The ten commandments Old covenant, and the law "done away" and "abolished" as paul said

[Frogster]

The Churches were almost entirely Gentile!!!! Sheesh.

no, in fact Antioch had quite a large number of jews that were there, before the greeks. There were jews in all of the churches, When Jews got saved in Corinth or Ephesus, where do you think they went to church?

 

[Frogster]

Says you, they could have easily been Jews as Paul almost always went to the Jews in the area and presented his Gospel of Grace.

Amen!


Acts 14:14 Now at Iconium they entered together into the Jewish synagogue and spoke in such a way that a great number of both Jews and Greeks believed. 2 But the unbelieving Jews stirred up the Gentiles and poisoned their minds against the brothers.3 So they remained for a long time, speaking boldly for the Lord, who bore witness to the word of his grace, granting signs and wonders to be done by their hands.

7 and there they continued to preach the gospel.

 

[Frogster]

I stand by what I said.

you can stand on it, but the text proves you wrong, there were both in the churches.

 

[Meowzltov]

You have to remember that Paul was writing to both, there were Jews and Greeks in the Corinth Church, we have one faith, one baptism, one body as per Eph 4..

Sheesh, what percent of the Corinthian Church do you think the Jews were? How many Jews are at your church?

 

[Frogster]

Paul presented the gospel of grace to everyone. There is no contradiction between the gospel of grace and being obedient.

then why why do you say jews still have to live under l

Paul presented the gospel of grace to everyone. There is no contradiction between the gospel of grace and being obedient.

oh come on, lets not fuse the gospel with the law, even in Hebrews, it says the old cov is abolished..yea, the jews were told that..

Hebrews 10:9
then he added, ‘See, I have come to do your will.’ He abolishes the first in order to establish the second.

 

[Meowzltov]

The Jewish Christians in Antioch were living as gentiles. And besides, why did Peter at the Acts 15 meeting, say 'WE", could not bear the law yoke? Why did peter put himself in the WE????

Right on cue, Frog. It's been a stressful day. I need your endless repetition to lull me to sleep.

 

[Frogster]

Actually 9 10 and 11 are ABOUT Jews. Pretty good stuff too. Jews are part of the Elect for the sake of the Patriarch. All Israel shall be saved. Etc.

lol..Gentiles are the elect in 11, 9-11 is not just about jews.


11:7 What then? Israel failed to obtain what it was seeking. The elect obtained it, but the rest were hardened,

Earlier the gentiles in 9 are the best example of faith..


9:30 What shall we say, then? That Gentiles who did not pursue righteousness have attained it, that is, a righteousness that is by faith; 31 but that Israel who pursued a law that would lead to righteousness did not succeed in reaching that law. 32 Why? Because they did not pursue it by faith, but as if it were based on works. They have stumbled over the stumbling stone,

In fact in 11, he Jews learned about mercy because of gentiles, so you are wrong about you comment in red above.



11:31 so they too have now been disobedient in order that by the mercy shown to you they also may now receive mercy.

 

[Frogster]

Sheesh, what percent of the Corinthian Church do you think the Jews were? How many Jews are at your church?

Corinth had a large Jewish population.

 

[Meowzltov]

Jesus told the disciples they could not understand yet

Pentecost came before the Council of Jerusalem.

 

[Frogster]

why did peter says WE?????????????

We is in inclusive word for all of the Jews there at the meeting.

 

[Frogster]

Pentecost came before the Council of Jerusalem.

but the point was, expanding revelation....Paul came after Pent...hehehehehe

 

[Meowzltov]

If you knew acts, you would see that Jews got saved.

Jews get saved at my church too. Out of 4000, two of us are saved Jews. What percentage of the Gentile churches in Paul's day do you think were Jewish? Do the math, start with what percentage of the Roman empire outside of Judea were Jews, then figure in that only a small percent of that small percent became believers, since God placed a veil over their eyes...

 

[Meowzltov]

then why why do you say jews still have to live under l

We've talked all this time, and you haven't listened to me???????????????????? I give up. I really feel insulted.

 

[Frogster]

Jews get saved at my church too. Out of 4000, two of us are saved Jews. What percentage of the Gentile churches in Paul's day do you think were Jewish? Do the math, start with what percentage of the Roman empire outside of Judea were Jews, then figure in that only a small percent of that small percent became believers, since God placed a veil over their eyes...

Oh, so now your argument is about numbers, because you see by now the frog and others were right, there were both in the church, and paul wrote to both, so now you want to change modus operandi to percentages....lol

 

[Frogster]

We've talked all this time, and you haven't listened to me???????????????????? I give up. I really feel insulted.

don't be insulted, my dear kitty, just argue the text, meoooow...

 

[Meowzltov]

lol..Gentiles are the elect in 11, 9-11 is not just about jews.

I never said it was JUST about Jews. I said it was ABOUT Jews rather than TO Jews.

 

[Frogster]

I never said it was JUST about Jews. I said it was ABOUT Jews rather than TO Jews.

9 10 and 11 are ABOUT Jews.

you said that above...now, lets let if go, it is obvious what people would read that as...cough..cough...

 

[Meowzltov]

Corinth had a large Jewish population.

Really? And you know Corinth had far above the normal level of Jews HOW?

 

[Meowzltov]

but the point was, expanding revelation....Paul came after Pent...hehehehehe

oh brother

 

[Meowzltov]

don't be insulted, my dear kitty, just argue the text, meoooow...

I can't help it. When you talk kitty talk, I just have to forgive you.