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Could anyone tell me if this is true?

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juvenissun said:
Nevertheless, if you like to learn something about the relationship of Creationism to science, you are very welcome to contribute. And I will respond.
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Sure.

What would be the differences between "physics without creaiontism" and "physics with creationism"?
 
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Givemeareason said:
I would guess that more criminals are christians than athiests because christians can feel good about being forgiven even when their bad.
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What you said is a perfect example to illustrate the difference between knowledge and experience. (no need to ask if you do not see the point).
 
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DogmaHunter said:
The threat is that students wouldn't be taught proper science, but religion instead.

It would be a bible. What else?

Actual science topics? Indeed, none.
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The Bible is a science book for post doctors, not for school kids.
 
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juvenissun said:
I guess a science book should be for Ph.D. in science.
Of course, others can use the Bible for any other inspiration.
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Yes, science books come in handy for those in science.

If it was a Phd in theology, I am quite certain the bible would come in handy.
 
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bhsmte said:
Yes, science books come in handy for those in science.

If it was a Phd in theology, I am quite certain the bible would come in handy.
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Much more than that. It is for sociologist, politician, historian, medical doctors, etc. etc. You name it.
I actually learn quite a bit geology from the Bible. And the Bible is still the supreme guide to my geology study. My whole Ph.D. dissertation is, in fact, summarized in two verses of the Bible. I was so amazed and my faith to this Holy Book really started from then.
 
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juvenissun said:
Much more than that. It is for sociologist, politician, historian, medical doctors, etc. etc. You name it.
I actually learn quite a bit geology from the Bible. And the Bible is still the supreme guide to my geology study. My whole Ph.D. dissertation is, in fact, summarized in two verses of the Bible. I was so amazed and my faith to this Holy Book really started from then.
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I have been around a lot of doctors in my work, never have I seen one refer to the bible in their work, never.

If it works for you, that is terrific.
 
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juvenissun said:
Much more than that. It is for sociologist, politician, historian, medical doctors, etc. etc. You name it.
I actually learn quite a bit geology from the Bible. And the Bible is still the supreme guide to my geology study. My whole Ph.D. dissertation is, in fact, summarized in two verses of the Bible. I was so amazed and my faith to this Holy Book really started from then.
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Which Bible verse do you use when you are deciding between a narrow or broad range antibiotic?
 
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bhsmte said:
I have been around a lot of doctors in my work, never have I seen one refer to the bible in their work, never.

If it works for you, that is terrific.
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That is normal. I do not refer to the Bible in any of my work either. The Bible gives guide, point out direction, but is not a direct reference in science. The verse of Bible I quoted in my dissertation is put directly behind the cover page. It is not an uncommon way to give credit either.

My current works are ALL guided by the Biblical implications. The problems are too complicated. Without the Biblical guidance, I will totally lose my focus.
 
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juvenissun said:
One has idea and question raised by creationism. One has not.
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Can you be a bit more specific?
This doesn't answer the question at all.

You said/implied that there is plenty of material to teach.
I'm just asking for a couple of examples.

Saying "one includes creationism and the other doesn't" isn't helpfull at all.
In fact, it only fuels the idea that there really is nothing to teach.
 
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juvenissun said:
Much more than that. It is for sociologist, politician, historian, medical doctors, etc. etc. You name it.
I actually learn quite a bit geology from the Bible. And the Bible is still the supreme guide to my geology study. My whole Ph.D. dissertation is, in fact, summarized in two verses of the Bible. I was so amazed and my faith to this Holy Book really started from then.
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I'ld love to read your dessertation.
 
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