What's on your mind?

[Hawthorne]

Ever had emotions so pent up that when you start to feel excitement then it seems like all of them come rushing out at the same time, and all you end up feeling is rage?

No, pent up emotions make me feel despair.

The only time I feel rage is when I'm thinking about King James Only arguments.

 

[Elizabeth8393]

I completely understand that.

 

[Hawthorne]

My Bible and Rivulets & Violets should be coming tomorrow.

In other news, tomorrow marks a workload coming down on me like Madame... er... G. I'm not complaining, though. I'm glad for the opportunity, and it's nice to get it out of the way. Now, if only it would grow dark at a reasonable hour for me to go to bed early.

 

[High Fidelity]

My Bible and Rivulets & Violets should be coming tomorrow.

In other news, tomorrow marks a workload coming down on me like Madame... er... G.

Just a new Bible or trying out a new translation?

 

[Hawthorne]

Just a new Bible or trying out a new translation?

Yes, and no. It's the RSVSCE. I normally use the RSV (second edition) in the Oxford Annotated Bible, but I decided to grab the copy put out by Ignatius Press which has a better binding, more aesthetically-pleasing cover, and it'll save me from having to use my RSVSCE New Testament and switching back to Oxford for the Old Testament. Also, the deutercanonicals appear as an appendix in Oxford, whereas they are integrated in Ignatius.

 

[High Fidelity]

Ahh, fair enough

I'd quite like a Cambridge Pitt Minion for church and a nicely bound bible for at home, but hopefully they'll be the last bibles I need to buy, unless they release a more accurate English translation.

 

[Hawthorne]

Ahh, fair enough

I'd quite like a Cambridge Pitt Minion for church and a nicely bound bible for at home, but hopefully they'll be the last bibles I need to buy, unless they release a more accurate English translation.

Ah, which version were you considering in Pitt Minion?

The last bibles you'll need to buy! To be honest, I've been wanting to start collecting Robert Alter's translation and commentaries of the Hebrew Bible. I have Genesis, and it's quite good.

 

[kittysbecute]

I've been procrastinating for quite some time now. It's hard to stop.

 

[Hawthorne]

I've been procrastinating for quite some time now. It's hard to stop.

I suggest putting it off until a future time.

 

[kittysbecute]

I just had a long conversation with my cat.

I suggest putting it off until a future time.

I plan on it.

 

[High Fidelity]

Ah, which version were you considering in Pitt Minion?

The last bibles you'll need to buy! To be honest, I've been wanting to start collecting Robert Alter's translation and commentaries of the Hebrew Bible. I have Genesis, and it's quite good.

I'll get it in NASB, no doubt. I was fond of the ESV but it seems the NASB is the most accurate English translation going at the moment, so I've moved over to that at least for study purposes mostly.

It's easy to read as well. I normally found the easier to read translations tended more towards the thought-for-thought area whereas the more difficult ones to read tended towards the word-for-word area -- So the fact the NASB is as accurate as it is and as readable as it is, I really like it.

And that's cool. I've still been meaning to get an Interlinear. I really want to get in to the original languages at some point but I just don't know where I'll have the time with studying full-time and working full-time as of later this year.

 

[High Fidelity]

I've been procrastinating for quite some time now. It's hard to stop.

I procrastinate a lot too. It's awful lol.

 

[kittysbecute]

I'll get it in NASB, no doubt. I was fond of the ESV but it seems the NASB is the most accurate English translation going at the moment, so I've moved over to that at least for study purposes mostly.

Lately I've been reading the ESV (partly because my church is currently using that; and partly because I can find it free to download the ebook), I should try the NASB.

When I was taking an old testament class I used to listen to the ESV audio book that my dad bought; while reading along with my NIV (1984) or NKJV. I think it's interesting sometimes to read different translations side by side.

 

[Hawthorne]

I'll get it in NASB, no doubt. I was fond of the ESV but it seems the NASB is the most accurate English translation going at the moment, so I've moved over to that at least for study purposes mostly.

It's easy to read as well. I normally found the easier to read translations tended more towards the thought-for-thought area whereas the more difficult ones to read tended towards the word-for-word area -- So the fact the NASB is as accurate as it is and as readable as it is, I really like it.

And that's cool. I've still been meaning to get an Interlinear. I really want to get in to the original languages at some point but I just don't know where I'll have the time with studying full-time and working full-time as of later this year.

Aye, ESV is pretty much an Evangelical-minded revision of the ESV. The RSVSCE (which has some different renderings than the normal RSV) reads very similar to the ESV. Leland Ryken's involvement with the ESV is to its credit, however.

NASB is good. I haven't used it too much because of some mental aversions which I cannot identify with certainty.

I feel that dynamic equivalence has unjustly received a bad reputation, as anyone who has tried to translate something can attest: words have numerous meanings and subtleties. I generally prefer a literal translation, but dynamic equivalence has its place. Literal translations also tend to obscure the many puns and literary devices which exist in the Hebrew, while this problem is minimal for a dynamic equivalence translation philosophy. Ideally, I'd like to see a parallel bible including new translations done by the same committee and translators, one literal, one dynamic equivalence.

 

[High Fidelity]

Lately I've been reading the ESV (partly because my church is currently using that; and partly because I can find it free to download the ebook), I should try the NASB.

When I was taking an old testament class I used to listen to the ESV audio book that my dad bought; while reading along with my NIV (1984) or NKJV. I think it's interesting sometimes to read different translations side by side.

Yeah the ESV is an incredible translation as well. When you buy the study bible(Even if you no longer use the translation, the study notes are amazing and incredibly affordable) you get a code for the whole bible and resources online that you can use for study on the go too.

I thought that was really cool. My ESV study bible stands proud on my desk

The NASB reads very similarly.

 

[High Fidelity]

Ideally, I'd like to see a parallel bible including new translations done by the same committee and translators, one literal, one dynamic equivalence.

That would be cool!

I used the ESV for quite a long time. Started out with a King James, my first study bible was an ESV and I loved the translation and so went to that and now I am using the NASB which reads similarly.

 

[Hawthorne]

That would be cool!

I used the ESV for quite a long time. Started out with a King James, my first study bible was an ESV and I loved the translation and so went to that and now I am using the NASB which reads similarly.

The King James Version is a monument, perhaps one of the cornerstones of English literature. Just as Pope's translation of The Iliad is Pope and not Homer, the KJV is English literature. It was made four-hundred years ago and there is simply more linguistic awareness at this time.

The ESV Study Bible looks very nice. A friend of mine picked up the paperback, and my goodness that print rivals the compact Oxford English Dictionary. A different format might be better, and it's pretty handy having the references available online.

 

[kittysbecute]

Yeah the ESV is an incredible translation as well. When you buy the study bible(Even if you no longer use the translation, the study notes are amazing and incredibly affordable) you get a code for the whole bible and resources online that you can use for study on the go too.

I thought that was really cool. My ESV study bible stands proud on my desk

The NASB reads very similarly.

The last few years I've been using an ESV bible app to read on my phone. I prefer NIV (1984) though. Perhaps because that was my first bible. But I guess the way it's written makes a lot more sense to me than many other english translations I've tried. Not sure why it is, but it feels more "in my language"; I don't think I've given other versions a good enough chance yet though.
I have looked in book stores for a NIV (1984 edition) but they never stock them anymore. I have two copies of it - the kids adventure study bible I got for my 8th birthday that has excellent binding; and another one I bought more recently that I don't trust the binding not to fall apart later. I read that one when I want a solid non e-book version to read.
The only other english bible translation I got into reading was the NKJV and that was because of several private schools I went to growing up required it for memorizing verses or reading along in bible classes.
I will consider looking for the ESV study bible. I have definitely enjoyed the NIV study bibles I've used over the years.

 

[Hawthorne]

Well, I think it's about time for me to take off. I hope everyone is well, and has a beautiful afternoon.

 

[High Fidelity]

The King James Version is a monument, perhaps one of the cornerstones of English literature. Just as Pope's translation of The Iliad is Pope and not Homer, the KJV is English literature. It was made four-hundred years ago and there is simply more linguistic awareness at this time.

The ESV Study Bible looks very nice. A friend of mine picked up the paperback, and my goodness that print rivals the compact Oxford English Dictionary. A different format might be better, and it's pretty handy having the references available online.

Indeed, the KJV certainly has a majesty about it!

A Pastor I like to listen to said he feels the KJV has a dignity since lost on newer translations, and he's an NASB reader too.

I still like to read it occasionally and it will always hold a place in my heard as it's the translation I first read when I came to Christ.