Do you think homosexuals go to Hell??

[tulipbee]

homosexuality only makes one forget about God for the rest of their lives. At the end, they will find out they got nowhere and then probably be saved with deep regret

 

[cedric1200]

Yes, Paul warned the church that the practicing homosexual will go to hell. This is scary for me. I am a homosexual. I do not however engage, except through fantasy and lust. I am trying to repent, but it is so hard for me.

I gave up porn, but I still lust. I have been lusting for years.

 

[Messy]

If they don't repent in time and are practisizing, yes, just like people living together or just having sex before marriage. That's why I don't date. I'm not gonna risk my eternity just because everyone nowadays thinks it's all okay or oh yeah we say sorry afterwards.

 

[Armoured]

The New Testament clearly teaches that there will be no gays peoples in Heaven,

[citation needed]

 

[Soyeong]

If they don't repent in time and are practisizing, yes, just like people living together or just having sex before marriage. That's why I don't date. I'm not gonna risk my eternity just because everyone nowadays thinks it's all okay or oh yeah we say sorry afterwards.

Repentance is about changing our way of thinking, not about feeling sorrow. Intentionally sinning while planning to repent afterwards is missing the point.

 

[LostMarbels]

Homosexuals do not go to hell because they are gay. They go to hell if they do not have a relationship with Jesus. Just like all of us sinners.

Now..... Do people go to hell for so badly damaging the witness of Christ, that they have lead many to hell, out of pure shame, and fear of reaching out to Jesus?

 

[Messy]

Repentance is about changing our way of thinking, not about feeling sorrow. Intentionally sinning while planning to repent afterwards is missing the point.

Yes but almost everyone does that. If you really repent you just make sure you have a chaperone or something.

 

[tulipbee]

If they don't repent in time and are practisizing, yes, just like people living together or just having sex before marriage. That's why I don't date. I'm not gonna risk my eternity just because everyone nowadays thinks it's all okay or oh yeah we say sorry afterwards.

using, "if they don't repeat" is the same as "faith precedes regeneration " . They can't repent unless God regenerates them first

 

[Messy]

using, "if they don't repeat" is the same as "faith precedes regeneration " . They can't repent unless God regenerates them first

You don't get born again if you don't repent. Why else was John the Baptist telling everyone to repent? Faith comes by hearing. Then you repent and then you get born again and changed. You can choose to turn away from sin.

 

[tulipbee]

You don't get born again if you don't repent. Why else was John the Baptist telling everyone to repent? Faith comes by hearing. Then you repent and then you get born again and changed. You can choose to turn away from sin.

Regeneration must precede faith accorrding to the Bible in your very own hands. Read them agian.
Your theology don't work cause It is man who:

- is deceitful and desperately sick (Jer. 17:9).
- is full of evil (Mark 7:21-23).
- loves darkness rather than light (John 3:19).
- is unrighteous, does not understand, does not seek for God (Rom. 3:10-12).
- is helpless and ungodly (Rom. 5:6).
- is dead in his trespasses and sins (Eph. 2:1).
- is by nature a child of wrath (Eph. 2:3).
- cannot understand spiritual things (1 Cor. 2:14).
- is a slave of sin (Rom. 6:16-20).

 

[Xalith]

Regeneration must precede faith accorrding to the Bible in your very own hands. Read them agian.
Your theology don't work cause It is man who:

- is deceitful and desperately sick (Jer. 17:9).
- is full of evil (Mark 7:21-23).
- loves darkness rather than light (John 3:19).
- is unrighteous, does not understand, does not seek for God (Rom. 3:10-12).
- is helpless and ungodly (Rom. 5:6).
- is dead in his trespasses and sins (Eph. 2:1).
- is by nature a child of wrath (Eph. 2:3).
- cannot understand spiritual things (1 Cor. 2:14).
- is a slave of sin (Rom. 6:16-20).

2 Peter 3:9 : The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

Now, what you're saying, is that nobody can become saved unless God Himself regenerates us, and gives us the ability to realize that we should hate our sin and come to Christ, and that no man can realize he's dead in his sin without this regeneration.

If that were true, then why does Peter say that God wants everybody to come to repentance? If God's regeneration is required before you come to repentance, then why doesn't everybody become regenerated by God and therefore come to repentance?

That tells me that one has to do something before they can receive this regeneration (aka, indwelling of the Holy Spirit, being Born-Again, etc).

And that something is realizing that you're dead in your sin and that you need a saviour, and Christ is that saviour.

 

[Messy]

Regeneration must precede faith accorrding to the Bible in your very own hands. Read them agian.
Your theology don't work cause It is man who:

- is deceitful and desperately sick (Jer. 17:9).
- is full of evil (Mark 7:21-23).
- loves darkness rather than light (John 3:19).
- is unrighteous, does not understand, does not seek for God (Rom. 3:10-12).
- is helpless and ungodly (Rom. 5:6).
- is dead in his trespasses and sins (Eph. 2:1).
- is by nature a child of wrath (Eph. 2:3).
- cannot understand spiritual things (1 Cor. 2:14).
- is a slave of sin (Rom. 6:16-20).

Yes, He draws, but you can still say yes or no and get help or deliverance. Otherwise noone could get saved.

 

[Messy]

Yes, Paul warned the church that the practicing homosexual will go to hell. This is scary for me. I am a homosexual. I do not however engage, except through fantasy and lust. I am trying to repent, but it is so hard for me.

I gave up porn, but I still lust. I have been lusting for years.

I got set free from lusting by deliverance prayer.

 

[tulipbee]

2 Peter 3:9 : The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

Now, what you're saying, is that nobody can become saved unless God Himself regenerates us, and gives us the ability to realize that we should hate our sin and come to Christ, and that no man can realize he's dead in his sin without this regeneration.

If that were true, then why does Peter say that God wants everybody to come to repentance? If God's regeneration is required before you come to repentance, then why doesn't everybody become regenerated by God and therefore come to repentance?

That tells me that one has to do something before they can receive this regeneration (aka, indwelling of the Holy Spirit, being Born-Again, etc).

And that something is realizing that you're dead in your sin and that you need a saviour, and Christ is that saviour.

No man can pluck God out of thin air. They can't see Him nor know where to look nor they care. So God does the saving cause men are blind as a bat

 

[tulipbee]

Yes, He draws, but you can still say yes or no and get help or deliverance. Otherwise noone could get saved.

Too bad you think someone deserves to be saved. Go right ahead and work hard to earn salvation so you can boast about it.

 

[Messy]

Too bad you think someone deserves to be saved. Go right ahead and work hard to earn salvation so you can boast about it.

You get saved by grace but you can reject the gift. If you work hard it's no use.
If you have bondages after you got saved you just need prayer and make a choice to not do something. I dated someone who wanted to live together. God warned me that we would both go to hell so I broke it off.

 

[tulipbee]

You get saved by grace but you can reject the gift. If you work hard it's no use.
If you have bondages after you got saved you just need prayer and make a choice to not do something. I dated someone who wanted to live together. God warned me that we would both go to hell so I broke it off.

Now, why would God save you if He knew you were going to reject Him? God has better things to do than worry about those He didnt draw. All those He drew are sheep. All sheep are saved. Have you ever heard of a sheep going to hell where goats go? Are you listening to wolves with sheep clothing agian? Why not use the Bible as your source of truth?

 

[ReesePiece23]

Well, will you go to hell just for having a lie in? Sleeping in for too long is a sin as well, just as all of the other sins out there.

Do a search for 1 John 8:10 - you'll see that it's impossible NOT to sin and still consider yourself a Christian. Because if you don't sin, then that would render the entire process of crucifying Jesus utterly pointless.

The only way to earn a place in heaven is to believe that Jesus bought your sins, and earned a place for you on your behalf. (There may be a grey area with those who die with a pure heart and never got the chance to be saved on Earth, but I won't go in to that.)

 

[tulipbee]

Well, will you go to hell just for having a lie in? Sleeping in for too long is a sin as well, just as all of the other sins out there.

Do a search for 1 John 8:10 - you'll see that it's impossible NOT to sin and still consider yourself a Christian. Because if you don't sin, then that would render the entire process of crucifying Jesus utterly pointless.

The only way to earn a place in heaven is to believe that Jesus bought your sins, and earned a place for you on your behalf. (There may be a grey area with those who die with a pure heart and never got the chance to be saved on Earth, but I won't go in to that.)

Earning salvation is creepy cause its pure boasting

 

[com7fy8]

Not exactly on topic, but I think far too many "Christians" are worried about making proclamations about the sin of others when perhaps they should be more concerned with their own sin (as we are all sinners).

"For the time has come for judgment to begin at the house of God; and if it begins with us first, what will be the end of those who do not obey the gospel of God?" (1 Peter 4:17)

So, I find it "interesting" how some number of people are claiming the Bible and making a point of judging homosexuals first. Because this scripture, to me, shows that God judges His own children "first". And it appears to me, that there are people who claim to be Christians, but they are judging gays first!

I understand that we who are Christians need to be "examples" (1 Peter 5:3) of first judging our own selves, and this includes pointing out to others how we ourselves can be wrong, so people can not be fooled by us and so they can learn from how our Father is personally correcting us > Hebrews 12:4-11, James 5:16, 1 Peter 5:3.

If all we do is point out sexual sin of others, how will people know all the other things we need to have corrected? How will they know where they need to go, for correction, if we are not being "examples" of all the Bible says we need, for us Christians?

I myself have been very into self-righteously criticizing others. I could welcome the gay thing, as an excuse to look down on someone else. Yes, it is a temptation for me to self-righteously criticize homosexuals. And I have given in to the temptation. And Jesus had a major issue with hypocrisy . . . how ones could condemn others for sinning, but they did not first have compassion and hope for wrong people to turn to God and become His children. I have been like this.

"He can have compassion on those who are ignorant and going astray, since he himself is also subject to weakness." (Hebrews 5:2)