No Time, No Age.

[ScottA]

So you agree that time is real?



Where did Einstein say that?



What I am questioning is your unsupported claim that time does not exist.

Why would Einstein say what he did not fully understand? Nevertheless, he did say what he did understand, and I commend him.

But, I did not mean to suggest that time does not exist, but rather that it is a created media "like" the times told in a created story. Also, that it is a mere would-be fact with in the fiction of the created story.

 

[ScottA]

You changed their words. That is very dishonest.

Did not.

 

[NothingIsImpossible]

Ironically non-believers talk about how the bible is flawed and science knows the truth. But every generation of scientists says that. Scientist from 10 years ago had differing views. And 10 years before that, different views. So if science is constantly changing its views on whats correct, why would I want to listen to them? Especially when the bible says what is correct and never changes? This is why I say humans are no way smart enough, nor will they ever be smart enough to know everything. Like if they can prove God is/is not real. Its impossible to. They would have to have checked every inch of space, beyond the "edge" of the universe (as they say). in every planet, in every black hole... then we get into checking every dimension and so on. Until they do that they cannot say God does not exist. And they never will be able to because we are, compared to God, simple minded people.

 

[ScottA]

Then show me the time contraction for frames of reference that differ by 0.2c.

You claim you can do the math, so let's see it.

No, no, I took his word for the math he did. But the math I did was simply to put his findings together with the truth of God. I'm a wiz like that.

 

[ScottA]

I don't know, how?

It doesn't...except within its own realm of approval.

 

[HitchSlap]

It doesn't...except within its own realm of approval.

Ok.

 

[Loudmouth]

No, no, I took his word for the math he did. But the math I did was simply to put his findings together with the truth of God. I'm a wiz like that.

So you can't do the math?

 

[ScottA]

Ironically non-believers talk about how the bible is flawed and science knows the truth. But every generation of scientists says that. Scientist from 10 years ago had differing views. And 10 years before that, different views. So if science is constantly changing its views on whats correct, why would I want to listen to them? Especially when the bible says what is correct and never changes? This is why I say humans are no way smart enough, nor will they ever be smart enough to know everything. Like if they can prove God is/is not real. Its impossible to. They would have to have checked every inch of space, beyond the "edge" of the universe (as they say). in every planet, in every black hole... then we get into checking every dimension and so on. Until they do that they cannot say God does not exist. And they never will be able to because we are, compared to God, simple minded people.

Right on. Thanks for saying so!

 

[Loudmouth]

Did not.

Einstein clearly stated that time was a part of reality. You made the exact opposite claim.

 

[HitchSlap]

Einstein clearly stated that time was a part of reality. You made the exact opposite claim.

Unfortunately, these guys read too many creo sites and end up getting their facts crossed.

 

[ScottA]

So you can't do the math?

Einstein's math? No way! He was the expert.

 

[Loudmouth]

Ironically non-believers talk about how the bible is flawed and science knows the truth.

We talk about how specific Christians are wrong about specific topics, and we back it up with evidence.

The Bible is no more flawed than any other allegorical tale. The only error is in trying to read the Bible literally, and refusing to accept facts that contradict that literal interpretation.

Scientist from 10 years ago had differing views. And 10 years before that, different views. So if science is constantly changing its views on whats correct, why would I want to listen to them?

The irony, of course, is that you want them to change their mind about creationism. On one hand, you claim that scientists aren't trustworthy because they change their mind too much. On the other hand, you claim that scientists are wrong because they won't change their mind about creationism.

The reason you ignore scientists is that they point out facts that are inconvenient to your religious beliefs.

Especially when the bible says what is correct and never changes?

The evidence contradicts a literal interpretation. A literal Bible hasn't been correct in nearly 200 years.

 

[ScottA]

Einstein clearly stated that time was a part of reality. You made the exact opposite claim.

Give him a break. He did his part.

 

[Loudmouth]

Einstein's math? No way! He was the expert.

I asked if you can do the math. Can you?

Show me the time contraction for frames of reference that differ by 0.2c.

 

[Loudmouth]

Give him a break. He did his part.

Stop lying about what Einstein said.

 

[ScottA]

Stop lying about what Einstein said.

Show everyone where I lied. Let's have it.

 

[digitalgoth]

Your method simply will not tell you anything of the one possible truth. Not finding the needle in the haystack, does not prove there is nothing there, it just proves nothing.

My method will tell me a lot about what isn't true.

 

[Loudmouth]

Show everyone where I lied. Let's have it.

Right here:
http://www.christianforums.com/threads/no-time-no-age.7928581/#post-69145526

VirOptimus said: ↑
Where have you got the idea that science says that time is an illusion?

ScottA: Einstein.

That was a lie.

 

[ScottA]

Right here:
http://www.christianforums.com/threads/no-time-no-age.7928581/#post-69145526

VirOptimus said: ↑
Where have you got the idea that science says that time is an illusion?

ScottA: Einstein.

That was a lie.

"...for us physicists believe the separation between past, present, and future is only an illusion, although a convincing one." Einstein

Whose the liar?

 

[NothingIsImpossible]

Evidence? Evidence by mere mortal men who think they know more then God. Such an old excuse. And some of the things you say now will be changed again 10 years from now when scientists say they had some things wrong yet again. Remember, science said the sun revolved around us, the earth was flat....etc. I know my side and nothing a mere mortal can say will change that. In other words some scientists have an IQ of lets say 160. God has an IQ of lets say 1,000,000,000. Who should I believe? The 160 guy or the God with 1 billion.