Do you think homosexuals go to Hell??

[brinny]

Hi pupii,

Only those whose names are not written in the Lamb's book of life will be cast out. To get one's name written in the Lamb's book of life, they need to be born again. To be born again means that one has accepted the Holy Spirit to guide their steps and to give them understanding of godly things. As the Scriptures declare, they have been born of the Spirit.

So, all of that represents the life of those who will be saved on the day of the Father's final judgment. If one is guided by the Holy Spirit, then participating in sin becomes more and more difficult as the Spirit begins to convict and encourage in righteousness. That is what Jesus told us was the job of the Holy Spirit.

I believe that the Scriptures are fairly clear that same sex relations and adulterous sexual relations are sinful practices of man before God. Therefore, I believe that if one is born again and practicing sin in their life, that they will be constantly dealing with the guilt of their sin until they either squelch the work of the Holy Spirit or change their life.

The question for each one that comes to ask such questions as this is: Has that person been born again?

I think that Jesus was quite clear, that on the day of his Father's judgment, there are going to be many who professed themselves to be christians upon the earth and even did mighty works in the name of Jesus, but who were not born again. That is, born of the same Spirit which Jesus has that makes them known to him. If one has been born again, then by definition, they have the Spirit of truth within them that convicts of both sin and righteousness.

God bless you.
In Christ, Ted

This.

 

[ReesePiece23]

If all we do is point out sexual sin of others, how will people know all the other things we need to have corrected? How will they know where they need to go, for correction, if we are not being "examples" of all the Bible says we need, for us Christians?

The bottom line is this. Whether you're Christian or not, the entire world is obsessed with sex in some form or another - unless of course you're asexual, when in which case you couldn't care less.

If you're not condemning it, debating about it, thinking about it, or reading about it, you're doing it; and the problem is that we all miss the bigger picture. Sex - in all of its forms, is MASSIVELY overrated. And same sex relations are not as big of a deal as most people make them out to me.

We've all got bigger fish to fry. Praying for peace in hearts of those in the Middle East, and getting clean water to deprived countries to name a couple...

 

[Messy]

Now, why would God save you if He knew you were going to reject Him? God has better things to do than worry about those He didnt draw. All those He drew are sheep. All sheep are saved. Have you ever heard of a sheep going to hell where goats go? Are you listening to wolves with sheep clothing agian? Why not use the Bible as your source of truth?

It's in the Bible. You have to work out your salvation with fear and trembling.

 

[com7fy8]

Yes, Paul warned the church that the practicing homosexual will go to hell. This is scary for me. I am a homosexual. I do not however engage, except through fantasy and lust. I am trying to repent, but it is so hard for me.

I gave up inappropriate content, but I still lust. I have been lusting for years.

Hi, Cedric I am Bill God bless you Jesus Christ is the Lord of all, and Jesus died on the cross for all of us, because Jesus has hope for you as much as for anyone else. So, Jesus has more hope for you, than you have for yourself ! ! !

So, make sure you have trusted in Christ (Ephesians 1:12). Trust God to make you able to surrender to Him and submit to Him in His peace. His peace is almighty, strong enough to make you safe from evil desires and feelings and thoughts which would mess with you (Philippians 4:6-7).

And . . . "by the way" . . . we all need a lot more correction, than to only get free of lusts.

And I offer, that any lust can be very convincing and dominating and driving so we feel we can't make it go away. But God can easily and breezily and beautifully make Satanic things flee from us.

"Therefore submit to God. Resist the devil and he will flee from you." (James 4:7)

I have been a perpetual bully who had hobbies in other cruel things; I was so Satanic, that I found my cruel activities to be entertaining. And I have given in to various immoral and perverted things. After doing evil on purpose, I became a devout person in a religion witch boasts itself to be better than all the rest, and during that I could become a mess of worry and painful social self-consciousness while into that religion the way I was.

And cruel and conceited ideas, and sexually evil thoughts and feelings can still come back, but God has in moments made any of that stuff go away - - He has cleared me so well, that moments later I would forget I had the problem, and I would "need" to be reminded that He made them go away, so I could thank Him

So, it is not about how able you are, but how God is able (1 Peter 5:7).

And what has helped me has not been only finding ways and methods for how I should defend and discipline myself, but to seek God to correct and cure my character so I am immune to sickly evil stuff. But this comes with growing in His love which makes us immune even like He is >

"Love has been perfected among us in this: that we may have boldness in the day of judgment; because as He is, so are we in this world." (1 John 4:17)

As I have kept dealing with how the Bible says to relate in love with people, I have gotten stronger in God's love. And His strength is in His all-loving and generously forgiving love, so that evil and cruel and lustful things can not get the better of me and my attention, even.

One thing that can help is >

"Do all things without complaining and disputing, that you may become blameless and harmless, children of God without fault in the midst of a crooked and perverse generation,"

This is in Philippians 2:14-16. Instead of feeding on your failure and how you could go to hell, feed on things like this, in the Bible. And, "of course", make sure you have first trusted in Christ (Ephesians 1:12), so you can get started in this, the way Jesus will take us >

"'Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls.'" (Matthew 11:29)

If we have trusted in Jesus, and not only copy-catted what others tell us to do, Jesus will do this with us; God does succeed in us, so that "as He is, so are we in this world," John clearly says in 1 John 4:17. So, do not accept any failure and excuses! But we keep confessing however we do fail, but keep trusting how God succeeds.

And feed on all the other things the Bible says about how we all need correction; do not get focused only on the sexual issue things. There is a lot more needed, and it has to do with how God's love will have us become, in personal and sensitive sharing with Him while we obey how He rules us in His own peace > Colossians 3:15 > and how His love has us tenderly relating with one another (Ephesians 4:31-5:2), while loving any and all people who do not know God (Matthew 5:46), having hope for any evil person, at all, to become adopted to join us as family > love "hopes all things" (in 1 Corinthians 13:7).

So, don't be tricked into only being concerned about gay stuff > that can be a decoy to keep your attention away from all the correction and all the good which our Father has for us through Jesus His own Son

So, by the way, this all feeds to answer the question about if gays will go to hell. Hebrews 12:4-11 clearly says that if we do not get our Father's correction, "you are illegitimate and not sons". So, seek our Father for all His correction, and not only for some one or two things which are getting a lot of attention.

"Furthermore, we have had human fathers who corrected us, and we paid them respect. Shall we not much more readily be in subjection to the Father of spirits and live? For they indeed for a few days chastened us as seemed best to them, but He for our profit, that we may be partakers of His holiness. Now no chastening seems to be joyful for the present, but painful; nevertheless, afterward it yields the peaceable fruit of righteousness to those who have been trained by it." (Hebrews 12:9-11)

So, our Father's correction cures our nature so we become "partakers of His holiness", and this is in His own love's "peaceable fruit of righteousness". This holiness and peaceable fruit of righteousness in our hearts makes us ready to share with our Groom Jesus and each other, for all eternity. So, if gays or anyone else are "without" this correction, it says "you are illegitimate and not sons". And to me this means a person could go to hell, if he or she does not get started to submit to our Father's correction. So, committed gays are not the only ones who have not obeyed how our Father corrects us, in His preparation to have us with Him for all eternity.

So, instead of only worrying about if you could go to hell . . . trust in Jesus and submit to our Father for this correction; and actively keep seeking Him for this correction, so we share in His own holiness of His love, and so we are enjoying the peace of His righteousness in us. God desires this for us; so He is the real Father, who loves us more than we care about our own selves; He is almightily able to succeed and He is committed to doing all His word means, with us > all He Himself understands His word to mean > Isaiah 55:11.

So, as much as we still will fail, confess this to God and keep trusting how He alone is able.

 

[tulipbee]

It's in the Bible. You have to work out your salvation with fear and trembling.

If youre able but none of mankind is able but you. You're the only one able cause you told God to butt out of your free will and you can tell Him what to do when you're ready whenever you feel like it. When you do feel like it, you boast without knowing you're not saved due to follow what men tell you how salvation works

 

[Messy]

If youre able but none of mankind is able but you. You're the only one able cause you told God to butt out of your free will and you can tell Him what to do when you're ready whenever you feel like it. When you do feel like it, you boast without knowing you're not saved due to follow what men tell you how salvation works

Everyone is able. Our old man died with Him. He enables us. He lives in us. He came to save us from our sins not so that we would stay sinners. Otherwise you can skip a whole lot of Bible texts.

 

[tulipbee]

Everyone is able. Our old man died with Him. He enables us. He lives in us. He came to save us from our sins not so that we would stay sinners. Otherwise you can skip a whole lot of Bible texts.

Yeah right, somebody is mess'in with your mind. You ought to return to the bible and start over with these verses on what man can or can't do:
It is man who:

- is deceitful and desperately sick (Jer. 17:9).
- is full of evil (Mark 7:21-23).
- loves darkness rather than light (John 3:19).
- is unrighteous, does not understand, does not seek for God (Rom. 3:10-12).
- is helpless and ungodly (Rom. 5:6).
- is dead in his trespasses and sins (Eph. 2:1).
- is by nature a child of wrath (Eph. 2:3).
- cannot understand spiritual things (1 Cor. 2:14).
- is a slave of sin (Rom. 6:16-20).

 

[Messy]

Yeah right, somebody is mess'in with your mind. You ought to return to the bible and start over with these verses on what man can or can't do:
It is man who:

- is deceitful and desperately sick (Jer. 17:9).
- is full of evil (Mark 7:21-23).
- loves darkness rather than light (John 3:19).
- is unrighteous, does not understand, does not seek for God (Rom. 3:10-12).
- is helpless and ungodly (Rom. 5:6).
- is dead in his trespasses and sins (Eph. 2:1).
- is by nature a child of wrath (Eph. 2:3).
- cannot understand spiritual things (1 Cor. 2:14).
- is a slave of sin (Rom. 6:16-20).

Yes that's the old man and Jesus had it killed so we could get His Nature and be lead by the Spirit.

 

[revrobor]

If homosexuals continue homosexual sex until the Lord comes they are doomed yes. That's not my opinion but Gods'. Read it for yourself: 1 Cor. 6: 9-10, Rom. 1: 26,27; 1 Tim. 1:10, Rev. 21 8; Lev. 18: 22, 29, 30.

 

[tulipbee]

Yes that's the old man and Jesus had it killed so we could get His Nature and be lead by the Spirit.

Elects never were the old men. They had his nature before they were born.

 

[sickntired771]

I absolutely do not think gay people goto hell. The word homosexual in some modern Bibles is heresy because there was no word homosexual and these are mistranslations of the original text. I believe gay or straight, if you are under God's grace you are going to Heaven.

 

[Xalith]

I absolutely do not think gay people goto hell. The word homosexual in some modern Bibles is heresy because there was no word homosexual and these are mistranslations of the original text. I believe gay or straight, if you are under God's grace you are going to Heaven.

Except for the verses that speak about "men who lie with men"... (I'm using the KJV, btw)

Genesis 19:1-13 (The whole Sodom and Gomorrah story, where the people of the city wanted to gang-rape the angels there, even after they were offered virgin daughters)

Leviticus 18:22
Leviticus 20:13 (These two passages are part of Mosiac Law, but God very clearly says that these are considered "abominations", which very clearly tells us what He thinks about men sleeping with men).

Romans 1:26-27 (In the KJV, the oldest English translation there is, homosexuality is very clearly referred to as "vile")

1 Corinthians 6:9 (This passage does not refer to homosexuality, nor names it in KJV, however it DOES say "nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind" which clearly means Paul is talking about men who are effeminate (those who try to portray themselves as female-like to attract men) who abuse themselves with other men.

None of these passages specifically SAY "homosexual" in the original KJV, however you can tell they are referring to that.

Don't believe me? Look them up on Biblegateway.com.

EDIT: Actually, the American Standard Version that this site uses doesn't even use the word 'homosexual' but yet it is strikingly obvious that they are referring to homosexual sex.

 

[sickntired771]

I am forbidden by this site to give the liberal interpretation of these scriptures but suffice to say those of us progressive evangelicals don't think any of this has to do with loving committed same-sex couples today who are not engaging in rape, prostitutiton or pagan practice. I won't get into a debate with you, this is the position I have to come to after research and prayerfully asking the Holy Spirit for guidance.

 

[SistrNChrist]

Elects never were the old men. They had his nature before they were born.

I disagree with you there. My opinion is that deep down, every person on this earth knows that there's something missing in their lives, but because they don't yet know God, they can't articulate exactly what is missing. That's why a lot of people turn to things like drugs, food, alcohol, etc., because they want to try and satisfy that longing in their soul with something tangible that they can understand. In my experience, I always knew something was missing in my life, even though, like every unsaved person out there, I was unable to put into words just what that was. It wasn't until I turned 21 that I first heard about Christ, and I instinctively knew that that was what was missing in my life. And from the testimonies of other believers who came to know God in their adult or teen years, pretty much everyone has that common thread that they knew without a doubt that something was missing in their lives, but were unable to fully comprehend what that something was until they made the conscious decision to accept Christ into their hearts.

 

[tulipbee]

I disagree with you there. My opinion is that deep down, every person on this earth knows that there's something missing in their lives, but because they don't yet know God, they can't articulate exactly what is missing. That's why a lot of people turn to things like drugs, food, alcohol, etc., because they want to try and satisfy that longing in their soul with something tangible that they can understand. In my experience, I always knew something was missing in my life, even though, like every unsaved person out there, I was unable to put into words just what that was. It wasn't until I turned 21 that I first heard about Christ, and I instinctively knew that that was what was missing in my life. And from the testimonies of other believers who came to know God in their adult or teen years, pretty much everyone has that common thread that they knew without a doubt that something was missing in their lives, but were unable to fully comprehend what that something was until they made the conscious decision to accept Christ into their hearts.

God still does the choosing and the chossing happens before birth so sure you did asprin, beer and pain medicine, play with girls, heard about jesus as a boy on tv and yet others tell you that they're missing some of your money to help pay for the pastors cable tv and a new grill for his weekly steaks. The elects never had the missing link cause the were created elects from the start.

 

[dragongunner]

I am forbidden by this site to give the liberal interpretation of these scriptures but suffice to say those of us progressive evangelicals don't think any of this has to do with loving committed same-sex couples today who are not engaging in rape, prostitutiton or pagan practice. I won't get into a debate with you, this is the position I have to come to after research and prayerfully asking the Holy Spirit for guidance.

I remember the time when a woman asked my pastor if she could marry a man she was having sex with other than her husband. Her husband sat beside her in church and she was cheating on him with another man. My pastor said No, she was a married woman and to stop committing adultery. But she was shocked…"But I love this other man and have prayed about it and believe the Lord is ok with it." She lost the debate also because Gods word rises above all…..scary stuff I have read on this forum. And lots of scripture telling us of this time when those who will no longer hold fast to sound doctrine.

 

[football5680]

I absolutely do not think gay people goto hell. The word homosexual in some modern Bibles is heresy because there was no word homosexual and these are mistranslations of the original text. I believe gay or straight, if you are under God's grace you are going to Heaven.

The Bible doesn't need to use the exact word if the concept is clear and even if this was true, they would still be committing fornication by default.

 

[LovelyGiselle]

I absolutely do not think gay people goto hell. The word homosexual in some modern Bibles is heresy because there was no word homosexual and these are mistranslations of the original text. I believe gay or straight, if you are under God's grace you are going to Heaven.

The word "homosexual" in some translations is not heresy at all. Be careful.

Do not seek to conform with the world. Being politically correct and popular does not and should not trump the word of God.

At the end of the day, homosexual sex is a sin. And the bible is the infallible word of God.

Above all, you must realize that no prophecy in Scripture ever came from the prophet’s own understanding, or from human initiative. No, those prophets were moved by the Holy Spirit, and they spoke from God.

2 PETER 1:20-21 NLT

For a time is coming when people will no longer listen to sound and wholesome teaching. They will follow their own desires and will look for teachers who will tell them whatever their itching ears want to hear. They will reject the truth and chase after myths.

2 TIMOTHY 4:3-4 NLT

 

[tulipbee]

The Bible doesn't need to use the exact word if the concept is clear and even if this was true, they would still be committing fornication by default.

Thates silly. Same sex cant commit fornication cause they dont have the intercourse parts. Its nothing more that a deep massage

 

[kidwboro]

Before we move on any further with this topic, we must first define homosexuality.
A homosexual is a person who judges homosexuals.

We must all make sure we are not passing judgment on homosexuals.
For the Scripture says:
"Therefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art that judgest: for wherein thou judgest another, thou condemnest thyself; for thou that judgest doest the same things."
[Romans 2:1]