Science PROVES the BIBLE is True

[bhsmte]

And what does that mean exactly?

It means special pleading.

 

[Blondepudding]

I'm sorry but that's a dishonest quote mine taken completely out of context.

What?

 

[Blondepudding]

Hi Blondepudding, you seem like a genuine person so I'd suggest that you desist from using that meme in the future. It's a quote mine and as such is a deliberate misrepresentation of what Darwin actually said.

What he actually said was this:

I think if you click the Darwin meme you'll see it links to his full quote.

 

[Blondepudding]

Complete and utter nonsense designed to bamboozle the gullible and make them dumber than they already are..

You're known by the company you choose to keep.

The hostility in this place is ridiculous.

 

[Blondepudding]

Most people consider that God is independent of time.

Reminiscent of Aristotle's, Temporal Finitism?

 

[Jimmy D]

I think if you click the Darwin meme you'll see it links to his full quote.

Right.

That is not the full quote, did you not read what I wrote?

It's obviously a meme designed to imply that even Darwin thinks evolution is absurd, as such it's a lie.

If you're happy with that good luck to you.

 

[Blondepudding]

Right.

That is not the full quote, did you not read what I wrote?

It's obviously a meme designed to imply that even Darwin thinks evolution is absurd, as such it's a lie.

If you're happy with that good luck to you.

I did read what you wrote. And I reiterated that my Darwin poster was linked to his words. It wasn't the full quote? OK. It was his words.

This isn't an argument. It was a meme. Let's move on.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

I did read what you wrote. And I reiterated that my Darwin poster was linked to his words. It wasn't the full quote? OK. It was his words.

This isn't an argument. It was a meme. Let's move on.

And meme's are not arguments.

 

[joshua 1 9]

Reason tells me, that if numerous gradations from a simple and imperfect eye to one complex and perfect can be shown to exist, each grade being useful to its possessor, as is certain the case

His whole argument is based on what he calls "reason", yet Darwin does not know what real reason is. All he is doing is creating a myth. In Science it is fine to come up with a theory but then you have the burden to follow though and establish something in the way of evidence. You have to test your theory. Darwin never produced any evidence for his "gradations" theory. He tried to use an appeal to authority by modifying his friend Charles Lyells gradualism theory of geology. Interestingly enough it was the atheist professor from Harvard: Gould that falsified Darwin in this regard. So gradations becomes gradualism and eventually the whole thing is falsified by an atheist promoting punctuated equilibrium.

What you have to remember is that Darwin, Lyell, Gould are all authors trying to sell a book. Their objective is to make money. So of course they have to get people interested in buying their books. Authors talk about how you have to "keep the buzz going". You have to generate excitement and stimulate people. I have actually done a fair amount of selling over the years. No doubt they are all good authors and they all write interesting books. But that don't prove their theory.

Darwin should be highly commended that the "buzz" is still going 100 years later. That is quite an accomplishment. But it seems to be atheists that keep the buzz going in order to promote their atheism. At least here on this forum. In the mean time Moses is still generating a buzz over a book that he wrote 3500 years ago. Not a book that was lost and found. A book that has been on the best seller list from the beginning and continues to be a best seller after 3500 years.

If people do not want to take Moses serious then why should we take Darwin serious? It is pretty absurd that they try to disregard Moses and still they take Darwin serious. Yes this is the great apostasy so we have been told to expect that this was going to happen. If they would first take the Bible serious then they would be in a much better position to promote their Darwinism. When they reject Moses and the Bible they they automatically disqualify themselves.

 

[joshua 1 9]

Complete and utter nonsense designed to bamboozle the gullible and make them dumber than they already are..

 

[Blondepudding]

And meme's are not arguments.

Tell that to those that attempted to impart they are.

 

[joshua 1 9]

And what does that mean exactly?

God is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow. He does not change. He can go back in time. I have prayed for things that happened to me in the past and God is able to go back in time and heal me. God can also go forward in time and tell us our future. I have had dreams about the future. The last time this happened which is very recently, pretty much freaked me out.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Tell that to those that attempted to impart they are.

Which was you.

 

[The IbanezerScrooge]

I've read through all 22 pages of this thread and failed to see this proof. I was gong to comment, but then noticed that the word prove is in all caps in the title and felt too intimidated by what was obviously a strong argument which required an all caps word to convey. But I digress...

 

[bhsmte]

I've read through all 22 pages of this thread and failed to see this proof. I was gong to comment, but then noticed that the word prove is in all caps in the title and felt too intimidated by what was obviously a strong argument which required an all caps word to convey. But I digress...

When a certain poster states; they dont have to know science, but science proves the bible is true, it tells you all you need to know.

 

[joshua 1 9]

When a certain poster states; they dont have to know science, but science proves the bible is true, it tells you all you need to know.

You can produce science to prove or disprove anything you want to prove or disprove. Look at how the skeptics and scoffers present "evidence" all of the time for their purpose of suppressing the truth. A personal favorite is the research that shows drinking is good for you. I do not drink but I get a good laugh everything I see an article showing scientific evidence that drinking is good for you.

The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness, Rom1:8

 

[Astrophile]

Most people consider that God is independent of time.

I am not interested in what most people think about God; I am trying to persuade you to examine the scientific evidence, and to understand the contradiction involved in saying that 'there was a time when there was nothing'.

If there was nothing, as you say, how can time itself have existed? Space-time is as real a 'thing' as mass- energy; both are essential components of the universe.

You have to get away from the idea of a God creating a universe at a specific moment in time; in fact, you mustn't think of time as something independent of the rest of the universe. Instead, so far as I understand it, space-time and mass-energy are co-existent, so that the universe has existed for the whole of time, without being eternal or infinitely old. To put it another way, past time is finite but unbounded, like the surface of a sphere.

I know that this is difficult to understand, but you are making statements about what science proves, or what the scientific evidence shows, without understanding much about science and its methods.

 

[bhsmte]

You can produce science to prove or disprove anything you want to prove or disprove. Look at how the skeptics and scoffers present "evidence" all of the time for their purpose of suppressing the truth. A personal favorite is the research that shows drinking is good for you. I do not drink but I get a good laugh everything I see an article showing scientific evidence that drinking is good for you.

The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness, Rom1:8

LOL

 

[joshua 1 9]

I am trying to persuade you to examine the scientific evidence

I have thousands of books around here. Which book would you like to study with me to see what the scientific evidence is? Or would you like to look at one of the test books they use at the university. I have a lot of them also.

 

[joshua 1 9]

You have to get away from the idea of a God creating a universe at a specific moment in time

If you want to look at time then perhaps we can look at Gerald Schroeder. Or perhaps we can look at what Brian Greene or Brian Cox has to say about it.