Zelensky calls Russian team in Turkey ‘phony’ as Putin skips peace talks

[Michie]

What you need to know​

• Ukraine and Russia may hold talks in Turkey today – although there is confusion over who, if anyone, will attend. As of late afternoon Turkish time, there was still no official word on what would happen. The Kremlin says Russia’s President Vladimir Putin won’t be taking part, despite calling the talks himself.
• Ukraine’s President Volodymyr Zelensky says he’ll decide on the talks after a meeting with Turkey’s President Erdogan. He’s said he won’t meet anyone from the Russian side other than Putin, and dismissed the Russian delegation as “phony.”
• Another key figure who won’t be there is US President Donald Trump, who had repeatedly hinted that he might upend his Middle East travel schedule to join the negotiations. He said Putin’s absence didn’t disappoint him, and that “nothing” would happen on Ukraine until he meets him.
• Kyiv and Moscow are not known to have held direct talks at any level since soon after Moscow launched its unprovoked, full-scale invasion of Ukraine in February 2022. But the stakes are higher this time, as both Trump and Ukraine’s European allies said they would impose more sanctions on Moscow if it didn’t agree to a ceasefire.

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[John G.]

What we need to know:

* Putin was not part of the negotiation process in 2022. There's no reason he should be there now. The negotiations were held between experts f both countries and should continue as such.

* There was no "unprovoked, full-scale invasion of Ukraine in February 2022". There were barely 150,000 troops used in the original special military operation. As for "unprovoked", let us remember the 2014 violent overthrow of the Yanukovych government, the violations of the Minsk accord, the attack on Lugansk and Donetsk, the refusal of The Ukrainian government to rule out neutrality - contrary to international agreements, etc.

 

[Truth7t7]

What you need to know​

• Ukraine and Russia may hold talks in Turkey today – although there is confusion over who, if anyone, will attend. As of late afternoon Turkish time, there was still no official word on what would happen. The Kremlin says Russia’s President Vladimir Putin won’t be taking part, despite calling the talks himself.
• Ukraine’s President Volodymyr Zelensky says he’ll decide on the talks after a meeting with Turkey’s President Erdogan. He’s said he won’t meet anyone from the Russian side other than Putin, and dismissed the Russian delegation as “phony.”
• Another key figure who won’t be there is US President Donald Trump, who had repeatedly hinted that he might upend his Middle East travel schedule to join the negotiations. He said Putin’s absence didn’t disappoint him, and that “nothing” would happen on Ukraine until he meets him.
• Kyiv and Moscow are not known to have held direct talks at any level since soon after Moscow launched its unprovoked, full-scale invasion of Ukraine in February 2022. But the stakes are higher this time, as both Trump and Ukraine’s European allies said they would impose more sanctions on Moscow if it didn’t agree to a ceasefire.

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Zelensky sent his team and so did Putin, the US uses the same protocol, neither Zelensky nor Putin were present is my understanding

Zelensky is doing nothing more than looking for a 30 day cease fire to regroup, Putins Russia is Annihilating the Ukrainians daily

Zelensky has drug every able body man off the streets, busses, and out of homes for mobilization, the majority are all dead now, Zelensky is on his knees out of soldiers and Putin knows this, as the Russian pressure is ramped up

It's purely Zelensky's pride in saving face, he doesn't want to give up his power

Zelensky surrender, save Ukranian lives!

 

[Truth7t7]

What we need to know:

* Putin was not part of the negotiation process in 2022. There's no reason he should be there now. The negotiations were held between experts f both countries and should continue as such.

* There was no "unprovoked, full-scale invasion of Ukraine in February 2022". There were barely 150,000 troops used in the original special military operation. As for "unprovoked", let us remember the 2014 violent overthrow of the Yanukovych government, the violations of the Minsk accord, the attack on Lugansk and Donetsk, the refusal of The Ukrainian government to rule out neutrality - contrary to international agreements, etc.

Barrack Obama, Joe Biden, and their secretary of state Victoria Nuland & Ukraine Ambassador Geoffrey Pyatt started the conflict in Ukraine, they planned the overthrow of its government in the Maidan Coup Feb 2014 and installed their puppet government, Obama and his Admin were the aggressors against Russia starting the conflict, and at the end of the 4:19 conversation below "Bidens Willing"!

Victoria Nuland, leaked phone call plans the Ukraine coup and its US replacement government! YouTube Call 4:19 Feb 4, 2014​

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Radio Free Europe​

Brussels, Kyiv, Moscow React To Leaked Nuland Phone Call​

February 07, 2014

 

[John G.]

Barrack Obama, Joe Biden, and their secretary of state Victoria Nuland & Ukraine Ambassador Geoffrey Pyatt started the conflict in Ukraine, they planned the overthrow of its government in the Maidan Coup Feb 2014 and installed their puppet government, Obama and his Admin were the aggressors against Russia starting the conflict, and at the end of the 4:19 conversation below "Bidens Willing"!

Absolutely disgusting!
Nuland, Pyatt and their higher-ups started the mess with the bloody coup, the aggression against Donetsk / Lugansk and the current fighting.
Let's also give honorary mention to Biden, Boris J. and the EU leadership or unnecessarily prolonging the conflict.

 

[Truth7t7]

Absolutely disgusting!
Nuland, Pyatt and their higher-ups started the mess with the bloody coup, the aggression against Donetsk / Lugansk and the current fighting.
Let's also give honorary mention to Biden, Boris J. and the EU leadership or unnecessarily prolonging the conflict.

Think of the untold Ukrainian and Russian lives that could have been spared in ending the war in April 2022, the blood of hundreds of thousands is definitely on Boris Johnson's hands "Evil" a scary thought come judgement day!​

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European Conservative​

Official: Johnson Forced Kyiv To Refuse Russian Peace Deal​

Nov 27, 2023

Russia was ready to end the war and withdraw its troops in exchange for Ukrainian neutrality just a few months after the invasion began and was refused partly because of ex-British PM Boris Johnson, who pressured Kyiv into continuing the fight, David Arahamiya, the leader of Ukraine’s ruling party confirmed in a recent interview, published on Friday, November 24th.

Russia was “ready to end the war if we took neutrality,” Ukraine’s former top negotiator confirmed, but Boris Johnson said, “let’s just fight.”

The lawmaker recalled that while the negotiations between Kyiv and Moscow were underway in Istanbul, Johnson unexpectedly arrived in Kyiv on April 9th, 2022, telling Zelensky that he shouldn’t sign anything with them at all—and let’s just fight.

 

[Truth7t7]

Absolutely disgusting!
Nuland, Pyatt and their higher-ups started the mess with the bloody coup, the aggression against Donetsk / Lugansk and the current fighting.
Let's also give honorary mention to Biden, Boris J. and the EU leadership or unnecessarily prolonging the conflict.

Institute For The Study Of War (Think Tank) $$ Who's Behind The Scenes? $$

(Founder-Kimberly Kagan) for the institute for the study of War is married to (Frederick Kagan) who is the brother of (Robert Kagan) who is married to (Victoria Nuland) who is Bidens representative in the current Ukraine conflict, she was instrumental in what is taking place currently in Ukraine, with her history going back to Obama's administration in 2014 Ukraine, a $Warmonger$

The institute for the study of War is headed up by (General Jack Keane),who sits on the boards of all the military defense contractors, he's also a $Warmonger$ his council and strategy is backed by $Money$ not honest military council and evaluation can be found in $Jack Keane$ IMHO

ConsortiumNews​

Family Business of Perpetual War​

March 20, 2015

Exclusive: Victoria Nuland and Robert Kagan have a great mom-and-pop business going. From the State Department, she generates wars and from op-ed pages he demands Congress buy more weapons. There’s a pay-off, too, as grateful military contractors kick in money to think tanks where other Kagans work, writes Robert Parry.

Neoconservative pundit Robert Kagan and his wife, Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland, run a remarkable family business: she has sparked a hot war in Ukraine and helped launch Cold War II with Russia and he steps in to demand that Congress jack up military spending so America can meet these new security threats.

This extraordinary husband-and-wife duo makes quite a one-two punch for the Military-Industrial Complex, an inside-outside team that creates the need for more military spending, applies political pressure to ensure higher appropriations, and watches as thankful weapons manufacturers lavish grants on like-minded hawkish Washington think tanks.