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It seems to me that, when you get to a point of "I don't know," the only intellectually honest thing to do would be to admit that you don't know, not to claim that you've figured it out.
I don't believe that explains why, though. It is true, but doesn't explain why.
If you are saying that not knowing how something works implies that Goddidit, then you are arguing from ignorance.
I have an iPhone. When I got it, it said "Designed by Apple". When I got it, I didn't bother to read the manual, because I knew the basics of how it works. As I went on, I got more and more details of what it could do, but I never really got to know all it could do. I could read books, do research on the internet, and find out more and more, but the only way I could know fully what an iPhone can do is to know the designers.
I'm not interested in a game of twenty questions. I'm interested in seeing this case you claim to have. You've led us along for a number of pages, so I'm curious to see what you actually have.
You are claiming that the information in it is scientific, though. But it's not.
What writings would those be?It can be inferred from how they described the world around them in their writings.
Exactly! They didn't have the perspective we have now, and until they did, they couldn't come to the conclusion we did later. But it does show that heavenly bodies were generally disc-shaped.
Ergo, the world, going forward, knew it wasn't flat.
If someone would take the questions I'm asking seriously, we might get there. I'm not holding my breath, though.
This is an example of an argument from ignorance:
If you don't know, Root of Jesse, then why would you assert that you've figured it out?
I would have to look at your belief system and see if it agrees with mine. Not necessarily religious beliefs, but moral beliefs, at least. If you were what I consider to be moral, I'd give you the benefit of the doubt that you're not lying to me. At least I would know that yo believe it, whether or not I do.
It doesn't have to be the choir, dude, but it does need to be someone sincerely interested in a discussion. I'll not waste time with people who just sit there with arms folded going, "no it's not, no it doesn't". Someone sincere will at least follow along in an argument. So far, no one has.
Yours, maybe. I've shown that I know a lot of things about my iPhone, but that the best source would be with the designer.
Because I have faith that God allows me to know what I need to know.
See, you guys like to put people in categories, or their arguments, or whatever. As if you know what the argument really is. You might know it intellectually, but I can tell you don't know it in your heart. I used to be that sort of man, myself-had it all in my head. A know-it-all, like you. I know better now.
Could you demonstrate how I have argued from ignorance?
In what way does your ignorance imply that a deity must be at work?
Do you consider ancient Rome to be one of them 'cooperative society's?
