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Science PROVES the BIBLE is True

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There is no website. You would have to read the inerrant word of God, it is in the Bible.

Where in the Bible can we read about a leg and cowboy boot found in a concretion?

Where can we read about remains of blood cells in dinosaur bones in the Bible?
 
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Why does fossil formation require the entire Earth to be covered in water?
How do explain all of the fossil grave yards all over the world unless there was a world wide Biblical flood. They had to be covered with water, mud and debris very quickly, or there would be no evidence of a fossil, things get eaten, and the bones are scattered all around a kill site. Now, can you explain love?
 
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How do explain all of the fossil grave yards all over the world unless there was a world wide Biblical flood.

Local floods at different points in history. You know, exactly what has happened throughout human history. If the Mississippi floods, the rest of the world's rivers don't flood at the same time.

If I found night pictures from every major city in the world, would you be convinced that the entire Earth went dark at the same time?

They had to be covered with water, mud and debris very quickly, or there would be no evidence of a fossil, things get eaten, and the bones are scattered all around a kill site. Now, can you explain love?

Nothing about them requires the entire Earth to be covered with water at the same time.
 
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It was not a local flood, it was world wide.

Based on what evidence?

It is by the minerals in the water and ground that fossils are made/petrification is formed.

Except that the cowboy boot and leg were not permineralized. They were still bone and leather. They were simply covered with a type of rock called a concretion which forms when minerals come out of solution and surround the specimen.
 
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Ummmm I don't think you understand what circular reasoning is. The rocks above and below the rock the fossil were found in are dated as well. You quite clearly have zero understanding of how science is done.



You have no evidence for this claim.
Please explain how it works then, I have read the science books! Also you have not answered my question- how do you explain love.
 
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Please explain how it works then, I have read the science books!

It's called radiometric dating. For example, when a zircon crystalizes from molten rock it excludes lead (Pb) and includes uranium (U). Some of that U is radioactive, and it decays through many intermediates into the final daughter product, which is Pb. We know that this Pb came from the decay of U because the zircon can't form initially with Pb in it due to the charge of Pb. We know what the half life of these U isotopes are, so we can determine how long ago a zircon first crystalized by measuring the amount of U and Pb in the zircon.

As you can see, it has nothing to do with fossils.
 
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Based on what evidence?



Except that the cowboy boot and leg were not permineralized. They were still bone and leather. They were simply covered with a type of rock called a concretion which forms when minerals come out of solution and surround the specimen.
They weren't? Just what do you call a fossil then "Which forms when minerals come out of solution and surrounding the specimen". Really
 
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It's called radiometric dating. For example, when a zircon crystalizes from molten rock it excludes lead (Pb) and includes uranium (U). Some of that U is radioactive, and it decays through many intermediates into the final daughter product, which is Pb. We know that this Pb came from the decay of U because the zircon can't form initially with Pb in it due to the charge of Pb. We know what the half life of these U isotopes are, so we can determine how long ago a zircon first crystalized by measuring the amount of U and Pb in the zircon.

As you can see, it has nothing to do with fossils.
That method has been disproven. Is that the same dating that dated a live(living/alive) animals hair at 65,000 years old?
 
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They weren't? Just what do you call a fossil then "Which forms when minerals come out of solution and surrounding the specimen".

It is called a concretion. It is very different from a fossil that is from permineralization, like fossilized wood. With permineralization, the organic molecules are replaced by actual rock. What you get is a rock in the shape of the biological organism that used to be there. In the case of your leg and cowboy boot, they are still bone and still leather. They aren't rocks.
 
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That method has been disproven.

No, it hasn't been disproven. Creationists just like to make this claim.

Is that the same dating that dated a live(living/alive) animals hair at 65,000 years old?

Since hair isn't a zircon, no it wouldn't be the same method.
 
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No, it hasn't been disproven. Creationists just like to make this claim.



Since hair isn't a zircon, no it wouldn't be the same method.
Yeah and evolutionist like to make their claim. But still where did it all come from? Where did you get the knowledge that you have?
 
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Yeah and evolutionist like to make their claim.

I can cite thousands of peer reviewed geologic papers from the last 10 years that use U/Pb dating of zircons. The method has not been disproven, and it continues to be used.

But still where did it all come from? Where did you get the knowledge that you have?

Zircons came from molten lava, as already mentioned. We get our knowledge from studying zircons and the elements that make them up.
 
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It is called a concretion. It is very different from a fossil that is from permineralization, like fossilized wood. With permineralization, the organic molecules are replaced by actual rock. What you get is a rock in the shape of the biological organism that used to be there. In the case of your leg and cowboy boot, they are still bone and still leather. They aren't rocks.
I could not tell you whether it is a rock or not, and neither can you unless you have actually inspected it. Could you also say that man and a monkey are different. I mean you can tell by just looking a photo.
 
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