Why Parallax doesn't work

[dad]

You've lost interest in alternate state situations? I thought that was your baby!

When God describes a future that is different that is one thing...when you obsess on a clock in the far side of the room maybe being a little different, that is another.

 

[TLK Valentine]

When God describes a future that is different that is one thing...when you obsess on a clock in the far side of the room maybe being a little different, that is another.

So God told you that time is different in outer space, but not across the room?

 

[Paul of Eugene OR]

When God describes a future that is different that is one thing...when you obsess on a clock in the far side of the room maybe being a little different, that is another.

Well, you ability to declare what scientists may observe and what scientists should ignore is, in my own mind, highly suspect.

In fact, I have an alternate theory about what scientists should ignore, and that would be your objections to the findings of science.

 

[[serious]]

Your words, not mine

Ah, but in a different state past, time might not always move forward. What if his parents were born when the nations were divided, but this dividing caused a wormhole that sent them 200 years into the past? Didn't think of THAT did you?

 

[Aureus]

Why would any rational person care if a clock was a tiny fraction of a fraction of a fraction of a second faster or slower anywhere on earth? What sort of diversion attempt is this?

It would cause significant problems for GPS systems. Indeed we already have to account for some minute variations in the passing of time because the speed GPS satellites travel at have relativistic implications.

 

[dad]

So God told you that time is different in outer space, but not across the room?

God said this world and all that is in it will pass away, which means it is a temporary arrangement. Temporal. What He said about space is not really the same. There is the heavens, and then the heaven of heavens above that. From my understanding, demons live in space, because an angel of God was delayed coming to earth one time it mentions in Daniel. The angel had to call in help from a heavy hitter angel, to escort him through. (Micheal) Michael also will be involved when the devil is cast from there with his angels to earth. We also saw that the windows of heaven were opened at the flood. Some interpret (as I do) this as meaning that a conduit or passage or windows opened up that allowed water from the far side of the universe to come here. That all sounds like there are some different things going on in space than here. We also see that the stars were created to mark time for earth.
So no, I would not set the clocks of the universe to earth clocks. Thank you very much.

 

[dad]

Well, you ability to declare what scientists may observe and what scientists should ignore is, in my own mind, highly suspect.

Scientists observe here. Their coloring of what they see to make it oppose God's word has alerted me to the fact that everything they say about the future or past or far universe is suspect, and more than that...plain wrong.
It is better to believe God than man. Cursed is man that trusteth in man.

 

[dad]

It would cause significant problems for GPS systems.

There ARE no gps systems beyond earth area. Try to focus.

Indeed we already have to account for some minute variations in the passing of time because the speed GPS satellites travel at have relativistic implications.

I think all know this here. That is why I mentioned little variations here. The pattern of time change as we go up is clear.

 

[TLK Valentine]

God said this world and all that is in it will pass away, which means it is a temporary arrangement. Temporal. What He said about space is not really the same. There is the heavens, and then the heaven of heavens above that.

Did God say that time was different in outer space?

From my understanding, <snip>

You mean guesswork.

Did God tell you that time was different in different parts of this world?

 

[Queller]

Why do you not apply everywhere!!?

Idiotic non sequitur. I'm not everywhere but time is.

What is the evidence that time runs/moves/passes the same elsewhere in the universe?

I've already given you an example, the remaining effects of Supernova1987a undergo a continuing linear sequence of events over time that perfectly corresponds to time here on earth.

The bible says the stars were made for times here!

Therefore time would move the same at the locations of all those stars as it does here.

Whatever you know or do not know will never change what God said about this world not being permanent!

Which has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that the time of Jesus' return and the ending of this world is in the indefinite future.

Science does not know. God does.

Science does know and God knows what you espouse is nothing but pathetic assumptions without any supporting evidence.

 

[Loudmouth]

I challenge that claim.

Ever heard of a telescope?

I have no reason to doubt it.

Astronomers don't doubt their observations of stars across the galaxy for the same reason.

 

[Loudmouth]

What is the evidence that time runs/moves/passes the same elsewhere in the universe?

Our direct observations of the universe demonstrate that all of the same laws are operating exactly the same as they do on Earth. It is no different than watching an experiment across the room.

The bible says the stars were made for times here!

Whatever you know or do not know will never change what God said about this world not being permanent!

Science does not know. God does.

And here comes the circular reasoning.

 

[Strathos]

Then why bring it up at all? Are you saying that the gravitational lensing we see could also happen with real small stars?

If there was a star with the size and mass of a pumpkin like you suggest, the gravitational lensing effect it would create would be extant, but nigh-undetectable.

 

[dad]

Ever heard of a telescope?

You though a telescope provided data on time where the star is!!!? Hilarious. A telescope is basically a glass looking out from the fishbowl.

Astronomers don't doubt their observations of stars across the galaxy for the same reason.

So? They are religionists, brainwashed into accepting a certain belief system imposed onto the stars. They need not have doubts to make the universe very different than they claim.

What we observe is the crux of the matter here, not the observations themselves. We see a star far away...whooopee do! In our timespace what we see takes so much time to unfold. whoopee do!

 

[dad]

Idiotic non sequitur. I'm not everywhere but time is.

Idiotic claim. You have no idea where time is and is not.

I've already given you an example, the remaining effects of Supernova1987a undergo a continuing linear sequence of events over time that perfectly corresponds to time here on earth.

?? Perfectly? First they had to invent some stars that did the exploding, because only with a computer simulation could they cook up stars that would explode just right. Then they had to explain the rings, they had no clue were there so they said they were already there. They also use our timespace as the baseline for 'trigonometric' distances! The whole thing is wildly circular, and nothing like what you try to shove off on us here!

On top of all that, we see it IN our timezone, which means what we see has to be IN OUR TIME!

Therefore time would move the same at the locations of all those stars as it does here.

No. You would just make the same mental projection mistake on all of them!

Which has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that the time of Jesus' return and the ending of this world is in the indefinite future.

The stars will fall to earth at that time. Care to try again!!? Satan and his angels will be cast down to the world for a few years AT THAT TIME from space!
Hey, for all we know the spaceship that took Elijah up to heaven is bring him back down again for this grand event!!
Your view of space is so boring and lifeless.

 

[dad]

Our direct observations of the universe demonstrate that all of the same laws are operating exactly the same as they do on Earth. It is no different than watching an experiment across the room.

No. Your view of the stars demonstrates that you are wildly wrong to the core and can't make a case.


Stop the special pleading here, trying to beg us to accept your belief system foisted onto the stars!

 

[dad]

If there was a star with the size and mass of a pumpkin like you suggest, the gravitational lensing effect it would create would be extant, but nigh-undetectable.

Great so what does that tell us? It may tell us that gravity is not the same out there. Or maybe there are other causes for light bending! Maybe also that you got the distances wrong! We could go on and on here. Why assume we all must be bludgeoned into your particular godless belief system?

 

[Queller]

Idiotic claim. You have no idea where time is and is not.

Science does and I am capable of reading and understanding the basics. Therefore, yes I do know where time is (everywhere) and isn't (nowhere).

?? Perfectly? First they had to invent some stars that did the exploding, because only with a computer simulation could they cook up stars that would explode just right. Then they had to explain the rings, they had no clue were there so they said they were already there. They also use our timespace as the baseline for 'trigonometric' distances! The whole thing is wildly circular, and nothing like what you try to shove off on us here!

Everything you just said here is a lie.

On top of all that, we see it IN our timezone, which means what we see has to be IN OUR TIME!

No. You would just make the same mental projection mistake on all of them!

You just said that God put those stars here for us. If so, then the stars time must correspond with ours or else they are useless for us.

The stars will fall to earth at that time. Care to try again!!? Satan and his angels will be cast down to the world for a few years AT THAT TIME from space!

Which does nothing to change the fact that if you don't know when it is going to happen then it is in the indefinite future.

Hey, for all we know the spaceship that took Elijah up to heaven is bring him back down again for this grand event!!

Oh man, the stupidity makes my head hurt.

Your view of space is so boring and lifeless.

Right because a location in space where time doesn't exist is soooo lively and entertaining.

 

[Queller]

Great so what does that tell us? It may tell us that gravity is not the same out there. Or maybe there are other causes for light bending! Maybe also that you got the distances wrong! We could go on and on here. Why assume we all must be bludgeoned into your particular godless belief system?

Maybe space aliens have implanted a chip in your brain that makes you incapable of understanding even the simplest scientific concepts? That's just as likely as any of the other stuff you just claimed.

 

[dad]

Science does and I am capable of reading and understanding the basics. Therefore, yes I do know where time is (everywhere) and isn't (nowhere).

Prove it. You are talking through your hat.

You just said that God put those stars here for us. If so, then the stars time must correspond with ours or else they are useless for us.

You do not even know what a star is. Things correspond, don't worry. Why talk vague nonsense?

Which does nothing to change the fact that if you don't know when it is going to happen then it is in the indefinite future.

To you, maybe. But there isn't much that is definite for you apparently!


Yes, it is interesting to know that the stars involve a lot more than the hot gas science puts out.