Galatians 3: Under The Law?

[EastCoastRemnant]

Galatians chapter 3
10 For all who rely on the works of the law are under a curse, as it is written: “Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law.”[e] 11 Clearly no one who relies on the law is justified before God, because “the righteous will live by faith.”[f] 12 The law is not based on faith; on the contrary, it says, “The person who does these things will live by them.”[g] 13 Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us, for it is written: “Cursed is everyone who is hung on a pole.”[h] 14 He redeemed us in order that the blessing given to Abraham might come to the Gentiles through Christ Jesus, so that by faith we might receive the promise of the Spirit.

How does that square with the blessings promised in Lev 26? You have to square all scripture on a subject in order to be able to fully understand what the Lord really meant... so far, you are making God a covenant breaker with the premise you're on...

 

[Mb_C]

When I first looked at the verse I thought Jay P. Greene Jr. had written the stuff about the light bulb. you didn't distinguish between his quote and your thought.

Jay P. Greene's rendition of 2Cor3:7-11
7 But if the ministry of death having been engraved in letters in stone was with glory, so as that the sons of Israel could not gaze into "the face of Moses" because of the glory of his face, which was to cease, Ex. 34:34
8 how much rather the ministry of the Spirit will be in glory!
9 For if the ministry of condemnation was glory, much rather the ministry of righteousness abounds in glory.
10 For even that which has been made glorious has not been made glorious in this respect, because of the surpassing glory.
11 For if the thing done away was through glory, much rather the thing remaining is in glory.

Nice try, but he didn't come close to writing what you think. What does "done away" mean to you?

What I was addressing was your mistake - you had incorrectly attributed the 10C as the subject which had a fading glory. I did not mean that the ministry of death was not put away. I prefer "put away" because "done away" in English has a negative connotation, but Paul makes it clear in Romans 7 that he did not perceive the 10C as a negative thing.

"Ministry" means "to give a service". The service of the 10C was to make you aware of death as a result of sin. That's its glory - revealing how utterly hopeless we are. But, once the Holy Spirit comes in, it testifies that you are now dead to self and alive in Christ; the Spirit's service is to constantly illumine your mind to the life in Christ. The ministry of the 10C stops its function because it is now done.

"That's why we need no longer obey the 10C!" You misunderstand if this is what you take from it. If the Holy Spirit is ministering in your mind, "needing to obey" would be totally out of your mind because "life" would become the only focus in your mind. "Life" cannot and will not lead you at any point outside of obedience to the law of God. It's like how it's impossible to drive in a crooked path if you are truly driving in a parallel line within the lane of a straight road.

The law of God is not the faded 10 commandments, it is the law of love which the 10 are not. The 10 were about duty, there isn't any indication that they were love laws. Love laws are found in the book of the law which was written by the hand of Moses. Jesus gave His followers a new command to love other as he has loved us.

Paul wrote that love is the summary of the law.
[Romans 13:9] For the commandments, "You shall not commit adultery, You shall not murder, You shall not steal, You shall not covet," and any other commandment, are summed up in this word: "You shall love your neighbor as yourself."

As for the definition of how Paul used the phrase "law of God":

[Romans 7:7] What then shall we say? That the law is sin? By no means! Yet if it had not been for the law, I would not have known sin. For I would not have known what it is to covet if the law had not said, "You shall not covet."

[Romans 7:14] For we know that the law is spiritual, but I am of the flesh, sold under sin.

Right now, you may ask "but this just says 'law', it isn't about 'law of God'" And that's where context comes in.

[Romans 7:16] Now if I do what I do not want, I agree with the law, that it is good.
[Romans 7:18] For I know that nothing good dwells in me, that is, in my flesh. For I have the desire to do what is right, but not the ability to carry it out
[Romans 7:22] For I delight in the law of God, in my inner being,

Paul used "law of God" to mean the 10C.

I can see where you believe the remainder of Christianity does not have the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. You take the writings of your false prophet and believe everything she wrote (brainwashing) so that you have to try to distort scripture to comply with her.

Dude, you don't even know the history. When she first heard the Bible study by Joseph Bates on the Sabbath, she resisted, thinking it was a Jewish custom. The Bible study came before the vision. She was convinced of it after the vision God gave her about the Sabbath. We don't trace our belief about the Sabbath to her vision, we trace it to the Seventh day Baptists.

I do not believe others in Christendom outside the Seventh-day Adventist movement are devoid of the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. The Ethiopian Philip came across clearly only had a Bible study about Isaiah's prophecy, yet he got treated to Philip being teleported away. Peter hadn't talked much to Cornelius when the baptism of the Holy Spirit came upon Cornelius' household. Being 100% theologically correct is not the pre-requisite of having the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. Rather, the indwelling of the Holy Spirit chooses when and how certain theological truths are allowed to be grasped and understood.

If the Holy Spirit determines that it's not the right time or method, it is 100% impossible to just "get it". That's why online debates are ineffectual if the Holy Spirit is not guiding both or if the Holy Spirit determines it's not the right timing or mode yet. The only thing that is always effectual is: Does what I do bring glory to God? Will He be pleased in what I do?

For me, my conscience is clear because I am following what He's said before in Isaiah 56:6-7. I take delight in His Sabbath. I take delight in His law because I see righteousness in it; I see His character of love in the 10 Commandments.

 

[Bob S]

What I was addressing was your mistake - you had incorrectly attributed the 10C as the subject which had a fading glory. I did not mean that the ministry of death was not put away. I prefer "put away" because "done away" in English has a negative connotation, but Paul makes it clear in Romans 7 that he did not perceive the 10C as a negative thing.

"Ministry" means "to give a service". The service of the 10C was to make you aware of death as a result of sin. That's its glory - revealing how utterly hopeless we are. But, once the Holy Spirit comes in, it testifies that you are now dead to self and alive in Christ; the Spirit's service is to constantly illumine your mind to the life in Christ. The ministry of the 10C stops its function because it is now done.

"That's why we need no longer obey the 10C!" You misunderstand if this is what you take from it. If the Holy Spirit is ministering in your mind, "needing to obey" would be totally out of your mind because "life" would become the only focus in your mind. "Life" cannot and will not lead you at any point outside of obedience to the law of God. It's like how it's impossible to drive in a crooked path if you are truly driving in a parallel line within the lane of a straight road.


Paul wrote that love is the summary of the law.
[Romans 13:9] For the commandments, "You shall not commit adultery, You shall not murder, You shall not steal, You shall not covet," and any other commandment, are summed up in this word: "You shall love your neighbor as yourself."

As for the definition of how Paul used the phrase "law of God":

[Romans 7:7] What then shall we say? That the law is sin? By no means! Yet if it had not been for the law, I would not have known sin. For I would not have known what it is to covet if the law had not said, "You shall not covet."

[Romans 7:14] For we know that the law is spiritual, but I am of the flesh, sold under sin.

Right now, you may ask "but this just says 'law', it isn't about 'law of God'" And that's where context comes in.

[Romans 7:16] Now if I do what I do not want, I agree with the law, that it is good.
[Romans 7:18] For I know that nothing good dwells in me, that is, in my flesh. For I have the desire to do what is right, but not the ability to carry it out
[Romans 7:22] For I delight in the law of God, in my inner being,

Paul used "law of God" to mean the 10C.


Dude, you don't even know the history. When she first heard the Bible study by Joseph Bates on the Sabbath, she resisted, thinking it was a Jewish custom. The Bible study came before the vision. She was convinced of it after the vision God gave her about the Sabbath. We don't trace our belief about the Sabbath to her vision, we trace it to the Seventh day Baptists.

I do not believe others in Christendom outside the Seventh-day Adventist movement are devoid of the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. The Ethiopian Philip came across clearly only had a Bible study about Isaiah's prophecy, yet he got treated to Philip being teleported away. Peter hadn't talked much to Cornelius when the baptism of the Holy Spirit came upon Cornelius' household. Being 100% theologically correct is not the pre-requisite of having the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. Rather, the indwelling of the Holy Spirit chooses when and how certain theological truths are allowed to be grasped and understood.

If the Holy Spirit determines that it's not the right time or method, it is 100% impossible to just "get it". That's why online debates are ineffectual if the Holy Spirit is not guiding both or if the Holy Spirit determines it's not the right timing or mode yet. The only thing that is always effectual is: Does what I do bring glory to God? Will He be pleased in what I do?

For me, my conscience is clear because I am following what He's said before in Isaiah 56:6-7. I take delight in His Sabbath. I take delight in His law because I see righteousness in it; I see His character of love in the 10 Commandments.

What I was addressing was your mistake - you had incorrectly attributed the 10C as the subject which had a fading glory. I did not mean that the ministry of death was not put away. I prefer "put away" because "done away" in English has a negative connotation, but Paul makes it clear in Romans 7 that he did not perceive the 10C as a negative thing.

I see right off the bat that you do not have a sound grasp of English. Paul plainly wrote that the ministry that brought death was the 10cs See the WAS? Past tense I do believe. Because the ministry = 10cs and it ( the 10cs ) came with glory, people could not even look at Moses face because of the brightness because of the 10cs, Transitory (temporary) though it (10cs) WAS. There it is again WAS past tense. Those laws were part of the covenant that the Israelites failed to keep. They broke the covenant relationship. Verse 6 tells us: He has enabled us to be ministers of his new covenant. This is a covenant not of written laws, but of the Spirit. The old written covenant ends in death; but under the new covenant, the Spirit gives life. The new covenant is not like the 10cs and the book of the law. The old written covenant ended in death. The new covenant gives life. Then Paul goes on to write that the ministry of the Spirit is even more glorious. The ministry that brought condemnation (10cs) WAS (there it is again, past tense) glorious, how much more glorious is the ministry that brings righteousness! The Spirit brings righteousness. For what WAS (past tense) glorious has no glory now in comparison with the surpassing glory. 11 And if what WAS (past tense) transitory (temporary) came with glory, how much greater is the glory of that which lasts.

Romans 7 is an entirely different subject from 2Cor3. I would be glad to deal with that subject if you would like. Right now lets see what Paul really wrote in 2Cor 3 okay?

"Ministry" means "to give a service".

In the case of what Paul wrote ministry means 10cs.

The service of the 10C was to make you aware of death as a result of sin.

No my friend Paul was making us aware that the 10cs are not our guide today. We are guided by the Holy Spirit rather than 10 laws written on old cold stones of which are only a sampling of how we are to treat our fellow man. The Israelites were well aware of death because of breaking the law.

That's its glory - revealing how utterly hopeless we are. But, once the Holy Spirit comes in, it testifies that you are now dead to self and alive in Christ; the Spirit's service is to constantly illumine your mind to the life in Christ. The ministry of the 10C stops its function because it is now done.

"That's why we need no longer obey the 10C!" You misunderstand if this is what you take from it. If the Holy Spirit is ministering in your mind, "needing to obey" would be totally out of your mind because "life" would become the only focus in your mind. "Life" cannot and will not lead you at any point outside of obedience to the law of God. It's like how it's impossible to drive in a crooked path if you are truly driving in a parallel line within the lane of a straight road.

I misunderstand nothing. I, at one time, misunderstood just as you do today. You have taken a perfectly simple text and tried to contort it to fit your preconceived ideas. I serve Jesus and His better covenant. I have the perfect law that governs my life, the Royal law of love. It does mot have ritual keeping of days honoring barley, new moons and the release of a people out of Egyptian bondage. I serve the Savior every day. He is creator and redeemer. I rest in Jesus. That is what He asks of His servants and I claim His promises.

Dude, you don't even know the history. When she first heard the Bible study by Joseph Bates on the Sabbath, she resisted, thinking it was a Jewish custom. The Bible study came before the vision. She was convinced of it after the vision God gave her about the Sabbath. We don't trace our belief about the Sabbath to her vision, we trace it to the Seventh day Baptists.

First of all it would be nice if you would show some respect, I am not dude.

I didn't write that she was the one who thought up the idea, but she was the one who wrote:

It means eternal salvation to keep the Sabbath holy unto the Lord. God says: "Them that honor Me I will honor." {6T 356.4}


But if we turn aside from the fourth commandment, so positively given by God, to adopt the inventions of Satan, voiced and acted by men under his control, we cannot be saved. We cannot with safety receive his traditions and subtleties as truth. {RH, July 6, 1897 par. 4}

No one who disregards the fourth commandment, after becoming enlightened in regard to the claims of the Sabbath, can be held guiltless in the sight of God. {RH, July 6, 1897 par. 14}

All will be judged according to the light that has shone upon them. If they have light upon the Sabbath, they cannot be saved in rejecting that light.{HS 234.3}

As persons become convinced from the Scriptures that the claims of the fourth commandment are still binding, the question is often raised, Is it necessary in order to secure salvation that we keep the Sabbath? This is a question of grave importance. If the light has shone from the word of God, if the message has been presented to men, as it was to Pharaoh, and they refuse to heed that message, if they reject the light, they refuse to obey God, and cannot be saved in their disobedience. {RH, January 5, 1886 par. 2}

I do not believe others in Christendom outside the Seventh-day Adventist movement are devoid of the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. The Ethiopian Philip came across clearly only had a Bible study about Isaiah's prophecy, yet he got treated to Philip being teleported away. Peter hadn't talked much to Cornelius when the baptism of the Holy Spirit came upon Cornelius' household. Being 100% theologically correct is not the pre-requisite of having the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. Rather, the indwelling of the Holy Spirit chooses when and how certain theological truths are allowed to be grasped and understood.

Very good

If the Holy Spirit determines that it's not the right time or method, it is 100% impossible to just "get it". That's why online debates are ineffectual if the Holy Spirit is not guiding both or if the Holy Spirit determines it's not the right timing or mode yet. The only thing that is always effectual is: Does what I do bring glory to God? Will He be pleased in what I do?

According to your prophet she saw a "halo" around the Sabbath command and as you can read from her statements one cannot have eternal salvation without "keeping" Sabbath. Most all Christians have read the fourth commandment, so most Christians have made a choice not to observe it and according to the prophet we are all going to die the second death. When you became a SDA you took an oath to believe what the prophet wrote. The Holy Spirit has never prompted anyone to observe Sabbath. If that were true your church would not have to spend millions upon millions to try to convince people to observe it. Most, as you should know, do not take the bait. Finding sheep to join your ranks is not an easy task.

For me, my conscience is clear because I am following what He's said before in Isaiah 56:6-7. I take delight in His Sabbath. I take delight in His law because I see righteousness in it; I see His character of love in the 10 Commandments.

God's "character" is much, much larger than the 10 cs. Yours is a canned SDA statement that SDA preachers sling around without really thinking what it means. You all are limiting God to the 10cs? What a shame.

 

[EastCoastRemnant]

Happy Sabbath everyone!

 

[disciple1]

You quoted it as a whole, but you missed the context. In verse 12, Paul wrote: "you were at that time separated from Christ, alienated from the commonwealth of Israel and strangers to the covenants of promise, having no hope and without God in the world." What Paul wrote from verse 13-18 is to prove his point that "you (Gentiles) are no longer alienated from the covenants of promise".

Therefore, whatever Paul wrote has to be in line with that thinking and not lifted away from this context. The 10C covenant was not what alienated Gentiles from taking part in it. If you take it this way, the verses will read like this:
"...alienated... strangers to the 10C covenant and Abrahamic covenant... but now Christ Jesus... having abolished in his flesh the 10C..."
It makes no sense to the context. The point Paul was making was Jesus' role in bringing Gentiles *into* the covenants of promise because they were alienated from them.

But I understand how you can be confused since the English translation says "law of precepts in ordinances". Something you need to understand - translations don't always tell the intent behind the word in the original language. In Greek, Paul used "νομονG3551 N-ASM τωνG3588 T-GPF εντολωνG1785 N-GPF ενG1722 PREP δογμασινG1378 N-DPN". I emphasized δογμασιν because this word was used by the Jewish translators of the Tanakh to the Septuagint to mean "man-made regulations". There was no command by God that Gentiles couldn't participate; they just had to convert and become proselytes. However, during the New Testament era, the animosity against the Romans grew strong enough that Gentiles were considered dogs/unclean and that physical interaction with them made one unclean (this is why in Jesus' parable of the good Samaritan, the Levite and priest refused to help the mugged man).


The context of Paul's argument was against those who thought they could be justified by keeping the law of God. Paul wasn't writing that they aren't to be kept. God's promise with the Israelites when He gave the 10C wasn't that keeping His law would make them justified; His promise was that they would prosper. 'Prosper' and 'justified' two completely different concepts.


Context was the law of the Levitical priesthood. The law of the Levitical priesthood was not the covenant God made with them; God covenanted with them the 10C. The Levitical priesthood laws were given after the ratification of the 10C covenant. A covenant, once ratified, can't be added to. Exodus 24 was the ratification. Exodus 25 was when the various sacrificial system laws were given. The 10C covenant had nothing to do with getting rid of their sin - the sacrificial system was the shadow of that, not the 10C.

1 John chapter 1 verse 8
If anyone claims to be without sin they deceive themselves and the truth is not in them.
James chapter 2 verse 10
If anyone keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it.

 

[disciple1]

How does that square with the blessings promised in Lev 26? You have to square all scripture on a subject in order to be able to fully understand what the Lord really meant... so far, you are making God a covenant breaker with the premise you're on...

NOT ONE PERSON HAS EVER OBEYED THE LAW EXCEPT CHRIST
1 peter chapter 4
8 Above all, love each other deeply, because love covers over a multitude of sins.
galatians chapter 3 verse 12
The law is not based on faith; on the contrary, it says, "The person who does these things will live by them."

 

[EastCoastRemnant]

NOT ONE PERSON HAS EVER OBEYED THE LAW EXCEPT CHRIST
1 peter chapter 4
8 Above all, love each other deeply, because love covers over a multitude of sins.
galatians chapter 3 verse 12
The law is not based on faith; on the contrary, it says, "The person who does these things will live by them."

So then, you are saying that God gave a promise of blessings to the Israelites under false pretenses as He already knew no one could keep them? Wouldn't that mean God bore false witness?

 

[bugkiller]

So then, you are saying that God gave a promise of blessings to the Israelites under false pretenses as He already knew no one could keep them? Wouldn't that mean God bore false witness?

Nope!!!

bugkiller

 

[Bob S]

So then, you are saying that God gave a promise of blessings to the Israelites under false pretenses as He already knew no one could keep them? Wouldn't that mean God bore false witness?

The whole history of mankind was planned before the foundation of the World. Yes, God knew the Israelites would fail and have to have a Savior to cover for that failure. It was and is all part of the big plan. Someone had to rat on Jesus, someone had to convict Him of trumped up charges. God's plan is being fulfilled before our eyes. The Son has been sent and has defeated Satan and his host of fallen angels. Man has been saved from total destruction, the end is near, very near at hand.

It is time to put away foolishness and accept the simple plan of salvation. Foolishness is believing we somehow must repeat what the Israelites failed at doing. 2Cor 3 tells us we are not under the 10 commands which included the Sabbath. 1Jn 3 :23-24 tells us the commands Christians are responsible to do: And this is his command: to believe in the name of his Son, Jesus Christ, and to love one another as he commanded us. The one who keeps God’s commands lives in him, and he in them. And this is how we know that he lives in us: We know it by the Spirit he gave us. All the rituals some people go through are only a waste of time and talent. The rituals didn't help the Jews and they certainly do not help Christians. This "happy Sabbath" stuff is nothing but a coverup. I should know because I have been there and done that. My body tells me when I need rest, I don't need a command given only to the Israelite nation to tell me when to stop working. My mind tells me to worship my Creator and Savior, everyday. My relationship is top notch with Jesus and the Holy Spirit lets me know when i start to get derailed.

I shudder when all you law thumpers come up with all the excuses and twisted scriptures to try to convince the readers to place themselves under a covenant of death.

 

[disciple1]

So then, you are saying that God gave a promise of blessings to the Israelites under false pretenses as He already knew no one could keep them? Wouldn't that mean God bore false witness?

You misunderstand the law and it's purpose
Galatians chapter 3 verse 24,25,23
so the law was put in charge to lead us to Christ that we might be justified by faith, now that faith has come we are no longer under the supervision of the law, before this faith came we were held prisoners by the law locked up until faith should be revealed.
John chapter 18
37 “You are a king, then!” said Pilate.

Jesus answered, “You say that I am a king. In fact, the reason I was born and came into the world is to testify to the truth. Everyone on the side of truth listens to me.”

Romans chapter 1

28 Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done.
Maybe you should spend more time studying the bible.

 

[EastCoastRemnant]

You misunderstand the law and it's purpose
Galatians chapter 3 verse 24,25,23
so the law was put in charge to lead us to Christ that we might be justified by faith, now that faith has come we are no longer under the supervision of the law, before this faith came we were held prisoners by the law locked up until faith should be revealed.
John chapter 18
37 “You are a king, then!” said Pilate.

Jesus answered, “You say that I am a king. In fact, the reason I was born and came into the world is to testify to the truth. Everyone on the side of truth listens to me.”

Romans chapter 1

28 Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done.
Maybe you should spend more time studying the bible.

Why are you quoting NT when the subject at hand is OT...

Levitcus 26 gives the blessing and curses for obey God's commandments and statutes... if you read the blessings, you will see that they did follow and obey God to receive of the blessings promised... but when they forsook God and started worshipping other idols without repentance, they were punished as is recorded in the exile, the destruction of the temple in 70 AD and beyond to our day.

 

[disciple1]

Why are you quoting NT when the subject at hand is OT...

Levitcus 26 gives the blessing and curses for obey God's commandments and statutes... if you read the blessings, you will see that they did follow and obey God to receive of the blessings promised... but when they forsook God and started worshipping other idols without repentance, they were punished as is recorded in the exile, the destruction of the temple in 70 AD and beyond to our day.

For one in those verses it says to obey the Sabbath you've never obeyed it, it can't be obeyed. And love covers many sins.

 

[disciple1]

For one in those verses it says to obey the Sabbath you've never obeyed it, it can't be obeyed. And love covers many sins.

Exodus chapter 20 verse 10
but the seventh day is a Sabbath to tho Lord your God. On it you shall not do any work, neither you nor your son or daughter, nor your manservant or maidservant, nor your animals, nor the alien within your gates.
Exodus chapter 35 verse 3 Do not light a fire in any of your dwellings on the Sabbath day.
So if you want to follow the Sabbath you can't have your stove on or refrigerator, because that would cause people to work, or do you just want to keep a little of the Sabbath, which brings me to my original post.
Galatians chapter 3 verse 24,25,23 So the law was put in charge to lead us to Christ that we might be justified by faith now that faith has come we are no longer under the supervision of the law before this faith came we were held prisoner's by the law locked up until faith should be revealed.

 

[EastCoastRemnant]

For one in those verses it says to obey the Sabbath you've never obeyed it, it can't be obeyed. And love covers many sins.

Are you God disciple1? Do you know my walk? Do you know my relationship with the Father through Christ? Do you know what the Spirit has empowered me to do by His Grace? I suggest you work on your own walk instead of blindly criticizing mine. If you want to debate doctrine, fine, but judge not my faith that yours be not judged in like manner.

 

[EastCoastRemnant]

Exodus chapter 20 verse 10
but the seventh day is a Sabbath to tho Lord your God. On it you shall not do any work, neither you nor your son or daughter, nor your manservant or maidservant, nor your animals, nor the alien within your gates.
Exodus chapter 35 verse 3 Do not light a fire in any of your dwellings on the Sabbath day.
So if you want to follow the Sabbath you can't have your stove on or refrigerator, because that would cause people to work, or do you just want to keep a little of the Sabbath, which brings me to my original post.
Galatians chapter 3 verse 24,25,23 So the law was put in charge to lead us to Christ that we might be justified by faith now that faith has come we are no longer under the supervision of the law before this faith came we were held prisoner's by the law locked up until faith should be revealed.

You have no clue what the Sabbath is about , do you? Sad...

 

[bugkiller]

Are you God disciple1? Do you know my walk? Do you know my relationship with the Father through Christ? Do you know what the Spirit has empowered me to do by His Grace? I suggest you work on your own walk instead of blindly criticizing mine. If you want to debate doctrine, fine, but judge not my faith that yours be not judged in like manner.

Would you like to confess that you consume electricity and water on the Sabbath? Both of these are delivered on demand causing someone to work. Now you may be off grid. Are you indeed off grid or are you connected to one or more meters?

bugkiller

 

[bugkiller]

You have no clue what the Sabbath is about , do you? Sad...

Isn't it rest for your body?

bugkiller

 

[Sophrosyne]

You have no clue what the Sabbath is about , do you? Sad...

I find it ironic you say this as I've heard constant harping about worshiping on the Sabbath yet I see nowhere that it is commanded. I'm sure you will post the scripture that says "from... to" and equate that with ONLY Sabbath worship... don't bother as it proves nothing for your case.

 

[Bob S]

You have no clue what the Sabbath is about , do you? Sad...

What is truly sad is that all you otherwise great people have been so brainwashed with twisted scripture into believing a total lie. What is even sadder is that you try to convince others to yoke themselves with your twisted beliefs.

This is especially true when we read from scripture that the the ministry that brought death, 10 commandments, old covenant, given only to the Israelites were the commandments of doom. Jesus, speaking through the apostle Paul, wasn't writing that the 10 commandments have been replaced by our guide, the Holy Spirit, for fun and games, yet you choose to believe a false prophet instead of the Holy writ. The Old Testament laws are history. Christians are New Testament believers. The old is "finished". Thank you Jesus. Claim the promises.

 

[EastCoastRemnant]

What is truly sad is that all you otherwise great people have been so brainwashed with twisted scripture into believing a total lie. What is even sadder is that you try to convince others to yoke themselves with your twisted beliefs.

This is especially true when we read from scripture that the the ministry that brought death, 10 commandments, old covenant, given only to the Israelites were the commandments of doom. Jesus, speaking through the apostle Paul, wasn't writing that the 10 commandments have been replaced by our guide, the Holy Spirit, for fun and games, yet you choose to believe a false prophet instead of the Holy writ. The Old Testament laws are history. Christians are New Testament believers. The old is "finished". Thank you Jesus. Claim the promises.

Guess what Bob, the 10 Commandments still bring death... if you disobey them. They are life if you obey them through the Grace of the Spirit.