Super-Continent Pangaea

[bhsmte]

You should actually be doing some research to become informed about the topic. That is not going to happen though because you have alternative motives for your rhetoric. So you would first need to find a more functional and healthy way to deal with your issues. Although in your case your issue seems to be with boredom more then anything else.

LOL

 

[joshua 1 9]

demonstrate this biblical flood

Today it is no different then the world was in the days of Noah. They mocked Noah right up to the day when the floods came and they were destroyed. Today they will continue to mock Noah right up to the end of this age.

37 As it was in the days of Noah, so will it be at the coming of the Son of Man. 38 For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark. 39 And they were oblivious, until the flood came and swept them all away. So will be the coming of the Son of Man. Matt 24

"The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance." 2 Peter 3:9

 

[bhsmte]

Today it is no different then the world was in the days of Noah. They mocked Noah right up to the day when the floods came and they were destroyed. Today they will continue to mock Noah right up to the end of this age.

37 As it was in the days of Noah, so will it be at the coming of the Son of Man. 38 For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark. 39 And they were oblivious, until the flood came and swept them all away. So will be the coming of the Son of Man. Matt 24

"The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance." 2 Peter 3:9

You failed to use scientific evidence to support a biblical flood.

You are good at circular logic though.

 

[Jimmy D]

There are things you have to do to understand the Bible. You have to follow the rules they teach you in Bible College. First of all the word for "EARTH" Is Adam-ah and this means the Land of Adam. Not the entire world. Now lets go to science and the neolithic revolution. You will see that farming began in the Furtile Crescent, the Tigris Euphrates River Valley, what they call Ancient Mesopotamia. Interestingly enough farming spread from there to Europe. Lots of research has gone into a study of the beginning of civilization and the beginning of man being a food producer rather than a good gathers. I have spent 50 years to study all of this. So I know after 50 years of study that there is NO conflict and there is NO contradiction between the Bible and Science. Modern science has changed our understanding of the Bible but that is to be expected. The Bible is designed to be made new and fresh for each and every generation. WE can not trust our Grandparents to teach us what the meaning of the Bible was for them. WE need to discover the truth for ourselves and apply the truth of the Bible to our generation in our day and in our time.

So telling me what people believed 100 years ago is all rather absurd of you because science has made a LOT of progress in the last 100 years so we are able to understand the Bible a LOT better today then they did 100 years ago. I have no problem with Bishop Ussher and his book. That is all fine and good. But I think you do not even know as much as he did 600 years ago when he wrote his book. I think you need to demonstrate to me that you know more then just the dime store variety of pratts.

Which bible college? Do they all teach that? the last time you directed me to a bible study site they said exactly the opposite to the point you were making (there are no mention of plants or the sun in Genesis 1).

You also admitted that farming sprang up in several places around the globe at the same time and tried to claim 5 or 6 'edens'.

I am not telling you what 'people believed' 100 years ago, to suggest I was is absurd. I said that the lack of a worldwide flood was discovered 200 years ago, how is that a PRATT? Science has made progress since then obviously, it has even more evidence to suggest that these bible myths are just that, myths. There's no need to ramble on about Bishop Ussher.

It seems your approach is to take any scientific fact any one mentions and try and twist the bible to shoehorn that information in. If you treat the bible like that it becomes meaningless and can't teach you anything, you may as well stick with science.

 

[joshua 1 9]

You failed to use scientific evidence to support a biblical flood.

Right now the current theory is that the Garden of Eden is still underwater. They base this on newly released photos from satellites. The Bible says: Gen 2:10 "And a river went out of Eden to water the garden; and from thence it was parted, and became into four heads." So from what the photos show and what we read in the Bible: Eden is still under water in the Persian Gulf. If Noah had not rescued all the animals they would have been destroyed in the Flood.

 

[bhsmte]

Right now the current theory is that the Garden of Eden is still underwater. The base this on the photos from satellites. The Bible says: Gen 2:10 "And a river went out of Eden to water the garden; and from thence it was parted, and became into four heads." So from what the photos show and what we read in the Bible: Eden is still under water in the Persian Gulf.

Still dont see scientific evidence for a biblical flood.

 

[joshua 1 9]

Still dont see scientific evidence for a biblical flood.

 

[bhsmte]

This is scientific evidence for a biblical flood how exactly?

 

[joshua 1 9]

This is scientific evidence for a biblical flood how exactly?

This is based on satellite photo evidence along with what we read in the Bible: Gen 2:10 "And a river went out of Eden to water the garden; and from thence it was parted, and became into four heads." When you put the photos together with the stories in the Bible that would show that the Bible Garden of Eden is still under water in the Persian gulf.

 

[Loudmouth]

There are things you have to do to understand the Bible. You have to follow the rules they teach you in Bible College. First of all the word for "EARTH" Is Adam-ah and this means the Land of Adam.

Where does it say that in Genesis?

You will see that farming began in the Furtile Crescent, the Tigris Euphrates River Valley, what they call Ancient Mesopotamia. Interestingly enough farming spread from there to Europe. Lots of research has gone into a study of the beginning of civilization and the beginning of man being a food producer rather than a good gathers. I have spent 50 years to study all of this. So I know after 50 years of study that there is NO conflict and there is NO contradiction between the Bible and Science.

The claims made by the Bible go well beyond farming starting in Mesopotamia. It says that all of humanity came from one couple, and no others, right? It says that a flood thousands of feet deep covered the high mountains of the land, right?

Modern science has changed our understanding of the Bible but that is to be expected.

You could make any myth or legend adhere to science by changing your understanding of the myth to match the science.

 

[Loudmouth]

This is based on satellite photo evidence along with what we read in the Bible: Gen 2:10 "And a river went out of Eden to water the garden; and from thence it was parted, and became into four heads." When you put the photos together with the stories in the Bible that would show that the Bible Garden of Eden is still under water in the Persian gulf.

And that is scientific evidence for Noah's flood how?

 

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Joshua, Any evidence of the Garden of Eden and the rivers would have been lost in a world wide flood.

 

[joshua 1 9]

And that is scientific evidence for Noah's flood how?

I already explained that. The photos we have from the satellite can be used WITH the story we read in the Bible to make a determination as to where the Garden of Eden was. REMEMBER the word for Earth in the Bible was Adam-ah. This means that it was the Land of Adam that was flooded. This is not to difficult for you is it, because all of this is designed for a child to understand and sometimes the simplicity is difficult for people who are looking for complexities. That could be why you are having problems understanding the story. If you want to be great in the Kingdom then you must become as a child.

18:3 And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.
18:4 Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven.

 

[joshua 1 9]

Joshua, Any evidence of the Garden of Eden and the rivers would have been lost in a world wide flood.

Could be. I have not found any underwater research yet for the place where they believe that the Garden of Eden was. The Mesopotamian marshes in southern Iraq, were drained by Saddam Hussein. They are still working on trying to get them restored. Someday maybe Eden will be restored. During the 1,000 year reign of Christ.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/...sh-arabs-middle-east-water-environment-world/

 

[joshua 1 9]

Where does it say that in Genesis?

In the original Hebrew language. You have to read the original language. The translation will confuse you. I use the Strongs and blue letter bibles.

http://www.apostolic-churches.net/bible/strongs.html
https://www.blueletterbible.org/

 

[joshua 1 9]

It says that all of humanity came from one couple,

Wrong the Bible is a family history of the children of Adam and Eve that lived in Eden 6,000 years ago. Even Jesus called the non "Jewish" people dogs. The early church was confused and did not understand that the gentiles could be caved. They are getting closer ever day to map out the entire human race. I have a whole thread about the DNA evidence for the Bible. You should be having this conversation in that thread.

It says that a flood thousands of feet deep covered the high mountains of the land, right?

No the translation says high mountains but the Hebrew says high hills. This was a flood plain. Even today if you buy a house you should do some research to make sure your house is NOT on a flood plain because if you go to buy flood insurance you can be sure that the insurance company will do that research before they sell you flood insurance for your house.

In the beginning of farming most of the settlements were on flood plains. The reason was that this is very fertile land to grow food. Also they began farming the delta of rivers. Like the Nile Delta in Egypt. This is land that was flooded in the spring so that the seeds could germinate and take root.

 

[Jimmy D]

In the original Hebrew language. You have to read the original language. The translation will confuse you. I use the Strongs and blue letter bibles.

http://www.apostolic-churches.net/bible/strongs.html
https://www.blueletterbible.org/

I think it's confused you, my friend, I'm no Hebrew expert but the word used in the flood story is 'erets. After a bit of research it seems that this is referring to the Earth as a whole, it certainly is in the context of Gen 1. Your Bible links agree.

On a separate issue you've posted a few images without explaining what they mean, what are you asserting is the cause of this flood?

 

[Loudmouth]

I already explained that. The photos we have from the satellite can be used WITH the story we read in the Bible to make a determination as to where the Garden of Eden was.

But you haven't shown us any evidence that the Garden of Eden is where you claim it is.

 

[joshua 1 9]

I'm no Hebrew expert but the word used in the flood story is 'erets.

Yes the word 'erets is used in the Bible to mean the whole earth. The word used in the story about Noah and the flood is Adamah. Meaning the land of Adam. There is no conflict between the Bible and Science. Even Science goes a long way to prove the Bible AND to help us understand the Bible and how to apply the teaching of the Bible to our generation today.

 

[joshua 1 9]

But you haven't shown us any evidence that the Garden of Eden is where you claim it is.

The scientific evidence is the photos from the space satellite. They conform how accurate and true the Bible is. You are the one that does not have a leg to stand on. IF the Bible were not true science could show that. The Flood was NOT a world wide flood, the evidence for that is overwelming. So now you on your part have to provide evidence that the Garden of Eden did not exist and you have zip, zero, nothing. I have evidence from many Botany books and many published articles that is rather boring but they all confirm that the Bible is accurate and true. Here is a book written by Pam J. Crabtree that is even more evidence that Science shows the Bible is assure and true. There are many, many, many articles in Scientific Journals that substantiate that the Bible is accurate and true. You have nothing, zip, zero to offer in the way of evidence that the Bible is not 100% accurate and true. I have overwhelming evidence and you bring NOTHING to the discussion. Even with all of your degrees and all of your education you have nothing to offer in the way of evidence to back up your claim. People like to sit on their laurels in their ivory tower and they offer nothing of substance in the real world. That is why it is been said that those who can do and those who can't teach. I will give you dozens and dozens of articles and lets see if you can find anything at all that contradicts the Bible. I bet you come up with nothing. Because all of the scientific evidence confirms that the Bible is 100% accurate and true. You have NOTHING to show otherwise.

http://www.historyworld.net/wrldhis/PlainTextHistories.asp?historyid=ab57

http://www.historyworld.net/wrldhis/PlainTextHistories.asp?historyid=ab57

http://www.pnas.org/content/105/33/11597.full

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neolithic_Revolution

http://www.pbs.org/wnet/secrets/the-lost-gardens-of-babylon-guide-to-ancient-plants/1176/

"Early Animal Domestication in the Middle East and Europe"

https://www.jstor.org/stable/20170232?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents

https://www.google.com/webhp?source...l+Domestication+in+the+Middle+East+and+Europe