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Evolution is Not Atheistic

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Evolution is a process we can test and is not religious
until we apply the concept to untestable past events.

The thing is, the theory of evolution's predictions about the past are predictive in terms of what we should expect to see. Those predictions have been shown to be correct, to the extent that even the genetic evidence on its own would prove that evolution has occurred without any fossil evidence (despite the fact that there is a plethora of fossil evidence). The theory of evolution makes predictions and there's evidence for them. Creationism tries to avoid making predictions, but it does anyway. They're disproven frequently. Literally none of them have been shown to be true. Creationism isn't just wrong, it's wrong in a way so extreme that any person looking at it from an objective standpoint would just be really confused as to how an educated person could accept it.
 
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When you have a kazillion pieces of evidence supporting something, it doesn't matter if you have a few that don't fit.
Not actually true.

If ANY pieces don't fit, that means that the understanding to which they don't fit is incorrect, and must be rethought.

As far as evolutionary theory goes, no pieces have been found that don't fit the overall picture. Occasionally we find stuff that requires minor tinkering at the edges. Sometimes we find stuff that sheds a great deal of new light on previously unknown parts of the picture. But there are simply zero pieces that "don't fit".
 
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As far as evolutionary theory goes, no pieces have been found that don't fit the overall picture. Occasionally we find stuff that requires minor tinkering at the edges. Sometimes we find stuff that sheds a great deal of new light on previously unknown parts of the picture. But there are simply zero pieces that "don't fit".

Pretty good description of the situation. The "faults" in evolution pointed out by creationists are always either misunderstandings of the theory, or points that pose no threat to the core of the theory but do invite scientists to investigate further and discover more about the nature of the world that we live in. It's sad when someone looks at information that could benefit society and reinterprets it as a sort of "evidence" against evolution.
 
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Because perception is tricky, there are things that God would have us know. One of these is recorded in Psalm 118:8.
You are taking it by faith that the Bible is God speaking to you. You don't know it for a fact. Same for me.
 
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He could if He wanted to.
No he couldn't. People would not have understood him, and would have thought he was crazy. He would have lost all his credibility, and then no one would have paid any attention to the gospel.
 
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If ANY pieces don't fit, that means that the understanding to which they don't fit is incorrect, and must be rethought.
No, it most likely means that something statistically improbable happened with elements we don't anticipate, that if we knew, would explain the mysterious results.
 
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No, it most likely means that something statistically improbable happened with elements we don't anticipate, that if we knew, would explain the mysterious results.
No, usually it's indicative of something previously unconsidered.
 
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No, usually it's indicative of something previously unconsidered.
that's what I said in different words. my only point was that it doesn't usually overturn stuff when there is a whole lot of evidence for it.
 
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