How much longer?

[Crowns&Laurels]

If you want to know what an atheist is you ask an atheist. You do not go to a dictionary written largely by Christians. Would you go to a Muslim for a definition of what a Christian is?

The religious have the capacity to be neutral and objective. It is not something exclusive to atheists. In fact, they have the capacity to be very biased as well.

Have you picked a dictionary lately whose definition of 'Christianity' is 'the one true religion of God'? Can't seem to find that one anywhere.

 

[Crowns&Laurels]

How much longer do you think creationism will be tolerated in the US?

For as long as we have freedom of religion, speech, and expression.

 

[DerelictJunction]

You will need to provide your sources for this intelligence theory you are inventing.
And an unchallenged theory is not a theory. It's just a whim.

?? You're the one who claims that science says intelligence cannot be created. I was merely showing you scientific observations that seem to indicate otherwise. Can you show me, scientifically the origin of the intelligence that human beings possess, because it appears it developed during the evolution of our species.

 

[DerelictJunction]

For that matter let's make a human just a different form of a pig. We do currently use pig heart transplants and pig skin in the medical field.

And I'll bet you don't really know why that is.
You also need to work on your knowledge of the classification system used by science for the living things on this planet.

 

[DerelictJunction]

Owned by Evolutionists, judged by Evolutionists, and if you dare insult or bring proof against their precious "Darwinian Evolution" dynasty there will be hell to pay and your funding will cease to exist.

Nice. Accuse the entire scientific community of duplicity, bias and unfair tactics. One wonders where the golden rule applies. Apparently not here.

 

[DerelictJunction]

Strawman tactics now?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_authority

You all swore once they were extinct - they were wrong.

They told us it was fact they were a transitory species between land and water - they were wrong.

Yet now you insist because the majority tells us something else they are right - even if in every single case where they have done so they have been wrong.

Imagine that.

I see. If an entire community of researchers gets one thing wrong, then your response is to never trust the results of any research they produce after that. I'm guessing that you don't go to doctors either, since the medical field has made mistakes many times in the past.

Also, how is it a Strawman for me to ask you to support your statement that the fossil Coelacanth and the living Coelacanth are the same species?

Or was that accusation a result of my question regarding your credentials in the scientific fields of biology and paleontology.

 

[asherahSamaria]

Even if evolution is completely false how does that make creationism true? creationism is a belief based on an old story as are all religions.

It doesn't - but Christians in particular think it does. If you examine some of the older creation myths they share a lot of common themes such as separation of waters, speaking of words, men made from mud, etc. When trying to "sell" the Biblical notion of creation the authors had to import as many of these pre-used ideas as possible, including that it was the "Elohim" that done it - (That is gods, plural) which simply borrowed from surrounding mythologies.

 

[DerelictJunction]

You have issues

Yes, I have issues with someone who knows very little about the science of biology or the theory of evolution, but accuses all those scientists of lying and using unfair tactics to protect those lies. Do you believe that an uninformed accusation such as this is virtuous?

 

[JonFromMinnesota]

Yes, I have issues with someone who knows very little about the science of biology or the theory of evolution, but accuses all those scientists of lying and using unfair tactics to protect those lies. Do you believe that an uninformed accusation such as this is virtuous?

I wonder how they think science develop new flu vaccines. Probably with just magical guesses and not their vast understanding of the theory of evolution.

 

[AV1611VET]

?? You're the one who claims that science says intelligence cannot be created. I was merely showing you scientific observations that seem to indicate otherwise. Can you show me, scientifically the origin of the intelligence that human beings possess, because it appears it developed during the evolution of our species.

What is intelligence, but one's brain acclimating to the facts it absorbs?

 

[AV1611VET]

You also need to work on your knowledge of the classification system used by science for the living things on this planet.

The one that says we're all Homos?

 

[DerelictJunction]

The one that says we're all Homos?

Yes...that one.

 

[VirOptimus]

The one that says we're all Homos?

Homo sapiens yes.

 

[DerelictJunction]

No its because your tone is so mad. You need to chill and eat a banana.

Perhaps I shouldn't have matched her tone. Advice accepted.
However, bananas give me heartburn

 

[DerelictJunction]

What is intelligence, but one's brain acclimating to the facts it absorbs?

What does this have to do with the discussion at hand?

 

[Subduction Zone]

So much for the accuracy of evidence then.

Just curious, what led to the assumption that they went extinct?

Was it assumed on principle?

What part did the scientific method play in leading to that conclusion?

None were observed for hundreds of years. Most species of Coelacanth observed in the fossil record were not fish of the deep seas. The two remaining species are. It was not a fault of the scientists. It is amazing how you seem to be ready to condemn scientists so quickly and yet you never criticize your own apparent flaws. Didn't some man some time in the past make a sermon on beams, motes and eyes?

 

[Subduction Zone]

The religious have the capacity to be neutral and objective. It is not something exclusive to atheists. In fact, they have the capacity to be very biased as well.

Have you picked a dictionary lately whose definition of 'Christianity' is 'the one true religion of God'? Can't seem to find that one anywhere.

Really? Then why can't Christians honestly define atheism? And please, your analogy fails. If you wanted to be fair you would show that a dictionary written by a Christian could fairly define what Islam or Buddhism is. And since I am neither of those you would need to ask a member of Islam if the dictionary definition of their religion was correct or not.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Is that why scientists think Hitler was a Christian?

With respect to your advice, or in spite of your advice?

That is not the thought of scientists, that is the thought of people that have studied Hitler. He clearly was a Christian. He may have had faulty beliefs, though his actions are not all that different form other Christians that had absolute power in the past. And that fact has nothing to do with my suggestion. He may not have been your kind of "Christian" AV, but then your personal variety is rather unique.

 

[Crowns&Laurels]

Really? Then why can't Christians honestly define atheism? And please, your analogy fails. If you wanted to be fair you would show that a dictionary written by a Christian could fairly define what Islam or Buddhism is. And since I am neither of those you would need to ask a member of Islam if the dictionary definition of their religion was correct or not.

Noah Webster was an avid Christian. I can't seem to find a single edition where it is stated anything other then something commensurate to 'a disbelief in a deity'.

 

[JonFromMinnesota]

That is not the thought of scientists, that is the thought of people that have studied Hitler. He clearly was a Christian. He may have had faulty beliefs, though his actions are not all that different form other Christians that had absolute power in the past. And that fact has nothing to do with my suggestion. He may not have been your kind of "Christian" AV, but then your personal variety is rather unique.

Lots of evidence for that too:

“I believe today that I am acting in the sense of the Almighty
Creator. By warding off the Jews I am fighting for the Lord’s work.” (Adolph Hitler, Speech- Reichstag, 1936)

“I believe today that my conduct is in accordance with the will of
the Almighty Creator.” (Adolph Hitler, Mein Kampf. P46)

“I am now as before a Catholic and will always remain so” (Adolph Hitler to General Gerhard Engel, 1941)