When did evolution begin?

[bhsmte]

"I seek to know the mind of GOD, everything else is just details" A.Einstein He also said that Atheists were simply folks in need of additional data... Hmmmm

Einstein also said; belief in personal Gods, was childlike.

 

[Bradley Harris]

I quite miss the reasoning behind this rhetorical move, in reply to Bill Nye.

Intending no disrespect, I wonder whether Bill hasn't been inadvertently misinterpreted here.

 

[Aman777]

Hey Ben, do you know a poster by the name Aman777?

-CryptoLutheran

Sure, it's me. When I came on today, it asked for my E-mail name. When I posted it up came Aman777. I am so happy to get my name back thanks to fine people who run this message board. God Bless them all.

 

[Aman777]

I'm not - all life evolved from one single source - we are ALL animals..............

False, since animals don't post. ONLY Humans have the superior intelligence necessary to post. Humans were made Billions of years before the common ancestor of Apes making it impossible that Humans could have evolved from ANY other living creature, since Adam was FIRST made, before the plants and trees on the 3rd Day. Gen 2:4-7

We are Humans, destined to have dominion or rule over EVERY other living creature, including Apes, when Jesus returns. Gen 1:28 Those who preach the False ToE should be ashamed of lying to our little children by falsely teaching them that they are nothing but animals. I am sorry that you were brainwashed to believe such a lie. God Bless you

 

[dqhall]

I think evolution began by intelligent design, making it part the will of less sophisticated beings, part the will of a being with much greater intelligence. The crocodile is a living fossil. It has survived as a species for millions of years, since before the extinction of dinosaurs. The fossil record is real. It was not some trick of the devil to test my faith. The person(s) who wrote Genesis were obviously not eyewitnesses to the beginning of time. Since I believe an omnipotent God exists, I cannot believe all these complex life forms on earth are the highest life forms in the universe.

 

[justlookinla]

You do not seem to understand the concept of evidence. There are mountains of scientific evidence that support the theory of evolution, there is none that supports creationism. I can help you to understand the concept of scientific evidence. It is a type of evidence that tries to get rid of personal bias.

Ben...please don't be suckered into SZ's offer of 'understanding'. Trust me.

 

[Aman777]

I think evolution began by intelligent design, making it part the will of less sophisticated beings, part the will of a being with much greater intelligence. The crocodile is a living fossil. It has survived as a species for millions of years, since before the extinction of dinosaurs. The fossil record is real. It was not some trick of the devil to test my faith. The person(s) who wrote Genesis were obviously not eyewitnesses to the beginning of time. Since I believe an omnipotent God exists, I cannot believe all these complex life forms on earth are the highest life forms in the universe.

The Author of Genesis is the Holy Spirit, the Spirit of Truth. He was there in the beginning and will help anyone understand what happened then if they will study and ask for His help. God Bless you

 

[justlookinla]

Alright, in that case Scripture says "Pray without ceasing." and that's why the internet doesn't exist.

You're going to have to explain that one.

I'm not denigrating mankind by saying we're animals. I don't find the idea of being an animal offensive or shameful, just true. If truth offends you then that sounds like a personal problem that you need to work on in your free time.

Equating humanity with other animals, when it's far beyond those creations, is an attempt to view it as just another life form. It's not.

But it doesn't make us non-animals.

-CryptoLutheran

It makes us unique, not just another animal.

 

[Aman777]

Ben...please don't be suckered into SZ's offer of 'understanding'. Trust me.

I won't. SZ and I go back a long way and he knows that God's Holy Word will refute him every time but he tries anyway. Thanks for your concern and God Bless you.

 

[brinny]

Jan Volkes said:
Would you say that education was the key brinny? had you been better educated do you think you could have found life a little easier? do you think you could have understood the ToE?
I struggle badly with math but I don't dismiss it all together just because I find math very hard to do, I know there are people who do incredible math in their heads without giving it a second thought, of course I don't need math to be wrong so I can believe something else like you do with evolution.

No. It's not logical to me. It doesn't add up.

But to each his own.

But a magic man in the sky is logical to you and it adds up? really?

Interesting take on what i posted. However you are entitled to your views whether they have anything to do with what i said or not.

 

[Fossil]

Bill Nye "The Science Guy" assures us that the particular fossils found in the successive layers of sediments, wherever they are found around the earth, do not appear in the previous or later sediment layers. If this is true none of those particular life forms, unique only to those sediment layers, evolved at all, but were destroyed when that period ended.

So, if evolution did occur to those species it must have occurred during the very brief period between those time frames, for which there is no fossil evidence. And the change would have been quite drastic.

Or, if evolution did occur during the forming of those layers the evolved species within all perished when that period abruptly ended, thus interrupting the whole evolutionary process.

So, if everything perished in the previous layer, what was left to evolve in succeeding layers?

 

[Fossil]

All, the question stated is actually flawed. It assumes evolution as true, when it is in fact a theory, and will continue to be a theory increasingly found to be flawed completely. No amount of sincerity will make something that is not true true. Stick to the facts. Creation is a facts based assurtion. Even more so than evolution. Check out creation.com and see for yourselves.

 

[dqhall]

Layers containing fossils are lithified sediments such as shale, limestone, siltstone, sandstone, etc. The layers were deposited in lakes, river deltas, along tidal flats where sediments settled to the bottom of bodies of water. Some forms survived the eons or morphed into new forms while others perished. Knowledge of paleontology cannot be perfect. A few paragraphs in Genesis cannot sum it all up either. The main truth I found in Genesis was about God creating. Peter wrote that a day is like a thousand years and a thousand years is like a day. I try to find faith in the teachings of Jesus as being greater than the "books of Moses."

 

[HolyisourGod]

Bill Nye said himself he's not a scientist, but a mechanical engineer. So why bother being bothered by him and his nonsense?

 

[Subduction Zone]

No, you are just hoping that they don't look at the evidence because there is no evidence that supports what is being claimed.

Wrong, you are simply another creationist that does not understand the nature of evidence.

 

[jimbohank]

We have the transcripts.

http://www.youngearth.org/index.php...m/21-transcript-of-ken-ham-vs-bill-nye-debate

It isn't hard to show that the opening post misunderstood what Nye was saying.

I watched this debate and it was so incredibly ridiculous I wanted to turn it off. I believe it was an embarrassment to believers and non-believers alike. Ham's belief that the earth is only 6000 years old is Biblically inaccurate to say the least, and how he could attempt at defending that claim was ignorant at best. If I had more time right now I could blow his argument as well as the even more ignorant Bill Nye's argument out of the water looking at God's Word, Character and Creation. But honestly, the blind will continue to stay blind until they check their vanity at the door and open their heart to God's truth.

 

[jimbohank]

Bill Nye said himself he's not a scientist, but a mechanical engineer. So why bother being bothered by him and his nonsense?

Very true...thank you!

 

[dqhall]

Bill Nye said himself he's not a scientist, but a mechanical engineer. So why bother being bothered by him and his nonsense?

A short description of a topic will likely lack sufficient detail. According to the fossil record there was a mass extinction 60 million years ago. Creatures like the crocodile or nautilus that may trace ancestry back million of years ago somehow survived. I think God may have helped evolve or create new life forms and improved existing ones. There is the old parable about a caterpillar is only a caterpillar until it becomes a butterfly. God can heal. God can create.

 

[aus22]

As A Catholic I have no problem in accepting Evolution. As long as at one stage there was a creator. Evolution of animals is found in fosil records. Of course some animals never evolved and became extinct. Dinosaurs > they were present in all continents. Yet they all die out> this might have been the origin of the flood story. We do not have to accept the story as literal.

 

[justlookinla]

As A Catholic I have no problem in accepting Evolution. As long as at one stage there was a creator. Evolution of animals is found in fosil records. Of course some animals never evolved and became extinct. Dinosaurs > they were present in all continents. Yet they all die out> this might have been the origin of the flood story. We do not have to accept the story as literal.

The issue is concerning what form of evolution you accept, the Darwinian one where humanity is created only by naturalistic mechanisms or the theistic one where God is involved.

The term "evolution" has many meanings.