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If you Love Me - KEEP My Commandments

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Isa 66:22 For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain.
Isa 66:23 And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD.
Isa 66:24 And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcases of the men that have transgressed/1 John 3:4 against me: for their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched; and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh.

Zec 14:16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.
Zec 14:17 And it shall be, that whoso will not come up of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain.
Zec 14:18 And if the family of Egypt go not up, and come not, that have no rain; there shall be the plague, wherewith the LORD will smite the heathen that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.
Zec 14:19 This shall be the punishment of Egypt, and the punishment of all nations that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.
Zec 14:20 In that day shall there be upon the bells of the horses, HOLINESS UNTO THE LORD; and the pots in the LORD'S house shall be like the bowls before the altar.
Zec 14:21 Yea, every pot in Jerusalem and in Judah shall be holiness unto the LORD of hosts: and all they that sacrifice shall come and take of them, and seethe therein: and in that day there shall be no more the Canaanite in the house of the LORD of hosts.
 
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The house if Israel and the house of Judah isn't gentiles, using this scripture alone doesn't allow Gentiles to participate one has to read what Paul wrote regarding it all, God went first to Israel then after the cross offered the Gentiles the New Covenant while they were NOT part of Israel. In other words you are trying to put the cart before the horse unless you have this faulty notion one is grafted into Israel by faith in Jesus.

Once Gentiles

H1471
גֹּי גּוֹי
gôy gôy
go'ee, go'-ee
Apparently from the same root as H1465 (in the sense of massing); a foreign nation; hence a Gentile; also (figuratively) a troop of animals, or a flight of locusts: - Gentile, heathen, nation, people.
1482. ethnikos Cognate: 1482ethnikós(from 1484/éthnos, "nation") – Gentile; heathen, usually referring to non-Israelites; a pagan, a "non-covenant person," standing outside God's covenant (salvation). See 1484(ethnos).
Joe 3:17 So shall ye know that I am the LORD your God dwelling in Zion, my holy mountain: then shall Jerusalem be holy, and there shall no strangers pass through her any more.
Isa 52:1 Awake, awake; put on thy strength, O Zion; put on thy beautiful garments, O Jerusalem, the holy city: for henceforth there shall no more come into thee the uncircumcised and the unclean.
Eph 2:11 Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands;
Eph 2:12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:
Eph 2:13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.
Eph 2:14 For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us.
In a lot of Bible the head-line for Isaiah 56 is SALVATION OF THE GENTILES.
Here is what it says about the Gentiles who join themselves to the people of God.
Isa 56:1 Thus saith the LORD, Keep ye judgment, and do justice: for my salvation is near to come, and my righteousness to be revealed.
Isa 56:2 Blessed is the man that doeth this, and the son of man that layeth hold on it; that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and keepeth his hand from doing any evil.
Isa 56:6 Also the sons of the stranger, that join themselves to the LORD, to serve him, and to love the name of the LORD, to be his servants, every one that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and taketh hold of my covenant;
Isa 56:7 Even them will I bring to my holy mountain, and make them joyful in my house of prayer: their burnt offerings and their sacrifices shall be accepted upon mine altar; for mine house shall be called an house of prayer for all people.
Isa 56:8 The Lord GOD which gathereth the outcasts of Israel saith, Yet will I gather others to him, beside those that are gathered unto him.
Like I said in my last article: Now in this verse: The Lord GOD which gathereth the outcasts of Israel saith, Yet will I gather others to him, beside those that are gathered unto him.
Yeshua calls them thee other sheep in:
Joh 10:16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.
& again it speaks of this shepherd Yeshua in saying:
Eze 37:22 And I will make them one nation in the land upon the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king to them all: and they shall be no more two nations, neither shall they be divided into two kingdoms any more at all:
Eze 37:23 Neither shall they defile themselves any more with their idols, nor with their detestable things, nor with any of their transgressions: but I will save them out of all their dwellingplaces, wherein they have sinned, and will cleanse them: so shall they be my people, and I will be their God.
Eze 37:24 (And David my servant shall be king over them; and they all shall have one shepherd: they shall also walk in my judgments, and observe my statutes, and do them.)
The way we walk in his (judgments & statues) is:
Eze 36:26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.
Eze 36:27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.
& for this Paul concludes:
Rom 8:4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
As I clearly pointed out above Gentiles will not pass thru Jerusalem, speaking of the New Jerusalem, Gentiles in the strong's are Heathen nations not in covenant with the God of Israel Yehowah.
TPaul speaks of the olive tree which Israel was called: in
Jer_11:16 The LORD called thy name, A green olive tree, fair, and of goodly fruit: with the noise of a great tumult he hath kindled fire upon it, and the branches of it are broken.
Paul speaks of it in Romans 11.

Rom 11:16 For if the firstfruit be holy, the lump is also holy: and if the root be holy, so are the branches.
Rom 11:17 And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert graffed in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree;
Rom 11:18 Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee.
Rom 11:19 Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be graffed in.
Rom 11:20 Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:
Rom 11:21 For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.
Rom 11:22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.
Rom 11:23 And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in again.
Rom 11:24 For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert graffed contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be graffed into their own olive tree?
Rom 11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
Rom 11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
Rom 11:27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.

In the Torah there are many things which would cut one off, the point here is that we who join ourselves to Yehowah, are no longer Gentiles/Heathen separated from the covenants of God, but are brought near by the blood of Yeshua, & are called to walk in obedience.
To call yourself a Gentile is not a good thing.
We're joined to Israel, whoever of the former Gentiles join to Yehowah, & keep his Sabbaths & hold to his covenants.
Eze 47:21 So shall ye divide this land unto you according to the tribes of Israel.
Eze 47:22 And it shall come to pass, that ye shall divide it by lot for an inheritance unto you, and to the strangers that sojourn among you, which shall beget children among you: and they shall be unto you as born in the country among the children of Israel; they shall have inheritance with you among the tribes of Israel.
Eze 47:23 And it shall come to pass, that in what tribe the stranger sojourneth, there shall ye give him his inheritance, saith the Lord GOD.
There're only 12 gates, which will you go thru?
Rev 21:12 And had a wall great and high, and had twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels, and names written thereon, which are the names of the twelve tribes of the children of Israel:
◄ 1 Corinthians 12:2 ►
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Ye know that ye were Gentiles, carried away unto these dumb idols, even as ye were led.
 
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Eze 36:26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.
Eze 36:27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.


Rom 8:4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
Rom 8:5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.
Rom 8:6 For to be carnally/fleshy minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
Rom 8:7 Because the carnal/fleshy mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
Rom 8:8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.

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ὑποτάσσω
hupotassō
hoop-ot-as'-so
From G5259 and G5021; to subordinate; reflexively to obey: - be under obedience (obedient), put under, subdue unto, (be, make) subject (to, unto), be (put) in subjection (to, under), submit self unto.

Isa 48:18 O that thou hadst hearkened to my commandments! then had thy peace been as a river, and thy righteousness as the waves of the sea:
So is it by the Spirit you observe the Sabbath, or the flesh? Is the Sabbath not a day that is to be observed and obeyed by ceasing from physical work? Is that not of the flesh? I actually do obey the Sabbath because Christ fulfilled it (and the entire law) on my behalf, and by his spirit I have faith in him, receiving the righteousness and promises God gave to Abraham.

Btw, posting a ton of scriptures doesn't make you right, because you ignore the context and Paul who wrote extensively on these issues.
 
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You ignore Peters warning of those who twists Paul's letters into lawlessness, you also ignore Paul's warning about the Lawless one in 2 Thessalonians 2. You also ignore Yeshua's words, whom you claim to follow, who said he did not come to do way with the law, you also ignore what scripture says sin is, you also ignore the very fact that the sabbaths & feast were kept by the Nazarene followers of Yeshua, you also ignore that they will be kept in the new heaven, you also ignore that the Torah will go forth from mount Zion & the word of Yehowah from Jerusalem in the latter days Micah 4:2, I am done here.
 
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Okay, when someone breaks the Sabbath do you put them to death as God commanded? Also, who is God speaking to here? Israel, the Church, both, maybe all mankind?


Colossians 2:13-17
And you, who were dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, God made alive together with him, having forgiven us all our trespasses, canceling the record of debt that stood against us with its legal demands. This he set aside, nailing it to the cross. He disarmed the rulers and authorities and put them to open shame, by triumphing over them in him. Therefore let no one pass judgment on you in questions of food and drink, or with regard to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath. These are a shadow of the things to come, but the substance belongs to Christ.
The context of Colossians is that Paul is speaking to the "lost tribes" that were scattered throughout the Mesopotamian region; one of those regions being Colossia. In which case Paul is telling them 'Don't worry about what the pagans think of your new found belief. At this time(as it is today) there was much division among the brothers and the religious establishment. In fact Peter touches on it; 2Pe 3:16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction. Its "Legal demands" are nothing more then the man-made traditions imposed on the modern-day peoples. In other words the "Tradition of the elders" or Dogma. Certainly you don't believe that Fathers set-apart instructions are opposed to us?
Psa 19:7 The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple.
Psa 19:8 The statutes of the LORD are right, rejoicing the heart: the commandment of the LORD is pure, enlightening the eyes.
 
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The house if Israel and the house of Judah isn't gentiles, using this scripture alone doesn't allow Gentiles to participate one has to read what Paul wrote regarding it all, God went first to Israel then after the cross offered the Gentiles the New Covenant while they were NOT part of Israel. In other words you are trying to put the cart before the horse unless you have this faulty notion one is grafted into Israel by faith in Jesus.
The house if Israel and the house of Judah isn't gentiles, using this scripture alone doesn't allow Gentiles to participate one has to read what Paul wrote regarding it all, God went first to Israel then after the cross offered the Gentiles the New Covenant while they were NOT part of Israel. In other words you are trying to put the cart before the horse unless you have this faulty notion one is grafted into Israel by faith in Jesus.
What great gentile is Deuteronomy 4:6 speaking of?
 
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Well, I can tell you all right now that I am righteous before the Lord, not because of what I do--but because of what he has done for me. If you think the law gets you somewhere before God-- you are right, it gets you into his wrath-- because neither you nor anyone but Jesus has ever kept the law to the degree it was mean't to be kept.
 
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Galatians 5:4-6
You are severed from Christ, you who would be justified by the law; you have fallen away from grace. For through the Spirit, by faith, we ourselves eagerly wait for the hope of righteousness. For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision counts for anything, but only faith working through love.
 
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Love for God includes keeping God's Commandments as we are told in 1John 5:1-4. Inseparable.

If you are going to post this passage of scripture, be honest and provide the text from chapter 3 which defines the commandments in the passage.

Otherwise some might think you are attempting to twist God's Word to promote your Sabbath viewpoint.



1Jn 3:21 Beloved, if our heart condemn us not, then have we confidence toward God.

1Jn 3:22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight.

1Jn 3:23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.

1Jn 3:24 And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.
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1Jn 5:1 Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him.

1Jn 5:2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.

1Jn 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

1Jn 5:4 For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith.
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You ignore Peters warning of those who twists Paul's letters into lawlessness, you also ignore Paul's warning about the Lawless one in 2 Thessalonians 2. You also ignore Yeshua's words, whom you claim to follow, who said he did not come to do way with the law, you also ignore what scripture says sin is, you also ignore the very fact that the sabbaths & feast were kept by the Nazarene followers of Yeshua, you also ignore that they will be kept in the new heaven, you also ignore that the Torah will go forth from mount Zion & the word of Yehowah from Jerusalem in the latter days Micah 4:2, I am done here.
Well, I can tell you all right now that I am righteous before the Lord, not because of what I do--but because of what he has done for me. If you think the law gets you somewhere before God-- you are right, it gets you into his wrath-- because neither you nor anyone but Jesus has ever kept the law to the degree it was mean't to be kept.
Can you show me in the scriptures where obedience to the WORD brings wrath?
 
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I am no Gentile Heathen, But an Israelite Nazarene in the WAY of Yehowah the Ancient Paths where I will find rest for my soul, the church has been blinding people for too long, shepherds who feed the sheep watered down messages & lawlessness, Yehowah said in his word he would raise up shepherds/pastors who would feed them with knowldge according to his heart, first letter & last letter of the Torah 5 Books of Moshe spell out Leb which =Heart. Shalom.


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Can you show me in the scriptures where obedience to the WORD brings wrath?
Ahh! Can you prove to me that you are actually obedient? If God were to judge your words, heart, and actions right now, would he find you worthy?
 
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Ahh! Can you prove to me that you are actually obedient? If God were to judge your words, heart, and actions right now, would he find you worthy?
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Ahh! Can you prove to me that you are actually obedient? If God were to judge your words, heart, and actions right now, would he find you worthy?
Luk 1:5 There was in the days of Herod, the king of Judaea, a certain priest named Zacharias, of the course of Abia: and his wife was of the daughters of Aaron, and her name was Elisabeth.
Luk 1:6 And they were both righteous before God, walking in all the commandments and ordinances of the Lord blameless.
TE] How are they blameless? This is before Messiah died!
 
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Who has a right to the tree of life?
Those who wash their robes in the blood and righteousness of Christ. God's elect: Those redeemed by Christ who have the spirit of God. It certainly isn't those who try to keep the law!
 
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Those who wash their robes in the blood and righteousness of Christ. God's elect: Those redeemed by Christ who have the spirit of God. It certainly isn't those who try to keep the law!
Rev 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. What commandments? whose commandments?
 
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Rev 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. What commandments? whose commandments?
Exactly which ones are a concern to you?
 
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Have you thought through your reasoning? You could say the same about fornication. Is not the command not to fornicate obeyed by ceasing from touching forbidden flesh and keeping down the sinful eye of the flesh? The Sabbath also restricts doing one's own fleshly desires. What you are saying make no sense and sounds like semi-gnosticism.

We have to put to death the [sinful] deeds of the body through the Spirit.

"But I discipline my body and keep it under control, lest after preaching to others I myself should be disqualified." (1 Corinthians 9:27 ESV)

"For if you live according to the flesh you will die, but if by the Spirit you put to death the deeds of the body, you will live." (Romans 8:13 ESV)

Abstaining from every sin involves something to do with flesh. Flesh and physical matter are not sinful in and of themselves. The resurrection is a one of literal flesh bodies only they are glorified and immortal.

The Law is spiritual (Romans 7:14). The Law was given by the Spirit of God:

"And he gave to Moses, when he had finished speaking with him on Mount Sinai, the two tablets of the testimony, tablets of stone, written with the finger of God." (Exodus 31:18 ESV)

The same Spirit through which Jesus cast out the demons, UNCLEAN spirits:

"But if it is by the finger of God that I cast out demons, then the kingdom of God has come upon you." (Luke 11:20 ESV)

"But if it is by the Spirit of God that I cast out demons, then the kingdom of God has come upon you." (Matthew 12:28 ESV)

The Law is of the Spirit, not the flesh. It is a divine Law, not a fleshly Law. And this is why the Spirit leads man to obey it like was quoted already:

Eze 36:26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.
Eze 36:27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.
I rest on the sabbath, I rest from commerce.
 
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