Do the current violent actions

[Albion]

I was pointing out that Clinton condemned the violence at the Trump rally

You can describe it that way, but such faint criticism, coupled with blaming the victims, really doesn't amount to a "condemnation."

 

[Mountain_Girl406]

Yeah, but she says in that article that it's still Trump's fault: "“He created an environment in which it seemed to be acceptable for someone running for president to be inciting violence, to be encouraging his supporters,” she continued. “Now we’re seeing people who were against him responding in kind. It should all stop. It is not acceptable.”"

So Hillary may as well say about a rape victim: "She created the situation that enticed the rapist by wearing that skimpy dress!"

Not a good analogy, the rape victim isn't doing anything wrong by wearing skimpy clothes. But saying you oppose violence while claiming you want to punch people and offering to pay for the legal defense of one of the first instigators of violence, is wrong.

 

[Albion]

Trump wants to pull our military out of the far corners of the world and bring them HERE instead of meddling in everybody else's foreign affairs and that somehow makes him the most likely to start WW3. Okaaay, sure, whatever.

If WW3 happens, if anyone is to blame, it's the Bushes, Hillary and Obama. They've been destabilizing an already volatile powder keg and if the fuse was already lit before Trump takes office, then it ain't Trump's fault, because he didn't light the fuse in the first place.

Good point. If we look at WW2 and WW1 and quite a few others, the die was cast not by those in office when the conflicts started but, rather, those who made fateful and wrong decisions prior to that.

 

[Mountain_Girl406]

Yeah, but rather than blame the PEOPLE who are doing the violence, she shifts the blame onto her opponent who had nothing to do with it instead.

Instead of saying "You should be ashamed of yourselves... you're not helping me by doing this." She said "It's all Trump's fault they're acting like this!"

Trump has nothing to do with violence at his events? He didn't say he wanted to punch protesters or offer to pay the legal costs for someone who did?

 

[Xalith]

Not a good analogy, the rape victim isn't doing anything wrong by wearing simply clothes. But saying you oppose violence while claiming you want to punch people and offering to pay for the legal defense of one of the first instigators of violence, is wrong.

Goes to show how nobody can take a joke, unless of course, you're a rational-minded human being (which the violent protesters clearly are not).

Everybody at that Trump Rally knew he was joking when he said that. There was lots of laughing and chuckling and he even was chuckling with a big smile on his face. I was chuckling with a smile on my face. He gets up at the podium and he goes "We're gonna have some FUN tonight!" And that's what his rallies are: They're fun. You get to listen to (hopefully) the future president telling you how he wants to improve your life and he throws some jokes in there.

Now, the Anti-Trump crowd... they're looking for ANYTHING to dig up on the man, including idle jokes he makes. Well, joke's on you guys because every time you attack Trump he just gets stronger. That's because the rational people knew he was just joking, and you make yourselves look like idiots when you take the jokes he tells seriously when it was rather obvious he was joking.

 

[tickingclocker]

Politics as usual! lol

Interesting photoshop pic. That's what happens when mommy goes shopping and leaves daddy (not) watching the three year old play with his 'puter.

 

[Albion]

Not a good analogy, the rape victim isn't doing anything wrong by wearing skimpy clothes. But saying you oppose violence while claiming you want to punch people and offering to pay for the legal defense of one of the first instigators of violence, is wrong.

No one who's not in the pocket of one of the Democratic candidates could possibly buy such a line. "Oh yeh, our folks get to riot time and again because the other candidate said he would pay for the defense of one man wrongly accused."

That's no argument.

 

[Xalith]

Trump has nothing to do with violence at his events? He didn't say he wanted to punch protesters or offer to pay the legal costs for someone who did?

Joke [johk]

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noun
1.
something said or done to provoke laughter or cause amusement, as a witticism, a short and amusing anecdote, or a prankish act:
He tells very funny jokes. She played a joke on him.

 

[tickingclocker]

Goes to show how nobody can take a joke, unless of course, you're a rational-minded human being (which the violent protesters clearly are not).

Everybody at that Trump Rally knew he was joking when he said that. There was lots of laughing and chuckling and he even was chuckling with a big smile on his face. I was chuckling with a smile on my face. He gets up at the podium and he goes "We're gonna have some FUN tonight!" And that's what his rallies are: They're fun. You get to listen to (hopefully) the future president telling you how he wants to improve your life and he throws some jokes in there.

Now, the Anti-Trump crowd... they're looking for ANYTHING to dig up on the man, including idle jokes he makes. Well, joke's on you guys because every time you attack Trump he just gets stronger. That's because the rational people knew he was just joking, and you make yourselves look like idiots when you take the jokes he tells seriously when it was rather obvious he was joking.

You think threatening to punch people is fun? I can imagine what you do when you are serious. Bomb countries?

 

[Mountain_Girl406]

On this issue of peace and war, the complaints against Trump are just whatever sounds the most awful. If the Left and the Dems are to be believed, he'll ruin the country by NOT putting our troops into every hot spot in the world and arming every other country that appears to be on our side but won't tend to its own defenses...but at the same time, he's supposed to be going to plunge the world into WW3 because he's obviously a warmonger and an "authoritarian" (which, translated, means he's promised to start mending the country and returning to Constitutional government).

What's constitutional about banning people based on religion?

 

[Xalith]

You think threatening to punch people is fun? I can imagine what you do when you are serious. Bomb countries?

He wasn't threatening, he was joking. You've never heard someone go "I'mma kick your -beeeeep-" in jest? A couple of my coworkers, the one in particular says "I'm going to whup your -beeep-!" nearly every single day.

You know what happens? We laugh and continue about our merry way. And neither one of us have ever harmed a single person in our lives.

What's constitutional about banning people based on religion?

Sometimes drastic measures need to be taken to avoid a crisis situation. He said from the start, such measure would be temporary until a proper vetting system could be put into place. Then, when that is done, they can enter, legally, after they are vetted properly.

 

[Albion]

What's constitutional about banning people based on religion?

What's UNConstitutional about it? We've had quotas and stringent admission requirements for legal immigrants almost through the whole of our history, and the prohibition concerning religion is that it is not to be made a requirement for holding office.

 

[Mountain_Girl406]

Joke [johk]

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noun
1.
something said or done to provoke laughter or cause amusement, as a witticism, a short and amusing anecdote, or a prankish act:
He tells very funny jokes. She played a joke on him.

2.
something that is amusing or ridiculous, especially because of being ludicrously inadequate or a sham; a thing, situation, or person laughed at rather than taken seriously; farce:
Their pretense of generosity is a joke. An officer with no ability to command is a joke.
3.
a matter that need not be taken very seriously; trifling matter:
The loss was no joke.
4.
something that does not present the expected challenge; something very easy:
The test was a joke for the whole class.

Oh, ok...so when a Trump supporter punched a protester in the face, and Donald Trump praised him, it was a joke? A friendly 'just kidding ' kind of punch?
Donald Trump encouraged a supporter who committed a violent act, but he was only joking, and Hillary Clinton condemned violent actions but it doesn't count. Maybe if she had joked about paying their legal fees or punching them herself the Trump supporters would be satisfied.

 

[Mountain_Girl406]

He wasn't threatening, he was joking. You've never heard someone go "I'mma kick your -beeeeep-" in jest? A couple of my coworkers, the one in particular says "I'm going to whup your -beeep-!" nearly every single day.

You know what happens? We laugh and continue about our merry way. And neither one of us have ever harmed a single person in our lives.



Sometimes drastic measures need to be taken to avoid a crisis situation. He said from the start, such measure would be temporary until a proper vetting system could be put into place. Then, when that is done, they can enter, legally, after they are vetted properly.

I get it, like interning Japanese citizens, perfectly constitutional.

 

[PapaZoom]

Not a good analogy, the rape victim isn't doing anything wrong by wearing skimpy clothes. But saying you oppose violence while claiming you want to punch people and offering to pay for the legal defense of one of the first instigators of violence, is wrong.

???

 

[Xalith]

Oh, ok...so when a Trump supporter punched a protester in the face, and Donald Trump praised him, it was a joke? A friendly 'just kidding ' kind of punch?
Donald Trump encouraged a supporter who committed a violent act, but he was only joking, and Hillary Clinton condemned violent actions but it doesn't count. Maybe if she had joked about paying their legal fees or punching them herself the Trump supporters would be satisfied.

1). No Trump Supporter has ever attacked a Bernie or Hillary Supporter, nor a Trump Protester that I know of.
2). Hillary was shifting blame from the people causing violence to Trump himself, so the analogy doesn't work.

Now, if Trump stood up at that podium and said "My supporters are protesting at their rallies because Hillary says such mean things" then he'd be guilty. But you know what?

1). Trump supporters stick to Trump Rallies. They don't need to protest at Hillary's rallies. Maybe Hillary supporters should learn a thing or two?
2). Trump never shifted blame onto Hillary or Bernie. If a Trump supporter ever did attack a Hillary/Bernie supporter, I don't recall Trump ever condoning it nor shifting blame to Hillary/Bernie's words.

So..... try again.

 

[Mountain_Girl406]

???

What part is confusing. ..that it's not wrong for women to dress how they choose, or that it's wrong to encourage your supports to commit violence by offering to pay their legal fees?

 

[Albion]

Oh, ok...so when a Trump supporter punched a protester in the face, and Donald Trump praised him, it was a joke? A friendly 'just kidding ' kind of punch?
Donald Trump encouraged a supporter who committed a violent act, but he was only joking, and Hillary Clinton condemned violent actions but it doesn't count. Maybe if she had joked about paying their legal fees or punching them herself the Trump supporters would be satisfied.

You still can't make nothing into something with this, no matter how indignant you want us to think you are.

 

[Xalith]

I get it, like interning Japanese citizens, perfectly constitutional.

Maybe if they had entered the country lawfully in the first place, then we wouldn't need to play cleanup. Obama let these people enter the country by illegal means (no, him signing the executive order was NOT constitutional) and we don't even have papers on these people, and they are not following our immigration laws.

So what do you think we should do with them? They're in the country illegally, they are not following our immigration laws, and we don't have papers on a lot of these people.

 

[PapaZoom]

What part is confusing. ..that it's not wrong for women to dress how they choose, or that it's wrong to encourage your supports to commit violence by offering to pay their legal fees?

your entire post....never mind as it's not a big deal