Origin of God's Morality.

[Archaeopteryx]

The Church does not impose her beliefs on anyone.

Only because she has been stripped of her power, thankfully.

I can't help it if you're not willing to do a bit of the work. I won't deal with someone who just sits there with arms folded, scowling the whole while. If you're interested in God, you will read and understand the Catechism of the Catholic Church, or any of a number of other systematic theology texts. Summa Theologiae might be a good start, too.

Former Catholic here.

 

[Archaeopteryx]

Yes, you are right but I doubt I would get a solid answer from you there either......

You're so funny. Do you intend on ever addressing DogmaHunter's response to your questions?

 

[Archaeopteryx]

How would you demonstrate that it happened otherwise?

Are you saying that if one cannot show that it happened otherwise, that "Goddidit" must be true?

 

[DogmaHunter]

Well, they are all attributable to God, ultimately.

Typical response of "I'm right, even when I'm wrong!!!!"

Regarding "desease", which I assume is "disease", that came about because of free will.

Um, yeah, they did. They realize there's a point where we can't know unless God reveals it. But they do keep trying. In fact, they try to prove things by saying there is no God, but that doesn't work, just ask Darwin.

Your responses keep getting more and more absurd as the thread moves along.

 

[DogmaHunter]

Quite a bit, actually. Brute force, mostly. Grinding people into the ground until they submitted, too.

Owkay.

I wonder how you manage to breath with your head burried in the ground like that.

 

[DogmaHunter]

Refresh my memory. If you addressed it, I didn't see it.

I think it's more a matter of you just ignoring it.

What a laugh.

No. Fact.

What freedom?

For example, your freedom of having the absurd beliefs you are sharing here.

License is more like it. Everything else you said is just wrong.

Are you joking? You must be....

So ebola in the US, ZIKA, 150 forms of venereal disease...those are examples of health?

Each one of these things would have killed more then half the population if they occured 300 years ago.

Go ask medieval europeans about the black plague.

Along with disease, and threat of violence for holding your beliefs.

I don't feel threatened at all for my beliefs (or lack thereof).
A couple centuries ago, however, they would have burned me as a heretic.

Europe is not safer since they formed the EU.

The EU was not about safety, but about economy primarily.

 

[DogmaHunter]

How would you demonstrate that it happened otherwise?
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Blatant burden of proof shift.

 

[civilwarbuff]

You're so funny. Do you intend on ever addressing DogmaHunter's response to your questions?

Did he hire you as his PR person?

 

[civilwarbuff]

Are you saying that if one cannot show that it happened otherwise, that "Goddidit" must be true?

Answer another question with a question....one day it might be worth having a conversation with you but not until you can answer questions; otherwise it is just a dull one way conversation.....sort of like talking to a child who always answers "Why?".

 

[Archaeopteryx]

Did he hire you as his PR person?

No, I'm just pointing out your hypocrisy.

 

[Archaeopteryx]

Answer another question with a question....one day it might be worth having a conversation with you but not until you can answer questions; otherwise it is just a dull one way conversation.....sort of like talking to a child who always answers "Why?".

It's a legitimate question: is that your claim? Because if it is, then there are obvious problems with it.

 

[Archaeopteryx]

Second Sea Lord?

 

[DogmaHunter]

Funny......

An observation:

...a list of links to god arguments...

bhsmte then asks:

How would you demonstrate that a god created the universe?

civilwarbuff then answers the question with a question

How would you demonstrate that it happened otherwise?

Archaeopteryx responds with

Are you saying that if one cannot show that it happened otherwise, that "Goddidit" must be true?

and then civilwarbuff again:

Answer another question with a question....one day it might be worth having a conversation with you but not until you can answer questions;

Very funny indeed.

civilwarbuff, maybe you should apply your standards to yourself first, before demanding others to comply.

otherwise it is just a dull one way conversation.....sort of like talking to a child who always answers "Why?".

Childish behaviour, is indeed something that comes to mind when reading this thread.

 

[bhsmte]

Funny......

An observation:



bhsmte then asks:



civilwarbuff then answers the question with a question



Archaeopteryx responds with



and then civilwarbuff again:



Very funny indeed.

civilwarbuff, maybe you should apply your standards to yourself first, before demanding others to comply.



Childish behaviour, is indeed something that comes to mind when reading this thread.

You have pointed out; the inconvenience of reality.

 

[Archaeopteryx]

The seamen of the Admiralty don't appear to care too much...

 

[bhsmte]

There is no asking to prove a negative in that statement; I am not asking to you prove God did not create the universe. I am asking you to show that it was done in some other way. Huge difference......

As soon as you show me an alien from another universe, didnt create our universe.

See how that works?

 

[civilwarbuff]

As soon as you show me an alien from another universe, didnt create our universe.

See how that works?

So, you don't agree with the Big Bang Theory? Some other theory maybe?

 

[Archaeopteryx]

So, you don't agree with the Big Bang Theory? Some other theory maybe?

How did you get that from his comment?

 

[bhsmte]

So, you don't agree with the Big Bang Theory? Some other theory maybe?

I dont believe i commented on the big bang, but strawman away!

 

[civilwarbuff]

I dont believe i commented on the big bang, but strawman away!

Then which theory of the creation of the universed to you abscribe to?