Evolution Promotes Brutality

[AV1611VET]

Did they also wear a shirt that said NATURAL FALLING?

Don't you mean: INTELLIGENT FALLING?

 

[Cute Tink]

Some interesting replies. Many good ones.

But let's look at a major aspect of Hiway 61. Savage killing is the principle factor we want to examine. Time is an element.

Evolution calls the savage killing a part of survival: "survival of the fittest".

So savage killing would be an integral part in God using Evolution as a means of bringing higher forms of life on Earth. Is this correct?

Survival doesn't necessarily require savage killing.

 

[AV1611VET]

There's a lot of savage killing commanded and performed by God in the OT.

Without which the Jews wouldn't exist today.

 

[Heissonear]

Since when?

Do you have a single reference for this claim?

Get real, Loud.

 

[46AND2]

Without which the Jews wouldn't exist today.

God was incapable of protecting them some other way? `

 

[AV1611VET]

Get real, Loud.

-- Nice play on words there.

 

[Heissonear]

There's a lot of savage killing commanded and performed by God in the OT.

Now we are getting over the target. The defenses may start coming up.

Again, has life Evolved on Earth? And is not savage killing an integral part of Evolution?

 

[AV1611VET]

God was incapable of protecting them some other way? `

He could have.

But consider this:

You go on vacation for, say, 430 days.

Coming home, you find your house inhabited by a bunch of David Koreshes, who would rather shoot you than look at the deed to your house.

You call the cops, and they try in vain to get them to vacate, and eventually a shootout occurs.

Who's side do you join?

The squatters, or the police?

 

[46AND2]

Now we are getting over the target. The defenses may start coming up.

Again, has life Evolved on Earth? And is not savage killing an integral part of Evolution?

Savage killing is a part of nature. Evolution would occur whether this was true or not.

 

[46AND2]

He could have.

But consider this:

You go on vacation for, say, 430 days.

Coming home, you find your house inhabited by a bunch of David Koreshes, who would rather shoot you than look at the deed to your house.

You call the cops, and they try in vain to get them to vacate, and a shootout occurs.

Who's side do you join?

The squatters, or the police?

It would seem, then, that it is God who promotes brutality.

 

[Loudmouth]

Get real, Loud.

Then it would appear that you are just making it up.

 

[Reasoning]

Now we are getting over the target. The defenses may start coming up.

Again, has life Evolved on Earth? And is not savage killing an integral part of Evolution?

Yes, life has evolved. What exactly is it that you mean with 'savage killing'? Because I seem to misunderstand your question I think.

 

[AV1611VET]

It would seem, then, that it is God who promotes brutality.

Wow.

Just wow.

Tell me 46, do you have a line of shirts that say POLICE BRUTALITY on them?

 

[Loudmouth]

Don't you mean: INTELLIGENT FALLING?

No, I meant NATURAL FALLING.

If you believe in natural falling, does this mean that you have to make people fall?

 

[Loudmouth]

Wow.

Just wow.

Tell me 46, do you have a line of shirts that say POLICE BRUTALITY on them?

"And Samuel said to Saul, “The Lord sent me to anoint you king over his people Israel; now therefore listen to the words of the Lord. Thus says the Lord of hosts, ‘I have noted what Amalek did to Israel in opposing them on the way when they came up out of Egypt. Now go and strike Amalek and devote to destruction all that they have. Do not spare them, but kill both man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.’” (1 Sam 15:1‑3)

 

[46AND2]

Wow.

Just wow.

Tell me 46, do you have a line of shirts that say POLICE BRUTALITY on them?

If God "could have" chosen another way to protect the Jews, but chose brutality, what else am I supposed to think?

As for your police analogy, it's rather a poor analogy in that neither I, nor the police, are not omnipotent like God, right?

 

[AV1611VET]

"And Samuel said to Saul, “The Lord sent me to anoint you king over his people Israel; now therefore listen to the words of the Lord. Thus says the Lord of hosts, ‘I have noted what Amalek did to Israel in opposing them on the way when they came up out of Egypt. Now go and strike Amalek and devote to destruction all that they have. Do not spare them, but kill both man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.’” (1 Sam 15:1‑3)

I have a feeling that if Goliath was the only one ever killed in all the Old Testament, you guys would be telling us what a homicidal maniac God is.

 

[Loudmouth]

I have a feeling that if Goliath was the only one ever killed in all the Old Testament, you guys would be telling us what a homicidal maniac God is.

So you aren't going to acknowledge what is written in the Bible?

 

[AV1611VET]

If God "could have" chosen another way to protect the Jews, but chose brutality, what else am I supposed to think?

Like what?

Sent a flood to wash the squatters away?

Or should the Jews have co-existed with them in harmony?

Would you have resolved your problem by just shrugging and saying:

"Hey, look. You squatters take the upstairs and we'll live downstairs. How's that? After all, it is my house."

Right -- they would have diced you up and put out on the curb for pickup.

 

[Reasoning]

I have a feeling that if Goliath was the only one ever killed in all the Old Testament, you guys would be telling us what a homicidal maniac God is.

Well he is definitely a maniac... He had his own son tortured and killed, in order to forgive humanity. Why didn't he just forgive humanity? He's omnipotent no? I would call people who like to torture their own son, rather vindictive and a manic.