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Do the current violent actions

Do the violent actions taken out on Trump supporters:

  • Make you more likely to vote for Trump

    Votes: 22 42.3%
  • Make you less likely to vote for Trump

    Votes: 4 7.7%
  • Will not affect your vote

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Sure, you can call me a liar, but that's on you, not me.
Except you mention MSNBC in 2015 here: http://www.christianforums.com/threads/fox-or-not.7861247/#post-66923241
And yet this thread isn't about MSNBC.
Hetta, Jan 17, 2015

and this reference in 2013

You must be watching MSNBC, Hetta. The Republicans have sent several bills to the Senate and they voted down each one.The Republicans asked them to discuss some changes with Obamacare and they refused. The Democrats wanted everything their way. The President was going to meet with all four leaders behind closed doors and Harry Reid talked him out of it. They both wanted this to happen because they think they will come out on top and the Republicans will be dirt. As usual. But Obamacare is going to bring them down from their thrones quickly because it is causing job losses and many more will lose jobs or working hours. We can't afford it and Obama and Reid know it.
The bolded is the way that they are holding the country to ransom. Like terrorists. Just like terrorists. Obamacare was voted intolaw. You don't get to change a law by making terroristic threats.

They should round up all those Repubs and try them for treason.

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Please show me where I did that......
Hetta is informed and knows MSNBC. She's known for years. Her posts prove that. Watch out for a Hillary type spin.

"I did not have textual relations, with that server!" Hillary Clinton
 
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I hear what you are saying and I have friends who say the same, but I don't think Trump is going to do this or be able to do this. If anything both sides will do nothing he wants and just wait out the next four years.
I more or less echo your thoughts. My belief is that our system is so corrupt that our country is doomed. We will eventually have a collapse that will be on par with what happened to the Roman Empire.

It is my belief that our current political system to include the mounting inefficiencies inherent with corruption are increasing as we grow... As we get bigger and bigger the inefficiencies likewise grow, but that growth is not linear... it is more than linear. Eventually, we will hit a threshold and the entire system will collapse like a house of cards. The housing market meltdown that happened in 2008 is just the precursor to what is to come.
 
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I more or less echo your thoughts. My belief is that our system is so corrupt that our country is doomed. We will eventually have a collapse that will be on par with what happened to the Roman Empire.

It is my belief that our current political system to include the mounting inefficiencies inherent with corruption are increasing as we grow... As we get bigger and bigger the inefficiencies likewise grow, but that growth is not linear... it is more than linear. Eventually, we will hit a threshold and the entire system will collapse like a house of cards. The housing market meltdown that happened in 2008 is just the precursor to what is to come.

I fear you are right. Well said.
 
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San Jose is run by the progressive left. This is the type of violence we see over and over from this side of the political spectrum. San Jose mayor told police to stand down. And the result is seen here. Some (or many?) of the protesters are in the US illegally. This is the same kind of vile behavior we have seen in Black Lives Matter riots, Occupy movements (run by the Progressive left and supported by the likes of Nancy Pelosi, Hillary Clinton, and yes, Obama) and now anti-Trump forces. Finally, ABC did it's job and showed the vile actions on national TV. The result will go against the protesters and in Trumps favor. Notice how the police did nothing.

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Hilary for prison 2016!!!!

But in all honesty, I don't have any faith in our political system anymore. They're both on the same globalist team in my opinion.

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I've gotta say tho... the more the current establishment fights against Trump, the more I got interested in him. We made it thru 8 years of Obama, and 8 years of bush. I think we could make it thru 4 years of Trump, but I cant say the same for Berny, or Hillary. These overt attacks form the side preaching "tolerance" are very revealing to their true intentions.
 
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San Jose is run by the progressive left. This is the type of violence we see over and over from this side of the political spectrum. San Jose mayor told police to stand down. And the result is seen here. Some (or many?) of the protesters are in the US illegally. This is the same kind of vile behavior we have seen in Black Lives Matter riots, Occupy movements (run by the Progressive left and supported by the likes of Nancy Pelosi, Hillary Clinton, and yes, Obama) and now anti-Trump forces. Finally, ABC did it's job and showed the vile actions on national TV. The result will go against the protesters and in Trumps favor. Notice how the police did nothing.

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Could not agree with you more Pappa Zoom....those protesters are the lowest things ever in the US.
 
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I'm sure there is a group of party-crashers that follow Trumps rallies and cause havoc. They're probably paid.
You think so? Find some vids and post them here then....
 
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I'm sure there is a group of party-crashers that follow Trumps rallies and cause havoc. They're probably paid.
Sorry, I misunterstood your point; I thought you were saying that Trump supporters were causing trouble at Demo rallies......dyslexia acting up again....sheesh.
 
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Sorry, I misunterstood your point; I thought you were saying that Trump supporters were causing trouble at Demo rallies......dyslexia acting up again....sheesh.

No problem, my post was a little vague to begin with.
 
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For me I have watched with my own eyes the one lie. To then hear one is going to make sure Obama Care is here to stay. Again know how Obama Care really effects you. We USE to pay $25 to just see the Doctor. Obama Care comes out. It jumped to $1500. This is the very sad truth. To now watch my two boys (one just out of Collage the other will be out this fall) try to get a job where they will NOT offer you 40hours. They dont want to pay for Insurance.

Then the other guy that is very good at business yet politics.. he needs alot of help and if he gets none this could make even more problems. For a woman to be PREZ.. matters not to me. If you search over this world you find there has been one that did a AWESOME job. Yet ours here is under FBI investigation where you DONT read this on the front page. The one guy.. front page, her? Back page USA TODAY just to name one. No one in our history has tried to run for PREZ while being under an investigation. You know one guy lost his job blah blah blah for LESS then what she has done.

Thats just it.. we see so many things happen over the years ..and NOTHING happens to them. Bankers.. what happen to them? Search..nothing in the USA. Now search world wide..yeah.. those bankers? Lost there job and are doing time. USA? Bullied them out. Again this is just ONE of many. So if WE as believers what something done we have to agree pray.

Lol I heard one person say "one is a crazy person the other a crook". Not my words nor do I believe that. This is why we have to pray and have faith. What GOD wants to do is give the US another chance. Why? WHAT other nation reaches the WORLD for Christ? And WE ARE STILL HERE! It is because of RIGHTEOUS in this land He gives the US another chance. MAN call for God to JUDGE.. God wants to save man. Anyway.. me.. going to pray not be moved by what I hear
 
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Trump is far from an ideal candidate. But he is far better than someone who has been proven to have systematically broken law after law, and who systematically lies about it. And He is also far better than an admitted Socialist.
 
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I was always Pro-Trump. This violence and these detestable acts make me even more Pro-Trump if that's actually possible.

I wish we could give Obama the boot tomorrow and put Trump in there, but we gotta play this election game. Fine, we'll play it.

But seriously, more places need to take a cue from Orange County in how to lock down rowdy protesters. Protesting is OK. Violence is not.
 
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I've said it before, but I see a moral imperative in voting for Trump. And a very real practical necessity.

This does not mean that he is my idea of the perfect candidate. But, as with other election years, we only get to choose between those who have been nominated.

In this case, the country is at a critical crossroads. It is not a normal election year. Mired in the worst recession ever, and one that's only getting worse despite Obama's deceitful rhetoric, we have to have someone who knows how to make economic decisions that will create jobs.

And we have to turn around a series of other wrongs foisted upon us by the current administration, many of them illegally. This is serious stuff. In addition, the opposition has adopted the far Left's approach to political change--preach hate and use violence.

How any conscientious voter does not see that the election is between THAT ...and KEEPING THAT from taking over the country, and doesn't understand that it's time to take a stand for the American people, I can't appreciate.
 
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