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[jimmyjimmy]

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[yeshuaslavejeff]

What's the best way to educate your children?

What is the criteria ?
Whose children are more likely to enter heaven? (not many from most countries after all)
Whose children are less likely to be criminals ?
Whose children will grow up honoring God, trusting and living as Jesus says ?
(Harmless, blameless, helpful to others, worshiping one true God Faithfully all their lives)
Whose children will themselves raise honest children ?
Whose children will not harm another human being ?
Whose children will sit at Jesus feet every day and learn from Him ?
Whose children will go along with the crowd, sinning and encouraging others to sin ?
Who will train children in the way they should live according to
the One Sovereign Creator of ALL LIFE - the VERY ONE WHO GAVE THEM LIFE ?
Whose children will be an embarrassment , a shame to their God, to their mother and to their father - unruly, disobedient, lawless, shameful conduct, immoral (like Esau) thoughts and lives , left to their own ways instead of receiving or having Godly discipline ?

 

[Winken]

The below quote dates back to 1923. How much worse are things 90 years later?!

“Place the lives of children in their formative years, despite the convictions of their parents, under the intimate control of experts appointed by the state, force them to attend schools where the higher aspirations of humanity are crushed out, and where the mind is filled with the materialism of the day, and it is difficult to see how even the remnants of liberty can subsist.” ― J. Gresham Machen, Christianity and Liberalism

What's the best way to educate your children?

NO, they should not attend public schools, as Machen stated. There are more than enough church buildings, voluntary teachers, volunteer security, voluntary janitorial and lawn services, and more. We simply merge "home-schooling" into "church-based schooling." Expenses (lights, gas, water) will be borne by those attending. Secular, heretical, and practices which prohibit Bible, Constitution, observance of those matters central to Christian belief and practices, will be banned.

 

[jimmyjimmy]

Is home-schooling best and/or only choice?

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Is home-schooling best and/or only choice?

How about Yhwh-schooling ?
((Abraham, Adam, Job, Daniel, Elijah, Elisha, King David, Moses, Joseph, Peter, James, John, Shaul/Paul, Stephen, ... ... ... ))

 

[Mudinyeri]

Short answer: It depends on the child.

Longer answer: As a child who attended public school until my senior year of high school (at which time I attended school in a church building with other students utilizing home school materials) and then attended arguably one of the most conservative "Christian" universities in the United States (Bob Jones University) and as a parent of a child who attended a private parochial school through middle school and who now attends a "downtown" public high school in the country ... it very much depends on the individual child.

I saw so many kids at Bob Jones that had grown up in "Christian" school systems or home schools who were completely unprepared for the real world and who were completely unprepared to fulfill the Great Commission in any meaningful way. It was sad and concerning. On the other hand, a child - like my son - who has been trained up in the way he should go has a wonderful opportunity in a public school to practice his witness and begin working to fulfill the Great Commission.

There is truly no one size fits all. Some kids do fine in home schools. Others do not. Some kids will succumb to the pressures of a public school. Others will not. Some "Christian" school has cultures just as insidious as public schools.

I will add to my original short answer. It depends on the child and the school.

 

[High Fidelity]

What's the best way to educate your children?

Depends on what kind of education you want them to receive.

There are a few public schools out there that aren't terrible, but many, whether intentionally or not, seek to undermine faith and Christian(as well as others') values.

Home schooling is a luxury I hope to afford my child(ren) should I be blessed with a family. If it's not possible then I'd do all I could to find the best school I could and take a more active role in their education myself as well.

 

[jimmyjimmy]

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[jimmyjimmy]

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[High Fidelity]

From what I've seen, homeschooling can provide the kind of academic rigor which just can't be found in public schools, and talk about individual attention and customization for each child! Where is the down side to homeschooling?

That's definitely another benefit.

I can't speak to the state of foreign schooling systems, but here in the UK, classrooms are already considered 'crowded' to the point of detriment concerning the sort of interaction and availability of the teacher to move within the classroom and assist students and not be spread too thin.

Also, a parent home-schooling their child is likely far more invested emotionally in their success and, as you say, instil a rigour likely not found in public schooling, save a few institutions.

 

[Mudinyeri]

My first choice would be homeschooling. I know several families who have homeschooled, and their kids are awesome. They are intelligent, articulate, know how to make conversation, and are generally very well behaved. In other words, all of the propaganda about socialization has not proven true in the examples I've seen.

Yes. The particular school is very important. Night and day between some.

My own experiences are certainly not propaganda. For some children, home schooling works. For other children, it fails horribly.

From what I've seen, homeschooling can provide the kind of academic rigor which just can't be found in public schools, and talk about individual attention and customization for each child! Where is the down side to homeschooling?

Having experience with home school curriculum, I don't see how it could compete with honors or AP classes in a larger school. True academic rigor requires an expert in the subject matter. Suggesting that academic rigor is adequately served without an instructor is like suggesting that an athlete can reach their ultimate performance without a coach.

 

[jimmyjimmy]

That's definitely another benefit.

I can't speak to the state of foreign schooling systems, but here in the UK, classrooms are already considered 'crowded' to the point of detriment concerning the sort of interaction and availability of the teacher to move within the classroom and assist students and not be spread too thin.

Also, a parent home-schooling their child is likely far more invested emotionally in their success and, as you say, instil a rigour likely not found in public schooling, save a few institutions.

How is the UK for homeschooling? Does the government have much control over curriculum?

 

[Goodbook]

Well, i help with ministry in public schools but I cant judge the parents who send their children to them, I went to one myself, a lot of parents are poor, have to work, cant afford a private education or the time to homeschool. It doesnt mean that some of these parents arent christians.

I think if the principal is open to christianity or a christian themselves its more likely the school will be a good environment. Some public school teachers are christians some arent.

I know some people who went to catholic schools (they have their own) but never learned anything about God or even heard the gospel. They learned how to be good catholics though.

 

[High Fidelity]

How is the UK for homeschooling? Does the government have much control over curriculum?

I'm not too sure, really. To my knowledge, home-schooling is virtually non-existent here.

I plan on moving to Canada in the future, so we'll see.

 

[tatteredsoul]

The below quote dates back to 1923. How much worse are things 90 years later?!

“Place the lives of children in their formative years, despite the convictions of their parents, under the intimate control of experts appointed by the state, force them to attend schools where the higher aspirations of humanity are crushed out, and where the mind is filled with the materialism of the day, and it is difficult to see how even the remnants of liberty can subsist.” ― J. Gresham Machen, Christianity and Liberalism

What's the best way to educate your children?

If I ever have kids, I am homeschooling them.

Though, HR 3962 will make it a real bother for the homeschooling parent... I would rather expatriate or not have children in the States (or anywhere, really.)

 

[jimmyjimmy]

I'm not too sure, really. To my knowledge, home-schooling is virtually non-existent here.

I plan on moving to Canada in the future, so we'll see.

I'm wondering if they even allow it there, or in CA.

 

[Goodbook]

I think the best way to educate your children is to be an example to them.
Also read the bible to them when they are young. Gods Word wll stay with them all their lives if it comes from the parent who loves them.

If you can homeschool then do it but dont beat yourself up if you cant, trust the Lord for your childs education.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Well, i help with ministry in public schools but I cant judge the parents who send their children to them, I went to one myself, a lot of parents are poor, have to work, cant afford a private education or the time to homeschool. It doesnt mean that some of these parents arent christians.

I think if the principal is open to christianity or a christian themselves its more likely the school will be a good environment. Some public school teachers are christians some arent.

Look and see how many in the Bible went to heathen countries and were educated
and were "the best"
and see how it did not depend on the person, nor on the 'schools' nor on the country,
but on Yhwh Himself
that they were "the best" and most importantly
that they REMAINED FAITHFUL to YHWH, in spite of severest trials and even facing death !
Moses, Joseph, Esther, Daniel, Shedrack, Meshack, Abednego,
(how many others ? )
Yhwh WATCHED OVER THEM, and guarded them and protected them sovereignly,
and they WILLINGLY submitted their lives to Yhwh and worshiped ONLY Yhwh and
refused to bow down to other gods.....
Remember likewise in our current political/ poisonous climate/ Carey Reams, Lorraine Day, Max Gerson, Keith Green and David Wilkerson, and longer ago Antoine Bechamp...
all
people of integrity and truth who resisted the current political and social pressures that most people don't even recognize nor admit, let alone
who is willing to stand firm for the Truth, when it costs them their LIFE as well as their job?!

 

[jimmyjimmy]

I think the best way to educate your children is to be an example to them.

Have you found that a good way to teach reading, writing, and mathematics?

 

[tatteredsoul]

Look and see how many in the Bible went to heathen countries and were educated
and were "the best"
and see how it did not depend on the person, nor on the 'schools' nor on the country,
but on Yhwh Himself
that they were "the best" and most importantly
that they REMAINED FAITHFUL to YHWH, in spite of severest trials and even facing death !
Moses, Joseph, Esther, Daniel, Shedrack, Meshack, Abednego,
(how many others ? )
Yhwh WATCHED OVER THEM, and guarded them and protected them sovereignly,
and they WILLINGLY submitted their lives to Yhwh and worshiped ONLY Yhwh and
refused to bow down to other gods.....
Remember likewise in our current political/ poisonous climate/ Carey Reams, Lorraine Day, Max Gerson, Keith Green and David Wilkerson, and longer ago Antoine Bechamp...
all
people of integrity and truth who resisted the current political and social pressures that most people don't even recognize nor admit, let alone
who is willing to stand firm for the Truth, when it costs them their LIFE as well as their job?!

You mean this exact situation where "crazies, unemployed, unconventional, 'unplugged,' and the 'majority decided' stupid" were some of the chosen of God - found worthy by Him but invalid by the world?

You mean Ecclesiastes 1:9?