Origin of God's Morality.

[Archaeopteryx]

Why put in good work and effort on something that's not going to bear any fruit? You guys certainly haven't done anything to promote your point of view...

What a pathetic excuse.

 

[Archaeopteryx]

I asked you a question. Did you even bother to consider it?

Which question are you referring to? Could you link to it or quote it?

 

[Root of Jesse]

Which question are you referring to? Could you link to it or quote it?

See how much you like to skim? 17 minutes ago, and all you can do is disparage.

 

[civilwarbuff]

Which question are you referring to? Could you link to it or quote it?

LOL....You can see how much effort he puts into even an easy discussion....virtually none......

 

[Archaeopteryx]

LOL....You can see how much effort he puts into even an easy discussion....virtually none......

Such as "can you please direct me to the question you are referring to?" By the way, you've contributed nothing.

 

[Archaeopteryx]

See how much you like to skim? 17 minutes ago, and all you can do is disparage.

Disparage what? I politely asked you to direct me to the post you are referring to.

 

[Archaeopteryx]

Frankly, it's not surprising that you consider these arguments as stock. They're stock because they're Truth. Truth doesn't waver, not one little bit.

Cool. So you going to present that rock-solid case anytime soon?

I will admit that I don't know a whole lot of atheists, so I really don't know whether you, or any other atheist (few that you are) know, or have really considered, the argument. And while you're quick to accuse me of skimming, you 'glanced at' an entire website, meaning you didn't read and consider what it says.

What is says appears no different to what I've already encountered from apologists, hence my use of the phrase "stock standard arguments."

You say Christians are invited to present and defend their case for Christianity, well, thanks, it's a Christian board. But I have presented several arguments, but as my colleague notes, it's a whole bunch of 'nope, not good enough'. Why not give reasons why an argument isn't good enough?

You already presented your rock-solid case? Where?

Let me ask you a question: Do you believe that everyone in the world is obligated to do good?

You're going to start with the moral argument?

 

[Root of Jesse]

Cool. So you going to present that rock-solid case anytime soon?

What is says appears no different to what I've already encountered from apologists, hence my use of the phrase "stock standard arguments."

You already presented your rock-solid case? Where?

You're going to start with the moral argument?

You're not going to answer the question, are you?

 

[Archaeopteryx]

You're not going to answer the question, are you?

About moral obligations? Sure, we have moral obligations. I'm not a moral nihilist, if that's what you're asking. What other question could you be referring to?

 

[Root of Jesse]

About moral obligations? Sure, we have moral obligations. I'm not a moral nihilist, if that's what you're asking. What other question could you be referring to?

So, you believe that every person on earth has a moral obligation to do good. Where does that obligation come from?

 

[Archaeopteryx]

So, you believe that every person on earth has a moral obligation to do good. Where does that obligation come from?

To put it concisely, wellbeing. We aspire to furthering the wellbeing of ourselves and others. That's what it means to do good.

 

[Root of Jesse]

To put it concisely, wellbeing. We aspire to furthering the wellbeing of ourselves and others. That's what it means to do good.

Why do we aspire to further the wellbeing of others?

 

[Archaeopteryx]

Why do we aspire to further the wellbeing of others?

You're venturing off-topic. Either relate to this to the case you purport to possess or start a new thread dealing with this topic.

 

[Davian]

Too bad....the results would have been interesting.....

Knowing he can't deliver, that would be.

 

[civilwarbuff]

Such as "can you please direct me to the question you are referring to?" By the way, you've contributed nothing.

It is easy to find, backtrack on his/your thread.....

 

[Root of Jesse]

You're venturing off-topic. Either relate to this to the case you purport to possess or start a new thread dealing with this topic.

This is directly related to the topic. Either answer the question, or admit you're not really interested.

 

[Root of Jesse]

Knowing he can't deliver, that would be.

You don't know jack.

 

[Davian]

An immovable earth is different from a flat earth.

The concepts are not incompatible.

Everyone says that prior to Columbus, they thought that ships would fall over the edge of the horizon, yet we know that the belief (that people thought ships would fall over the edge) isn't true.

I made no allusions to that era. However, Wikipedia does have a section on the history of beliefs in a flat Earth from the Ancient Near East, Ancient Mediterranean, Ancient India, Norse and Germanic peoples, and Ancient China.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_Earth#Historical_development

I'm not implying anything. I want to know where your accusation of flat-earth believers comes from.

While it is tempting to cite some celebrities that were recently in the news railing against the flat-Earth deniers, I could look to the ancient writers that believed in an immovable - and flat - Earth.

The Old World

• Davian
• Oct 17, 2014
• 1

I still would like to know, why does it matter from where it comes?

It suggests that that group of people is stupid...

Not at all. The concept of a flat Earth is justified by observational data and everyday experience.

I am just pointing out that beliefs can be rational and justified, but that does not necessarily make them true.

 

[Davian]

You say so.

With that established, do you then accept as real the existence of Thor, as described in Norse mythology, a hammer-wielding god associated with thunder, lightning, storms, oak trees, strength, the protection of mankind?

 

[Davian]

You don't know jack.

All I know is that you failed to deliver. What am I to conclude from that?