Is Scripture MISSING Dogmas? (2)

[fhansen]

So what is it?

The precious shed blood of Christ and what?

Let's add water baptism to His perfect finished work.

What else should we add to the precious shed blood of Christ for the salvation of men?

Do we need to add faith-or is Jesus' shed blood sufficient for universal salvation? Do we need to profess our faith? Do we need to persevere, strive, be vigilant, invest our talents? Do we need to feed the hungry and clothe the naked? Do we need to refrain from sin, to continue to live in the Spirit/remain in Christ? Do we need to love? All these are said by Scripture to be necessary.

 

[Albion]

Do we need to add faith-or is Jesus' shed blood sufficient for universal salvation? Do we need to profess our faith? Do we need to persevere, strive, be vigilant, invest our talents? Do we need to feed the hungry and clothe the naked? Do we need to refrain from sin, to continue to live in the Spirit/remain in Christ? Do we need to love? All these are said by Scripture to be necessary.

Well, not exactly so. However, the main point of your comment is important.

It's not as though Christ's sacrifice saved everyone automatically, period.

Therefore, to talk as though that's all that we need to know is not very convincing.

 

[Root of Jesse]

You mean the guy there who is no different than you or me who pretends that he is enabled by God to turn bread into God..

Again, to use your words, sheer nonsense. The 'guy' is different. Whether you think so or not. He doesn't have to pretend, he's ordained. By God. He doesn't turn bread into God-get it through your skull. He asks God to do what he said he would do.

It's plain ridiculous not to mention a complete attack on the person of Christ.. as if some guy in your assembly is turning a tiny piece of bread into God.

Some guy who's been ordained...

Then you're all pretending that you pass God through your digestive tract and out your bowels.. yeah, that's glorifying to God.. right?

I don't think you'd understand if I tried to explain, given your past understanding...

You mean when he calls it the body of Christ.. LOL, we all know what the body of Christ is, it's the church of God.



Paul warns them of despising what...

The church of God.. because that is what the body of Christ is.

See for yourself;

What? have ye not houses to eat and to drink in? or despise ye the church of God, and shame them that have not?

huh?

 

[Root of Jesse]

Only thing is that scripture makes it perfectly clear that God's Son ALONE purged our sins.

God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high

I realize that scripture doesn't matter to many here although that doesn't change the truth one bit.

So, you would say "Get outta here, Mom, I don't need your help." I got it.

 

[ThatTrueLight]

Again, to use your words, sheer nonsense. The 'guy' is different. Whether you think so or not. He doesn't have to pretend, he's ordained. By God.

Really, where did you learn that God ordained men to turn a little piece of bread into Almighty God?

And how does that glorify God when you pass him through your digestive tract and out your bowel?

 

[ThatTrueLight]

So, you would say "Get outta here, Mom, I don't need your help." I got it.

Why would I call her Mom, the Lord Jesus Christ has no beginning nor end of days?

 

[Root of Jesse]

Why would I call her Mom, the Lord Jesus Christ has no beginning nor end of days?

She is his mother, man. She bore him in her womb, she birthed him. She's his mother.

By your reasoning, why would he call God "Father"?

 

[Root of Jesse]

Really, where did you learn that God ordained men to turn a little piece of bread into Almighty God?

And how does that glorify God when you pass him through your digestive tract and out your bowel?

If you want to believe that Jesus said to do something, and then didn't really want us to do it, fine.

And I'm not going to try and explain these things to you. If you want to learn, go to a Catholic Church and ask. They'll teach it to you in about 9 months to a year.

 

[Albion]

Any chance we'll get back to the topic of this thread--Is Scripture missing any dogmas?

 

[ThatTrueLight]

She is his mother, man. She bore him in her womb, she birthed him. She's his mother.

The Lord Jesus Christ existed long before He came into this world. This is fundamental Christian knowledge. So please explain how she is His Mother when He existed before her and when she falls under His creation.

By your reasoning, why would he call God "Father"?

If you don't know by now that scripture is my reasoning, then you're simply not paying attention.

And No, Joseph isn't His Father.

 

[ThatTrueLight]

If you want to believe that Jesus said to do something, and then didn't really want us to do it, fine.

And I'm not going to try and explain these things to you. If you want to learn, go to a Catholic Church and ask. They'll teach it to you in about 9 months to a year.

Why so they can tell me the same nonsense I hear right here.. how that some guy in your assembly says some prayer which turns a little piece of bread into God so that you can consume him and pass him through your digestive system and then out your bowel?

That's probably the most insulting thing I've ever heard concerning the Lord Jesus Christ.

 

[Souldier]

That about covers it. The scriptures our our guide, and there are no dogmas missing.



1 John 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.

Philippians 2:12 Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling; 13 for it is God who works in you both to will and to do for His good pleasure.

John 14:23 Jesus answered and said to him, “If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word; and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our home with him. 24 He who does not love Me does not keep My words; and the word which you hear is not Mine but the Father’s who sent Me.
25 “These things I have spoken to you while being present with you. 26 But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you.

Philippians 4:8 Finally, brethren, whatever things are true, whatever things are noble, whatever things are just, whatever things are pure, whatever things are lovely, whatever things are of good report, if there is any virtue and if there is anything praiseworthy—meditate on these things. 9 The things which you learned and received and heard and saw in me, these do, and the God of peace will be with you.

 

[Root of Jesse]

Why so they can tell me the same nonsense I hear right here.. how that some guy in your assembly says some prayer which turns a little piece of bread into God so that you can consume him and pass him through your digestive system and then out your bowel?

That's probably the most insulting thing I've ever heard concerning the Lord Jesus Christ.

If that's what happened, you'd be right. But it's not, so you're wrong. But if you were REALLY interested, that's what you should do...

I'll be gone for a few days, so see ya!

 

[Root of Jesse]

That about covers it. The scriptures our our guide, and there are no dogmas missing.



1 John 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.

Philippians 2:12 Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling; 13 for it is God who works in you both to will and to do for His good pleasure.

John 14:23 Jesus answered and said to him, “If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word; and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our home with him. 24 He who does not love Me does not keep My words; and the word which you hear is not Mine but the Father’s who sent Me.
25 “These things I have spoken to you while being present with you. 26 But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you.

Philippians 4:8 Finally, brethren, whatever things are true, whatever things are noble, whatever things are just, whatever things are pure, whatever things are lovely, whatever things are of good report, if there is any virtue and if there is anything praiseworthy—meditate on these things. 9 The things which you learned and received and heard and saw in me, these do, and the God of peace will be with you.

We aren't missing any dogmas, none at all. It's youse guys missing da dogmas.

 

[Souldier]

We aren't missing any dogmas, none at all. It's youse guys missing da dogmas.

I wasn't suggesting anyone was missing anything. I was only suggesting that the bible isn't missing anything.


That about covers it. The scriptures our our guide, and there are no dogmas missing.



1 John 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.

Philippians 2:12 Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling; 13 for it is God who works in you both to will and to do for His good pleasure.

John 14:23 Jesus answered and said to him, “If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word; and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our home with him. 24 He who does not love Me does not keep My words; and the word which you hear is not Mine but the Father’s who sent Me.
25 “These things I have spoken to you while being present with you. 26 But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you.

Philippians 4:8 Finally, brethren, whatever things are true, whatever things are noble, whatever things are just, whatever things are pure, whatever things are lovely, whatever things are of good report, if there is any virtue and if there is anything praiseworthy—meditate on these things. 9 The things which you learned and received and heard and saw in me, these do, and the God of peace will be with you.

 

[Souldier]

And by that i mean that the bible isn't missing anything that we need to know. THe holy spirit teaches us those things and guides us into everything Christ wants us to know.

 

[tadoflamb]

That about covers it. The scriptures our our guide, and there are no dogmas missing.

Which dogmas are those? Please be concise.

 

[Souldier]

Which dogmas are those? Please be concise.

If Christ said that he would teach us all things (if we kept His words )then what is missing?


1 John 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.

 

[tadoflamb]

If Christ said that he would teach us all things (if we kept His words )then what is missing?

What dogmas are in the bible? Please be concise.

 

[Souldier]

What dogmas are in the bible? Please be concise.

The question is not what is in the bible but rather what is not. There is nothing missing.

Its like trying to debate which came first, the chicken or the egg?