, [Greek phrase] in which also our life is sprung up’. Indeed, the archbishop admits, in a note, that this translation would be correct; while his own is by many thought inconsistent, not only with the expressions in the original, but with the whole scope of the passage. (See Domville, I, 241-251; and Powell in Kitto’s Cyclop,II, 270, first edition.)

I choose to believe the Bible and "notice" the statement of scholars that all agree that the majority of the pile of Ignatius letters are all fraudulent and that they have no way of isolating the interpolations in whatever pile is left to dissect. So then -- its the Bible for the Christian.

 

[FireDragon76]

You do realize that conservative Presbyterians don't have the last voice on who or what is Christian? BTW, I can see you completely ignored than link I posted. The evidence seems to be that at least 7 letters of Ignatius are authentic. Things like a lower Christology, a lower view of the episcopacy, all point to an early date and authenticity.

 

[JackRT]

I don't believe for one second people are born that way or that it's beyond their ability to repent and lead a life of celibacy

If suddenly a revelation from above made heterosexuality a sin and an abomination, could YOU lead a celibate life?

 

[JackRT]

Because the Third (the Sabbath) Commandment depends upon the remembrance of God's saving works

Exodus 20:8 Remember the Sabbath day by keeping it holy. 9 Six days you shall labour and do all your work, 10 but the seventh day is a Sabbath to the LORD your God. On it you shall not do any work, neither you, nor your son or daughter, nor your manservant or maidservant, nor your animals, nor the alien within your gates. 11 For in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, but he rested on the seventh day. Therefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy.

Deuteronomy 5:12 Observe the Sabbath day by keeping it holy, as the LORD your God has commanded you. 13 Six days you shall labour and do all your work, 14 but the seventh day is a Sabbath to the LORD your God. On it you shall not do any work, neither you, nor your son or daughter, nor your manservant or maidservant, nor your ox, your donkey or any of your animals, nor the alien within your gates, so that your manservant and maidservant may rest, as you do. 15 Remember that you were slaves in Egypt and that the LORD your God brought you out of there with a mighty hand and an outstretched arm. Therefore the LORD your God has commanded you to observe the Sabbath day.

Now we have three different reasons for the third commandment. Or is it even the third commandment?


Exodus 34:21 “Six days you shall labor, but on the seventh day you shall rest; even during the plowing season and harvest you must rest."

This is actually the sixth commandment.

 

[Travis93]

If suddenly a revelation from above made heterosexuality a sin and an abomination, could YOU lead a celibate life?

Well if you looked at my status you'd see I already do that. My sexuality isn't exactly compatible with God's plan either (I don't think it would be a good idea to name it though as I could get arrested), and I repented, deleting all the anime images I had on my computer and putting away all television and video games to remove the temptation. I've trained my eyes to bounce away from the temptation reflexively, and no longer touch at all. So I don't have any reservations about declaring that it is possible to live a life of celibacy.

 

[BobRyan]

You quoted this post --

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BobRyan said:

My point was that people here tend to rely on the Bible as the source document - for doctrine on the Sabbath commandment. Perhaps you noticed???

but if you are looking for non-Bible -- "source documents" -- we have some

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Pope John Paul II - in Dies Domini -

Dies Domini pt 13 -
"the Sabbath ...is therefore rooted in the depths of God's plan. This is why unlike many other laws - it is not within the context of strictly cultic (Jewish) stipulations but within the Decalogue the "ten words" which represent the very pillars of moral life inscribed on the human heart!!

Here Pope John Paul argues two points in his document "Dies Domini"

1. That the TEN Commandments (all TEN... not just NINE ) still remain. What does that mean about the SABBATH Commandment? gone - or remains? or bent to point to??

2. In the second quote John Paul II Refers to the OT Sabbath as the LORD's Day -

Pope John Paul II

Dies Domini pt 13 -
"the Sabbath ...is therefore rooted in the depths of God's plan. This is why unlike many other laws - it is not within the context of strictly cultic (Jewish) stipulations but within the Decalogue the "ten words" which represent the very pillars of moral life inscribed on the human heart!! In setting this commandment within the context of the basic structure of ethics, Israel and then the church declare that they consider it not just a matter of community religious discipline but a defining and indelible expression of our relationship to God, announced and expounded by biblical revelations.

Dies Domini

From the Sabbath to Sunday

18. Because the Third (the Sabbath) Commandment depends upon the remembrance of God's saving works and because Christians saw the definitive time inaugurated by Christ as a new beginning, they made the first day after the Sabbath a festive day, for that was the day on which the Lord rose from the dead. The Paschal Mystery of Christ is the full revelation of the mystery of the world's origin, the climax of the history of salvation and the anticipation of the eschatological fulfilment of the world. What God accomplished in Creation and wrought for his People in the Exodus has found its fullest expression in Christ's Death and Resurrection, though its definitive fulfilment will not come until the Parousia, when Christ returns in glory. In him, the "spiritual" meaning of the Sabbath is fully realized, as Saint Gregory the Great declares: "For us, the true Sabbath is the person of our Redeemer, our Lord Jesus Christ".(14) This is why the joy with which God, on humanity's first Sabbath, contemplates all that was created from nothing, is now expressed in the joy with which Christ, on Easter Sunday, appeared to his disciples, bringing the gift of peace and the gift of the Spirit (cf. Jn 20:19-23). It was in the Paschal Mystery that humanity, and with it the whole creation, "groaning in birth-pangs until now" (Rom 8:22), came to know its new "exodus" into the freedom of God's children who can cry out with Christ, "Abba, Father!" (Rom 8:15; Gal 4:6). In the light of this mystery, the meaning of the Old Testament precept concerning the Lord's Day is recovered, perfected and fully revealed in the glory which shines on the face of the Risen Christ (cf. 2 Cor 4:6). We move from the "Sabbath" to the "first day after the Sabbath", from the seventh day to the first day: the dies Domini becomes the dies Christi!

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The Catholic Commentary on the Baltimore Catechism post Vatican II - argues the SAME two points.

1965 -- first published 1959

(from "The Faith Explained" page 243

"we know that in the O.T it was the seventh day of the week - the Sabbath day- which was observed as the Lord's day. that was the law as God gave it...'remember to keep holy the Sabbath day.. the early Christian church determined as the Lord's day the first day of the week. That the church had the right to make such a law is evident...

The reason for changing the Lord's day from Saturday to Sunday lies in the fact that to the Christian church the first day of the week had been made double holy...

nothing is said in the bible about the change of the Lord's day from Saturday to Sunday..that is why we find so illogical the attitude of many non-Catholic who say they will believe nothing unless they can find it in the bible and yet will continue to keep Sunday as the Lord's day on the say-so of the Catholic church

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In these quotes we see "TEN Commandments" and "DECALOGUE" not "630"

2056 The word "Decalogue" means literally "ten words."11 God revealed these "ten words" to his people on the holy mountain. They were written "with the finger of God,"12 unlike the other commandments written by Moses.

2072 Since they express man's fundamental duties towards God and towards his neighbor, the Ten Commandments reveal, in their primordial content, grave obligations.They are fundamentally immutable, and they oblige always and everywhere. No one can dispense from them. the Ten Commandments are engraved by God in the human heart.


these Catholic Catechism statements seem to support what John Paul II and what "The Faith Explained" have said in their two points above --

2056 The word "Decalogue" means literally "ten words."11 God revealed these "ten words" to his people on the holy mountain. They were written "with the finger of God,"12 unlike the other commandments written by Moses.13 They are pre-eminently the words of God. They are handed on to us in the books of Exodus 14 and Deuteronomy.15 Beginning with the Old Testament, the sacred books refer to the "ten words,"16 but it is in the New Covenant in Jesus Christ that their full meaning will be revealed.

2072 Since they express man's fundamental duties towards God and towards his neighbor, the Ten Commandments reveal, in their primordial content, grave obligations.They are fundamentally immutable, and they oblige always and everywhere. No one can dispense from them. the Ten Commandments are engraved by God in the human heart.

2063.... the words of the Decalogue remain likewise for us Christians. Far from being abolished, they have received amplification and development from the fact of the coming of the Lord in the flesh.26

2068 The Council of Trent teaches that the Ten Commandments are obligatory for Christiansand that the justified man is still bound to keep them;28 The Second Vatican Council confirms: "The bishops, successors of the apostles, receive from the Lord . . . the mission of teaching all peoples, and of preaching the Gospel to every creature, so that all men may attain salvation through faith, Baptism and the observance of the Commandments."29

(Application in James 2)
2069 The Decalogue forms a coherent whole. Each "word" refers to each of the others and to all of them; they reciprocally condition one another. the two tables shed light on one another; they form an organic unity. To transgress one commandment is to infringe all the others.30 One cannot honor another person without blessing God his Creator. One cannot adore God without loving all men, his creatures. the Decalogue brings man's religious and social life into unity.


Key question:

In legal terms - what does it mean to change one of the TEN commandments in the law - so that its obligation, its authority, its observance is now transferred to some other day - other than the one as given in that Command??

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And then responded with this --

Exodus 20:8 Remember the Sabbath day by keeping it holy. 9 Six days you shall labour and do all your work, 10 but the seventh day is a Sabbath to the LORD your God. On it you shall not do any work, neither you, nor your son or daughter, nor your manservant or maidservant, nor your animals, nor the alien within your gates. 11 For in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, but he rested on the seventh day. Therefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy.

I am fully in agreement with that.

You also quote the fact that FORTY YEARS later - Moses reminds Israel of their history and ADDs.

Deuteronomy 5:12 Observe the Sabbath day by keeping it holy, as the LORD your God has commanded you.

Which of course is not a rejection of the commandment on stone - but an affirmation of it.

Now we have three different reasons for the third commandment. Or is it even the third commandment?

Two reasons.
1 is the literal 7 day creation week. Ex 20:11 Which is the only reason given for the 7 cycle in all the reasons
2. is that in the Israel is specifically delivered by God from Egypt.
3. Ex 20:1-2 points out that ALL TEN of the TEN commandments have that SAME "delivered from Egypt" foundation for Israel as an added reason to obey.