Ok. That's why I need the super hero atheists to come and save the day with their superhero powers of knowledge and weapons of science.I don't think you can...
Your inability in this thread speaks volumes.
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Ok. That's why I need the super hero atheists to come and save the day with their superhero powers of knowledge and weapons of science.I don't think you can...
Your inability in this thread speaks volumes.
Hmm. Since it´s a pretty universal agreement (minus some religious crackpots who advocate it just because otherwise their theology would implode) that drowning kids adn comitting genocide in general is abhorrent, I don´t seem to be in need of an "objective" reason.Ask the men in the other thread who kept talking about babies drowning and unborn babies dying and six year old girls drowning. They are atheists talking about these things. Maybe you will listen to them since you are also an atheist. Don't ask me. Ask them.
Mark does. Ask him why.Well until then let's pretend that you created a thread based upon a premise ...
Do you believe in objective morals?
Your opinion counts for nothing here. Nor do you think drowning babies is objectively wrong, so we will wait for the other atheists to arrive that actually have a position to defend.Hmm. Since it´s a pretty universal agreement (minus some religious crackpots who advocate it just because otherwise their theology would implode) that drowning kids adn comitting genocide in general is abhorrent, I don´t seem to be in need of an "objective" reason.
You just go ahead and drown a kid "because God commanded me to" and see where it gets you.
Mark does. Ask him why.
Cohorts?So you don't think your atheist cohorts can answer your questions?
Then what does Mark say are his grounds for maintaining that something like the drowning of a child is objectively wrong?I already know Mark's beliefs on morality....and quatona's.
Im asking you.
Of course it does. It counts just as much as anybody else´s.Your opinion counts for nothing here.
Who were those other atheists who claimed it was objectively wrong?Nor do you think drowning babies is objectively wrong, so we will wait for the other atheists to arrive that actually have a position to defend.
Then what does Mark say are his grounds for maintaining that something like the drowning of a child is objectively wrong?
I will give your comrades time to wake up. I will return and expect to see everyone that was over in my other thread in here telling me why what God did was objectively wrong.
If they can't then they will need to tell me why their opinion should be my moral standard.
How about you return to that thread and address all the questions you have ignored or evaded before you go about ignoring and evading questions here.Your opinion counts for nothing here. Nor do you think drowning babies is objectively wrong, so we will wait for the other atheists to arrive that actually have a position to defend.
Comrades?I will give your comrades time to wake up.
Who were those who said it was objectively wrong?I will return and expect to see everyone that was over in my other thread in here telling me why what God did was objectively wrong.
There is no way to convince sociopaths (or persons who take a sociopath´s position playing devil´s advocate).If they can't then they will need to tell me why their opinion should be my moral standard.
What are your grounds for saying so? You have none, yet you want to pretend that you're standing on the moral high ground here.Then what does Mark say are his grounds for maintaining that something like the drowning of a child is objectively wrong?
What are your grounds for saying so? You have none, yet you want to pretend that you're standing on the moral high ground here.
The second premise of a particular formulation of the moral argument for the existence of God reads,
2. Objective moral values and duties exist.
In this thread we will give those indignant and concerned men who object to God sending a flood, a chance to explain what grounds they have for maintaining that it is objectively wrong to cause babies to die by being overtaken by a flood.
Ask them. I'm not an atheist. They are. You may be more inclined to listen to them for they are smarter and more bright than I am. I am just an ignorant man.
Ask the smart people. Ask your fellow atheists.