What is Science?

[SkyWriting]

I googled it. There were hundreds of thousands of results for: "science is a way of knowing" there were hundreds of millions of results for "testing ideas". Perhaps the difference is that you say Science is a process to test and verify more then a way we live our life.

That is an excellent start for using the search engine results pages
for analysis. The second step is to look at the URL's on the results
and determine their "authority." In particular the to 10 results.


What does-- "science is a way of knowing." mean? |

Yahoo Answers https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?
hccfl.edu/.
patheos.com/blogs
sandwalk.blogspot.com/.
ngss.nsta.org/NSforCC.aspx?id=5
westlake.k12.oh.us/schools/whs/barth/.../TopicstoStudy_Ch1.pdf

One way to compare is to search for "Science"

Science www.sciencemag.org/ Science The Science family of sites is published by the nonprofit AAAS, whose mission is to advance science and serve society worldwide.
sciencenews.org/
wikipedia.org/wiki/Science
wired.com/category/science/
sciencedaily.com/ Science Daily Breaking science news and articles on global warming, extrasolar planets,

Hopefully you can see that the second search is bringing back sites
that we might call "Information Sources."

The fist search looks to be blogs, grade schools, and Yahoo answers.
"Yahoo Answers" has about the authority that it sounds like, answers
from Yahoos. Not to say they are "wrong", but all "Yahoo" answers
deserve more research.

In the second search "sciencenews.org" and "sciencedaily.com" can
be expected to provide higher quality answers to questions. Still not
absolute, but at least well monitored results.

 

[justlookinla]

Which Bible? No, I'm not here so much troubled by translation issues (though they are exist and are genuine). One, just one, of the issues of transmission and preservation that I used to develop my thinking in this area: how do we rightly tackle the question of the different existing endings to the gospel of Mark, plus regard the implications of them existing in the first place?
Chris.

The message of the bible is consistent from beginning to end. God created, man fell, God redeems.

 

[joshua 1 9]

To me "it says in the bible" would be the start of a process of verification, not the end of one.
I can't take it that everything in the bible is true and assured.

Science can be used to test and verify our understanding of the Bible. Clearly Noah's flood 4,359 years ago years ago was not a world wide flood. So science can be used to help us better understand what was going on back in Noah's time.

 

[SkyWriting]

Which Bible? No, I'm not here so much troubled by translation issues (though they are exist and are genuine). One, just one, of the issues of transmission and preservation that I used to develop my thinking in this area: how do we rightly tackle the question of the different existing endings to the gospel of Mark, plus regard the implications of them existing in the first place?
Chris.

The best practice is to judge whether one will turn a person toward Satan or not.
If not, then it shouldn't cause you too much sleep loss.
Please be specific where you are having problems, and
I'll try to help.


New International Version
For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities--his eternal power and divine nature--have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.

New Living Translation
For ever since the world was created, people have seen the earth and sky. Through everything God made, they can clearly see his invisible qualities--his eternal power and divine nature. So they have no excuse for not knowing God.

English Standard Version
For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse.

Berean Study Bible
For since the creation of the world, God's invisible qualities, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood from His workmanship, so that men are without excuse.

Berean Literal Bible
For from the creation of the world His invisible qualities, both His eternal power and divinity, are clearly seen, being understood by the things made, for them to be without excuse.

New American Standard Bible
For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse.



◄ Mark 16:9 ►

Parallel Verses
New International Version
When Jesus rose early on the first day of the week, he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom he had driven seven demons.

New Living Translation
After Jesus rose from the dead early on Sunday morning, the first person who saw him was Mary Magdalene, the woman from whom he had cast out seven demons.

English Standard Version
[[Now when he rose early on the first day of the week, he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, from whom he had cast out seven demons.

Berean Study Bible
After Jesus had risen, early on the first day of the week, He appeared first to Mary Magdalene, from whom He had driven out seven demons.

Berean Literal Bible
And having risen early the first day of the week, He appeared first to Mary Magdalene, from whom He had cast out seven demons.

New American Standard Bible
Now after He had risen early on the first day of the week, He first appeared to Mary Magdalene, from whom He had cast out seven demons.

King James Bible
Now when Jesus was risen early the first day of the week, he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom he had cast seven devils.

Holman Christian Standard Bible
Early on the first day of the week, after He had risen, He appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom He had driven seven demons.

International Standard Version
After Jesus had risen early on the first day of that week, he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, from whom he had driven out seven demons.

NET Bible
[[Early on the first day of the week, after he arose, he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, from whom he had driven out seven demons.

Aramaic Bible in Plain English
But at dawn, on the first day of the week, he arose and appeared first to Maryam Magdalitha, from whom he had cast out seven demons.

GOD'S WORD® Translation
After Jesus came back to life early on Sunday, he appeared first to Mary from Magdala, from whom he had forced out seven demons.

New American Standard 1977
[Now after He had risen early on the first day of the week, He first appeared to Mary Magdalene, from whom He had cast out seven demons.

Jubilee Bible 2000
Now as Jesus rose early the first of the sabbaths, he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom he had cast seven devils.

King James 2000 Bible
Now when Jesus was risen early the first day of the week, he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom he had cast seven demons.

American King James Version
Now when Jesus was risen early the first day of the week, he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom he had cast seven devils.

American Standard Version
Now when he was risen early on the first day of the week, he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, from whom he had cast out seven demons.

Douay-Rheims Bible
But he rising early the first day of the week, appeared first to Mary Magdalen, out of whom he had cast seven devils.

Darby Bible Translation
Now when he had risen very early, the first [day] of the week, he appeared first to Mary of Magdala, out of whom he had cast seven demons.

English Revised Version
Now when he was risen early on the first day of the week, he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, from whom he had cast out seven devils.

Webster's Bible Translation
Now when Jesus was risen early, the first day of the week, he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom he had cast seven demons.

Weymouth New Testament
But He rose to life early on the first day of the week, and appeared first to Mary of Magdala from whom He had expelled seven demons.

World English Bible
Now when he had risen early on the first day of the week, he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, from whom he had cast out seven demons.

Young's Literal Translation
And he, having risen in the morning of the first of the sabbaths, did appear first to Mary the Magdalene, out of whom he had cast seven demons;

 

[katerinah1947]

Most scientists would say that "science is a way of knowing".

Hi,

Biblically, science is subduing the earth. That is part of the Blessing of God to all mankind. It is to be found in Genesis 1:28.

Being in science from 1969, your words describing science, I have personally never seen, nor heard of. I am sorry.

Also, for references Biblically on me and science, it is through the normal way science is done that I came to God.

Science uses many many many methods. One is of study, study, study, observe, observe, observe, then take a personal guess on what you think is the answer, then try and prove that guess wrong.

That is done repeatedly, until either you and no one else can prove your guess wrong, or you run out of guesses or you quit for some reason or another.

A way of knowing, sounds like the attacks against Gnosticism, or maybe a statement of the Gnostic Religion, which has failed when I put it to the test, based upon other tested items.

The Bible is a tested item, in my world. The five controlled experiments, came out just one way.

Proofs, that others can do who are qualified, are also used in the sciences. That means really, if you know what you are doing, and repeat what I or any other scientist has proven, you will get the same answer as I or they got, and. And you will then only, understand what is is that I or they said is true.

The last part is important. Even I have to have in college, or in life, or in my job, do every item as an experiment that I am going to use in my research, ( called science also), in order to do anything in science, or else I cannot use that in my work.

Yes, no assumptions are allowed, nor is any lack of understanding allowed, and virtually all of it, is a solo effort in the final analysis, if anything is truly a solo effort with God, and none is.

LOVE,

 

[Jimmy D]

Close but no cigar. Everything in the Bible is accurate and true. OF course Science can not confirm everything because Science is not able to be used to that extent. But as much as science is able, science confirms the Bible to be accurate and true.

Science is unable to be used to determine if serpents (is that better AV?) are capable of human speech?

 

[joshua 1 9]

Science is unable to be used to determine if serpents (is that better AV?) are capable of human speech?

When you communicate with animals you do not usually use your vocal cords. Unless your yelling at your dog and trying to get their attention or something like that.

 

[AV1611VET]

Science is unable to be used to determine if serpents (is that better AV?) are capable of human speech?

 

[bhsmte]

When you communicate with animals you do not usually use your vocal cords. Unless your yelling at your dog and trying to get their attention or something like that.

You didn't answer his question.

 

[joshua 1 9]

You didn't answer his question.

What question do you want answered? Every now and then I have whole conversations with people, even total strangers and we never say a word. I have conversations with animals and we never say a word.

 

[bhsmte]

What question do you want answered?

The one in the post, you didn't answer.

Science is unable to be used to determine if serpents (is that better AV?) are capable of human speech?

 

[katerinah1947]

What question do you want answered? Every now and then I have whole conversations with people, even total strangers and we never say a word. I have conversations with animals and we never say a word.

Hi,

Fascinating. One day, in 'Glawstuh" Masssacheusetts, but spelled Glouchester, I perchanced upon a girl waliking down the street in the winter time. I picked her up. Soon, I said not a word, but we talked and talked. She talked, I did not have to, I just thought.

I cannot and could not know what she was thinking, but she knew every word it seemed, that I was thinking.

Is that what you mean, or is is it you with your heart, feel and hear what the animal is saying, or the person is saying?

LOVE,

 

[katerinah1947]

What question do you want answered? Every now and then I have whole conversations with people, even total strangers and we never say a word. I have conversations with animals and we never say a word.

Hi,

I have heard people say, cats cannot know what you are saying.

One day, a cat who has been been giving me a hard time, I was fed up with. He would make noises to get me to come into the garage, and each time I did, he would not spend time with me.

This went on for two weeks or so. A door is between the house and the garage. On the day, I will talk about, the cat does his thing, and in a normal speaking voice, many feet away from the door I start to talk.

"I am going to come out there. If you don't hang with me for the entire time that I am out there, I will never respond to you again."

I was rather frustrated with this cat. I got up, went to the door, this time the cat near the other door in the garage did not disappear. I spent 45 minutes with the cat, thanked him, and then went back inside.

I did this again, and from that point on, I knew the cat knew everything that I was saying. There is much more. The other cat, since I knew cats do understand what I say, I switched roles of who was top cat, verbally. I used normal logic and reasoning.

Soon it was done, but I did not like that, so I switched them back. Somehow the way they had it in the first place was the best way for them, even though it drove me up the wall, because I don't like fights, cat fights.

I cannot know and do not know what others are thinking or feeling, unless God opens them up to me for a purpose. Can you read, or hear the thoughts of others???

LOVE,

 

[bhsmte]

Close but no cigar. Everything in the Bible is accurate and true. OF course Science can not confirm everything because Science is not able to be used to that extent. But as much as science is able, science confirms the Bible to be accurate and true. So we just fill in the pieces and assume everything else is true in the Bible. Because no one has ever proven the Bible NOT to be accurate and true in the 3500 years sense it was written. Of course Science is shown to be not true all the time. They consider that to be a part of the process. In religion our understanding is not always accurate. The Bible itself has always shown itself to be beyond reproach. Even God watches over the Word of God to perform it. That is why we as Christians have to be very careful what we say. Because God is watching over our words to make sure what we say proves to be true. We are told that: "God, who gives life to the dead and calls into being that which does not exist." Science can test the word, Jesus is the Word of God that became Flesh. He lived as an example for us to follow. So we know how to live our life.

Still making this claim I see.

When asked before, to use "scientific evidence" to support things like; biblical creation and the flood, you seemed to struggle quite a bit.

 

[joshua 1 9]

I cannot know and do not know what others are thinking or feeling, unless God opens them up to me for a purpose. Can you read, or hear the thoughts of others???

Yes only God can examine and know people. If He tell us He lets them know. He does not talk about people behind their back.

 

[joshua 1 9]

Still making this claim I see.

When asked before, to use "scientific evidence" to support things like; biblical creation and the flood, you seemed to struggle quite a bit.

Noah's flood had to have been local in the Tigris Euphrates River valley. I have studied the Bible and this is no contradiction between Science and the Bible. Clearly the traditional world wide flood has been proven not to be true. Anywhere you go in the world your going to find evidence for a flood, but the date does not always line up with Noah's flood.

Why would I stop making this claim. Not one person has give me scientific evidence that contradicts the Bible in any substantial way. At least not to the degree that Science contradicts the traditional understanding of Noah's flood being world wide. If the Bible were not true then Science would be able to show that it is not true. As it is Science shows that the Bible is accurate and true beyond any doubts. Science does cause us to question some of our traditions. But Jesus clearly teaches to be careful of the traditions of man. So we can expect those man made traditions to be questionable.

 

[bhsmte]

Noah's flood had to have been local in the Tigris Euphrates River valley. I have studied the Bible and this is no contradiction between Science and the Bible. Clearly the traditional world wide flood has been proven not to be true. Anywhere you go in the world your going to find evidence for a flood, but the date does not always line up with Noah's flood.

Why would I stop making this claim. Not one person has give me scientific evidence that contradicts the Bible in any substantial way. At least not to the degree that Science contradicts the traditional understanding of Noah's flood being world wide. If the Bible were not true then Science would be able to show that it is not true. As it is Science shows that the Bible is accurate and true beyond any doubts.

Plants before the sun is pretty contradictory, don't you think?

And how much water does the bible claim their was during the flood?

 

[katerinah1947]

Yes only God can examine and know people. If He tell us He lets them know. He does not talk about people behind their back.

Hi,

So Dear Joshua, then do you know what I know about you? And, no this is not a test. I did ask about you. The answer was visual and now a feeling, but it is not as clear nor as strong as I would like it to be. Still, I know what you are....I think.

LOVE,
...Mary Katie., .... .

 

[joshua 1 9]

Plants before the sun is pretty contradictory, don't you think?

If you search Genesis ch 1 the word "Sun" and the word "Plants" is not in there at all. Would you like to try again to explain to me what the Bible says, using words that are actually in the Bible?

And how much water does the bible claim their was during the flood?

Enough water to go over the top of the mountains and hills that line the Tigris Euphrates river valley. The real world wide flood took place back at Pangaea when the super continent was broken up and the dinosaurs were destroyed. The God froze the water. The glacier era ended about 13,000 years ago and that was when we had an extinction and a population explosion or radiation. That is when the era we live in now began. I am a dispensationalist where a day is 1,000 years. Also a day is a very long age or era. Both are true because God is the same and He continues to do things the same way He always has. He does not change. The universal laws do not change. His plan is to restore creation back to His original plan and purpose. It took Him 7,000 years to create the world we live in and then because of Adam and Eve creation fell away from God. His plan of restoration or recreation is going to take 7,000 years also. We have around 1,000 years more to go. The 1,000 year reign of Christ is a time when man will rest from his works. The way God rested for a day after He created the world we now live in.

 

[joshua 1 9]

Hi,

So Dear Joshua, then do you know what I know about you? And, no this is not a test. I did ask about you. The answer was visual and now a feeling, but it is not as clear nor as strong as I would like it to be. Still, I know what you are....I think.

LOVE,
...Mary Katie., .... .

I think what your talking about here is more of a universal consciousness. One book I read a long time ago called it a cosmic consciousness. Science has only done a few experiments but what they have found is very interesting. Still Science has a long way to go to catch up with religion on this one. The Bible says we are to have the Mind of Christ, we are to be of one Mind and One Accord. We are to have the Divine thoughts of God.