Why Parallax doesn't work

[Loudmouth]

Very funny.

Why would the universe be any different out by a star than it is in the lab?

 

[time]

To be honest, I'm not even seeing how it's a coincidence. Some stars are single, some are multiple. Ours is one of the two options available. Not so much coincidence as just incidence.

So you really don't know at all why our solar system and world stand out as amazing and unique. I just can't see this as some cosmic coincidence.


Now, what better fits the bible and the idea it was all created? I would think that if we assumed a difference in deep space that this would best fit. So why not?

 

[selfinflikted]

How is our solar system unique?

 

[time]

But it is consistent with showing it can race the same way across the universe.

No more than assuming that light from the stars is only seen after it starts to exist in our time area. So it isn't like you have any science on your side now is it? Heck, if we just need to grab a belief and assumption, why not grab God?

And what we see across the universe is consistent with what we see racing a particle around a lab.

Meaningless. That is like saying...'how light can exist in our space and time seems normal, and we truly believe in our hearts that it must be similar everywhere, despite the ghastly ungodly implications'

Do you or any of your fellow skeptics have any evidence . . any evidence at all . . that laws of physics are any different billions of light years distant and/or billions of years in the past?

I have a hunch. So why go with the hunches of science, since they can offer no proof at all here? Why not have fun and be happy, and accept God's word?

I thought not. Meanwhile, we have evidence they were the same, so that evidence trumps your lack of evidence.

There is no 'that' evidence that was posted here yet. Fancy that.


Why don't we all accept that reality?

 

[time]

How is our solar system unique?

You live here.

 

[Loudmouth]

No more than assuming that light from the stars is only seen after it starts to exist in our time area.

"What we see takes place in our time bubble . . ."--time

We see stars. Therefore, they are in our time bubble.

 

[Loudmouth]

You live here.

Why does living in a solar system alter the fundamental forces of physics in that solar system?

 

[selfinflikted]

You live here.

Oh. Word games. I thought this was going to be a serious discussion. Gotcha.

 

[Paul of Eugene OR]

No more than assuming that light from the stars is only seen after it starts to exist in our time area. So it isn't like you have any science on your side now is it? Heck, if we just need to grab a belief and assumption, why not grab God?

I believe in God, and I believe you can trust Him to be consistent.

Meaningless. That is like saying...'how light can exist in our space and time seems normal, and we truly believe in our hearts that it must be similar everywhere, despite the ghastly ungodly implications'

I fail to see any ungodly implications in having an orderly, consitent universe across vast reaches of space and time.

I have a hunch. So why go with the hunches of science, since they can offer no proof at all here?

Most of us think that witnessing things is evidence for things, and you don't, which we think is odd.

Why not have fun and be happy, and accept God's word?

As revealed in the stars, the rocks, and the genomes, that's what I do!

Why do you wish to disregard the direct handiwork of God and what it tells us?

 

[[serious]]

You live here.

I live in my house too. Is my house then unique?

 

[time]

"What we see takes place in our time bubble . . ."--time

We see stars. Therefore, they are in our time bubble.

No. The light from them obviously has to be though.

 

[time]

Why does living in a solar system alter the fundamental forces of physics in that solar system?

It is not living in the time and space God ordained for us to live in, that determines what laws exist here. We simply deal with what we are dealt.

 

[time]

Oh. Word games. I thought this was going to be a serious discussion. Gotcha.

Why, do you live somewhere beyond the earth? How would mankind and life on earth not be unique?

 

[time]

I believe in God, and I believe you can trust Him to be consistent.

So you feel that the ordinances of heaven must be identical to earth. OK. However, the bible indicates that this present world is actually far far different than what is coming, and heaven. So one cannot take a difference between this current world and that which is to come as a lack of consistency. Jesus rose from the dead, was that inconsistent with His pre risen body?

I fail to see any ungodly implications in having an orderly, consitent universe across vast reaches of space and time.

Let me help then. To assume the same time and space as cosmology gurus do, leads to conclusions like God never really created the stars or man, or the world as He says He did.

Most of us think that witnessing things is evidence for things, and you don't, which we think is odd.

It is simply a matter of knowing what we witness is. It is odd to witness something four feet from your face and insist on making the universe and all time and space conform to that.

As revealed in the stars, the rocks, and the genomes, that's what I do!

God is not revealed in the beliefs of man about what rocks say. Or tea leaves. Or stars. Those who claimed to read the stars were with us from the days of Egypt.

Why do you wish to disregard the direct handiwork of God and what it tells us?

I do not call the interpretations of man, that are void of wisdom and God..'handiwork' of God. To do so would be folly indeed.

 

[time]

We do not know if it is or it is not, it is not unique just because you or I might want it to be unique.

I do know it is unique. Far as man knows, there are no lions or mankind on mars, or on Jupiter or anywhere. Even out planet is unique in this solar system (actually better called the earth system, as the sun was made for earth!)

 

[[serious]]

Why, do you live somewhere beyond the earth? How would mankind and life on earth not be unique?

Same way my house wouldn't be unique. if earth is unique due to us living here, my house is unique due to me living there.

 

[[serious]]

I do know it is unique. Far as man knows, there are no lions or mankind on mars, or on Jupiter or anywhere. Even out planet is unique in this solar system (actually better called the earth system, as the sun was made for earth!)

What other solar system have we checked for life?

 

[Justatruthseeker]

I believe in God, and I believe you can trust Him to be consistent.

He is consistent, rulers shrink under acceleration, time slows. It's you that refuses to accept that consistency. Instead you tell me that two rulers of different lengths read the same distance.

I fail to see any ungodly implications in having an orderly, consitent universe across vast reaches of space and time.

Then why do you accept expansion theory, in which the rulers must be constantly shrinking, the clocks constantly slowing, never the same from day to day?

Most of us think that witnessing things is evidence for things, and you don't, which we think is odd.

We have witnessed rulers shrink and clocks slow. Why then insist they don't, which we think is odd.

Why do you wish to disregard the direct handiwork of God and what it tells us?

Yet mainstream is the one denying the direct handiwork of God and what it tells us.

If expansion theory is correct, then rulers are constantly shrinking, clocks continually slowing. Neither time or distance the same today as they were yesterday. No longer any continuity to the past. God's handiwork no longer capable of correlation as things are in a constant state of flux.

 

[florida2]

I do know it is unique. Far as man knows, there are no lions or mankind on mars, or on Jupiter or anywhere. Even out planet is unique in this solar system (actually better called the earth system, as the sun was made for earth!)

As far as we know, yes, but more exoplanets are discovered all the time. Telescope technology is improving to the point that we will soon be able to detect the composition of the atmospheres of these distant planets.

To think we are alone in the universe is arrogant and highly unlikely.

There's nothing special about life on Earth. We're simply made up of the most abundant elements - all the common stuff floating around which is exactly what you'd expect life to evolve as. If we were made of rare elements, you might have a point.

 

[Justatruthseeker]

What other solar system have we checked for life?

Exactly, so you can't say there is, and you can't say there ain't. It's unknowable. Declarations of either neither fact nor based upon anything factual.

But I would assume since the same God made everything, the odds are that life exists multiple places. The Bible is simply Mankind's history - not the history of the universe.