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Why don't protestants bless Mary?

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1:41 And it came to pass that when Elizabeth heard the salutation of Mary, the infant leaped in her womb. And Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Ghost.
1:42 And she cried out with a loud voice and said: Blessed art thou among women and blessed is the fruit of thy womb.
1:43 And whence is this to me that the mother of my Lord should come to me?
1:44 For behold as soon as the voice of thy salutation sounded in my ears, the infant in my womb leaped for joy.
1:45 And blessed art thou that hast believed, because those things shall be accomplished that were spoken to thee by the Lord.


Who is the Lord JLB?
 
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Do you agree that Jesus is God? The Bible says that Mary conceived Jesus.

Yes, the Jews had an O.T. Canon. How do you know which books are in the New Testament except through the Catholic Church, which holds that Mary is the Immaculate Mother of God and of all Humankind?

Also, is the phrase "New Testament" in the Bible?


If you have a scripture that says Mary is the mother of God, then post it.


If not, then the term "Mother of God" is a man made term from a man made organisation.
 
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If you have a scripture that says Mary is the mother of God, then post it.


If not, then the term "Mother of God" is a man made term from a man made organisation.

We believe that Jesus is God. John 20:28
 
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1:41 And it came to pass that when Elizabeth heard the salutation of Mary, the infant leaped in her womb. And Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Ghost.
1:42 And she cried out with a loud voice and said: Blessed art thou among women and blessed is the fruit of thy womb.
1:43 And whence is this to me that the mother of my Lord should come to me?
1:44 For behold as soon as the voice of thy salutation sounded in my ears, the infant in my womb leaped for joy.
1:45 And blessed art thou that hast believed, because those things shall be accomplished that were spoken to thee by the Lord.


Who is the Lord JLB?

41 And it happened, when Elizabeth heard the greeting of Mary, that the babe leaped in her womb; and Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit. 42 Then she spoke out with a loud voice and said, “Blessed are you among women, and blessed is the fruit of your womb! 43 But why is this granted to me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me? 44 For indeed, as soon as the voice of your greeting sounded in my ears, the babe leaped in my womb for joy.45 Blessed is she who believed, for there will be a fulfillment of those things which were told her from the Lord.” Luke 1:41-45



We have the Lord who told her these things, and we have my Lord, that has yet to be born, in these verse's.


The Lord who spoke to her these things is God the Father,

The Lord who is in Mary's womb is the man Jesus Christ.


JLB

 
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We believe that Jesus is God. John 20:28


Is Jesus Christ a Man who shed His blood for the sins of the world?


God is Spirit. John 4:24

That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. John 3:6


Mary gave birth to flesh.

God "BECAME" flesh. Mary gave birth to a human being, the Man Jesus Christ.


JLB
 
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So JLB if Scripture tells us that Jesus is God then who is his mother? ? Answer Mary so it is reasonable to say she is the mother of God is it not.

His Spirit is God.

His flesh is Man.

Mary gave birth to the Man, Jesus Christ.

He was the Son of God before He became flesh.


JLB
 
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Is Jesus Christ a Man who shed His blood for the sins of the world?


God is Spirit. John 4:24

That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. John 3:6


Mary gave birth to flesh.

God "BECAME" flesh. Mary gave birth to a human being, the Man Jesus Christ.


JLB

Are Jesus's Divine and Human Natures united in One Person (Jesus)?

Also, do you agree with the Scriptures that we should hold fast to the traditions, just as they were handed on, whether orally or by letter? 2 Thessalonians 2:15
 
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The Lord who is in Mary's womb is the man Jesus Christ.


JLB

and Jesus is God...so Mary is the Mother of God.....unless you subscribe to the old heresies of Monophysitism or Nestorianism (man made beliefs) you must accept that Mary is the Mother of God because it is scriptural.
 
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and Jesus is God...so Mary is the Mother of God.....unless you subscribe to the old heresies of Monophysitism or Nestorianism (man made beliefs) you must accept that Mary is the Mother of God because it is scriptural.


The Son of God became flesh, which is to say, He became a Man... a little lower than the angels.

He Himself called Himself the "Son of man", which is a reference to Adam.

Since sin entered the world through man, [Adam], therefore sin had to be removed, and righteous from the human race through Man.

12 Therefore, just as through one man sin entered the world, and death through sin, and thus death spread to all men, because all sinned. Romans 5:12

For as by one man’s disobedience many were made sinners, so also by one Man’s obedience many will be made righteous.
Romans 5:19


On the outside Jesus was a flesh and blood Man.

On the inside was the Spirit of the Lord God, which is called the Spirit of Christ.

His Spirit is God, His flesh is Man.


Mary did not give birth to His Spirit, which is the part of Him that is God.

For flesh gives birth to flesh. John 3:6


JLB
 
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The Son of God became flesh, which is to say, He became a Man... a little lower than the angels.

He Himself called Himself the "Son of man", which is a reference to Adam.

Since sin entered the world through man, [Adam], therefore sin had to be removed, and righteous from the human race through Man.

12 Therefore, just as through one man sin entered the world, and death through sin, and thus death spread to all men, because all sinned. Romans 5:12

For as by one man’s disobedience many were made sinners, so also by one Man’s obedience many will be made righteous.
Romans 5:19


On the outside Jesus was a flesh and blood Man.

On the inside was the Spirit of the Lord God, which is called the Spirit of Christ.

His Spirit is God, His flesh is Man.


Mary did not give birth to His Spirit, which is the part of Him that is God.

For flesh gives birth to flesh. John 3:6


JLB

Nestorianism.....got it.
 
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and Jesus is God...so Mary is the Mother of God.....unless you subscribe to the old heresies of Monophysitism or Nestorianism (man made beliefs) you must accept that Mary is the Mother of God because it is scriptural.
Odd how you capitalize 'Mother' as if she were a diety herself.

Should be Mary, the mother of God.
 
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Odd how you capitalize 'Mother' as if she were a diety herself.

Should be Mary, the mother of God.

Mary is not a diety. If you believe that, you are gravely mistaken.
 
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His Spirit is God.

His flesh is Man.

Mary gave birth to the Man, Jesus Christ.

He was the Son of God before He became flesh.


JLB

Jesus is only one person, and you cannot separate His spirit from the rest of Him. That would be Nestorianism, which was declared a heresy by the Church in the year 431.

http://orthodoxwiki.org/Nestorianism

A parent is parent to all of his/her child--not just the parts that came from that person. To deny that Mary is the mother of God (Jesus is the second person of the Godhood who became incarnate). To deny that Mary is the mother of God is to deny that Jesus was always divine. He did not become divine later in His life as God/Man. Referring to Mary as the Mother of God is all about protecting Christ's timeless divinity. You can't even refer to Christ as eternal God because eternity is still an expression of time, and God is outside time. Read the link above and see what both St. Cyril of Alexandria and the bishops at the Third Ecumenical Council decided.
 
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But Anglicanism didn't begin until Henry the VIII wanted a divorce
According to that logic, Roman Catholicism didn't begin until 1963 when it came up with its current views on fasting, etc. and created the New Mass.
 
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Jesus is only one person, and you cannot separate His spirit from the rest of Him. That would be Nestorianism, which was declared a heresy by the Church in the year 431.

http://orthodoxwiki.org/Nestorianism

A parent is parent to all of his/her child--not just the parts that came from that person. To deny that Mary is the mother of God (Jesus is the second person of the Godhood who became incarnate). To deny that Mary is the mother of God is to deny that Jesus was always divine. He did not become divine later in His life as God/Man. Referring to Mary as the Mother of God is all about protecting Christ's timeless divinity. You can't even refer to Christ as eternal God because eternity is still an expression of time, and God is outside time. Read the link above and see what both St. Cyril of Alexandria and the bishops at the Third Ecumenical Council decided.


Was Jesus Christ a flesh and blood Man?

The Man Jesus Christ was not Omnipresent while He was on earth in His Body.

The Spirit of Christ, is Omnipresent, as He dwelled within the Old Testament prophets, and those who are In Him today.

10 Of this salvation the prophets have inquired and searched carefully, who prophesied of the grace that would come to you, 11 searching what, or what manner of time, the Spirit of Christ who was in them was indicating when He testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ and the glories that would follow. 1 Peter 1:10-11

and again


9 But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. Now if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is not His. Romans 8:9



Are you God, because the Spirit of God dwells within you.

Are angels called God because they are the sons of God.


Jesus is the only Begotten of the Father, and is God before he became flesh.

God is Spirit.

God is not flesh.

God became flesh, in which He was made a little lower than the angels.

A little lower than the angels, means what He became was not God.

But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels, for the suffering of death crowned with glory and honor, that He, by the grace of God, might taste death for everyone. Hebrews 2:9


...was made a little lower than the angels, = flesh and blood Man.


He was both God [within] and Man [without].

That is why the scripture says -

For there is one God and one Mediator between God and men, the Man Christ Jesus, 1 Timothy 2:5


For many deceivers have gone out into the world who do not confess Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist. 2 John 1:7


Flesh gives birth to flesh.
Mary gave birth to the Man Jesus Christ.

Mary did not give birth to the Spirit of Christ.


JLB
 
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Are Jesus's Divine and Human Natures united in One Person (Jesus)?

Also, do you agree with the Scriptures that we should hold fast to the traditions, just as they were handed on, whether orally or by letter? 2 Thessalonians 2:15
Yes and again as you said it very nicely it is in Scripture
 
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Was Jesus Christ a flesh and blood Man?

The Man Jesus Christ was not Omnipresent while He was on earth in His Body.

The Spirit of Christ, is Omnipresent, as He dwelled within the Old Testament prophets, and those who are In Him today.

10 Of this salvation the prophets have inquired and searched carefully, who prophesied of the grace that would come to you, 11 searching what, or what manner of time, the Spirit of Christ who was in them was indicating when He testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ and the glories that would follow. 1 Peter 1:10-11

and again


9 But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. Now if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is not His. Romans 8:9



Are you God, because the Spirit of God dwells within you.

Are angels called God because they are the sons of God.


Jesus is the only Begotten of the Father, and is God before he became flesh.

God is Spirit.

God is not flesh.

God became flesh, in which He was made a little lower than the angels.

A little lower than the angels, means what He became was not God.

But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels, for the suffering of death crowned with glory and honor, that He, by the grace of God, might taste death for everyone. Hebrews 2:9


...was made a little lower than the angels, = flesh and blood Man.


He was both God [within] and Man [without].

That is why the scripture says -

For there is one God and one Mediator between God and men, the Man Christ Jesus, 1 Timothy 2:5


For many deceivers have gone out into the world who do not confess Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist. 2 John 1:7


Flesh gives birth to flesh.
Mary gave birth to the Man Jesus Christ.

Mary did not give birth to the Spirit of Christ.


JLB

Are Jesus's Divine and Human Natures united in One Person?
 
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