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Moral Argument Syllogism

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The second premise of a particular formulation of the moral argument for the existence of God reads,

2. Objective moral values and duties exist.

In this thread we will give those indignant and concerned men who object to God sending a flood, a chance to explain what grounds they have for maintaining that it is objectively wrong to cause babies to die by being overtaken by a flood.
 

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Define "objective moral values."
Ask the men in the other thread who kept talking about babies drowning and unborn babies dying and six year old girls drowning. They are atheists talking about these things. Maybe you will listen to them since you are also an atheist. Don't ask me. Ask them.
 
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I'm asking you in this thread...I didn't read your other thread.

It's your premise...explain it already.
Ask them. I'm not an atheist. They are. You may be more inclined to listen to them for they are smarter and more bright than I am. I am just an ignorant man.

Ask the smart people. Ask your fellow atheists.
 
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Ask the men in the other thread who kept talking about babies drowning and unborn babies dying and six year old girls drowning. They are atheists talking about these things. Maybe you will listen to them since you are also an atheist. Don't ask me. Ask them.
I'm asking you what you mean by "objective moral values and duties" since you raised it as the second premise of the moral argument.
 
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Ask them. I'm not an atheist. They are. You may be more inclined to listen to them for they are smarter and more bright than I am. I am just an ignorant man.

Ask the smart people. Ask your fellow atheists.

It's your thread...

Why would you not address the premise of your own thread?

Trust me, the moment they make a thread claiming that objective morals exist I'll ask them the same question.
 
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It's your thread...

Why would you not address the premise of your own thread?

Trust me, the moment they make a thread claiming that objective morals exist I'll ask them the same question.
It won't matter in the long run, I think... this thread is clearly GA and will likely face closure.
 
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I'm asking you what you mean by "objective moral values and duties" since you raised it as the second premise of the moral argument.
Ask them. See if you get an answer. I don't know why on earth they wouldn't answer you. They had no problem over in the other thread condemning certain actions ad objectively wrong.
 
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It won't matter in the long run, I think... this thread is clearly GA and will likely face closure.

Lol who does that?

"Here's a premise I'd like to discuss in this thread"

"I challenge your premise!"

"Whoa...I don't want to talk about it, ask someone else."
 
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Ask them. See if you get an answer. I don't know why on earth they wouldn't answer you. They had no problem over in the other thread condemning certain actions ad objectively wrong.

If you're not willing to address the premise you put forth in this thread, you should probably just ask a mod to remove it.
 
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It's your thread...

Why would you not address the premise of your own thread?

Trust me, the moment they make a thread claiming that objective morals exist I'll ask them the same question.
They will be over here shortly with their banners and pickets saying "no more drowning of babies!"

Ask them when they get here.
 
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That´s great. Each time you can´t defend your position you just create a new thread and move the goalposts? Not to say that that´s morally wrong...
The second premise of a particular formulation of the moral argument for the existence of God reads,
2. Objective moral values and duties exist.
Genocide being among them, by any chance?

In this thread we will give those indignant and concerned men who object to God sending a flood, a chance to explain what grounds they have for maintaining that it is objectively wrong to cause babies to die by being overtaken by a flood.
I haven´t seen many there saying it was objectively wrong. Have you?
 
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They will be over here shortly with their banners and pickets saying "no more drowning of babies!"

Ask them when they get here.

Well until then let's pretend that you created a thread based upon a premise ...

Do you believe in objective morals?
 
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