Things to consider about the Ten Commandments

[tzadik]

Your argument is they did and thus aren't strangers and a mixed multitude any longer according to the Book of the Law.

lol. You're a clairvoyant now and able to read my mind?

My point is that just as then---we Gentiles are excluded from the the covenants, promises and excluded from the household of God, unless we are grafted in through Christ!

Back then the gentiles, strangers and foreigners JOINED themselves to the God of Israel (like Ruth did), claiming and putting their faith in the God of Israel as God, entering into the covenant with Him and joining HIS people!

Same thing today. Nothing's changed.

 

[from scratch]

I like PHARISEE Shaul uphold torah; you do not.

I agree with PHARISEE Shaul in every aspect.

 

[from scratch]

Read Deuteronomy 29 and Joshua 8.

29 These are the words of the covenant, which the Lord commanded Moses to make with the children of Israel in the land of Moab, beside the covenant which he made with them in Horeb.

Joshua 8 does nothing for your cause.

 

[from scratch]

Therein lies the problem, reading into what is said what you desire to think not what truly is by trying to understand the author behind what is being said. If you had even tried to understand me you would know I wasn't talking literally about washing pigs that doesn't make any sense so you would have checked a search engine and looked for an alternative definition of the word "hogwash" and then see if that was more fitting instead of asking questions which show IMO a lack of observative awareness on your part.

He seems to love arguing about anything having no real cause to fight for.

 

[from scratch]

You read invisible words that are not written; some people call that dishonesty. It is not written in heb 10 that the first covenant was taken away; bottom line; period.

1 Cor 4

6 Now in what I have said here, brothers, I have used myself and Apollos as examples to teach you not to go beyond what the Tanakh says, proudly taking the side of one leader against another.

Surely context is a false assumption and idea.

 

[from scratch]

You have not answered my simple question which requires a simple answer. This is not a rhetorical question: do you like eating pork that has been washed. The answer to my question is a simple "yes" or "no".

Matt 5
37 Just let your ‘Yes’ be a simple ‘Yes,’ and your ‘No’ a simple ‘No’; anything more than this has its origin in evil.


Have you ever it said: "If pigs had wings they could fly"? I don't think pigs grow wings, perhaps you know, since you like to eat swine. When you go to the store to buy your meat; have you ever seen hogs with wings?

You haven't seen those pigs with wings? You've been cheated. Hang around and Lambster will show them to us again.

I'm also in awe that you yourself can't do (say yes or no) as you request above when we ask.

 

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Voila! My point exactly.

Sin = transgressing God's Law.

Sin would not exist unless God's Law exists.

Cain could not be a murderer unless God's Law states "do not murder"!
Sodom and Gomorra cannot be destroyed for sodomy, unless God's Law prohibits homosexuality!
King Abimilech would've not need to confess to the sin of adultery, unless God's Law prohibits adultery.

For until the law sin was in the world.

You forget that little word also in your supporting verse you didn't quote. The verse doesn't say only.

 

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Whether they keep the holy commandments or not, doesn't exempt you from keeping them. Eve ate the forbidden fruit, so I guess Adam thought it was ok to eat it. Do you behave like Adam and Eve?

Dodge ball?

 

[from scratch]

Your law-phobia is concerning...

Sorry to bother you with the law of liberty and grace.

 

[Sophrosyne]

He seems to love arguing about anything having no real cause to fight for.

Sort of like this guy called Don Quioxote in a sense

 

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I don't understand how this directly applies to you?

6 But now the work Yeshua has been given to do is far superior to theirs, just as the covenant he mediates is better. For this covenant has been given as Torah on the basis of better promises.



“‘See! The days are coming,’ says Adonai,
‘when I will establish
over the house of Isra’el and over the house of Y’hudah
a new covenant.

That appears to be flagrant altering of the Bible.

 

[from scratch]

Do you eat bacon with your eggs this morning? Do you love eating bacon, swine, pig feet, pig intestines? Do you like the taste of swine? Every time I read your posts, I keep smelling pork breath.

We'll have some dinner mints after breakfast.

I guess you could be in the pig pen trying to kiss them.

 

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Thank you for you honesty, you don't obey Moses. I accept Genesis to Revelation as gospel truth.

Luke 16
31 But he replied, ‘If they won’t listen to Moshe and the Prophets, they won’t be convinced even if someone rises from the dead!’”

Has anyone said there are 10 commandments?

 

[from scratch]

lol. You're a clairvoyant now and able to read my mind?

My point is that just as then---we Gentiles are excluded from the the covenants, promises and excluded from the household of God, unless we are grafted in through Christ!

Back then the gentiles, strangers and foreigners JOINED themselves to the God of Israel (like Ruth did), claiming and putting their faith in the God of Israel as God, entering into the covenant with Him and joining HIS people!

Same thing today. Nothing's changed.

Christians aren't graft into Israel.

 

[from scratch]

Ah lunch time. And I'll go check the mail.

 

[tzadik]

Sorry to bother you with the law of liberty and grace.

The Law of Liberty is the Torah!

"And I will walk at liberty, For I seek Your precepts." Psalm 119:45

Knowing EXACTLY what pleases God and what doesn't = TRUE FREEDOM!

 

[tzadik]

For until the law sin was in the world.

You forget that little word also in your supporting verse you didn't quote. The verse doesn't say only.

Dodging I see.

You can't use a misinterpreted verse to hide behind.

SIN=Going against God's instructions.

Sin can not be accounted to someone who did not first receive instruction prohibiting or allowing it.

Common basic Christianity 101.

 

[tzadik]

Christians aren't graft into Israel.

Gentiles are grafted AMONG believing Israel into the ONE and ONLY Ekklesia of God!

But if some of the branches were broken off, and you, being a wild olive, were grafted in AMONG THEM and became partaker WITH THEM [Romans 11]

I as a wild-olive-branch Gentile am grafted in AMONG Abraham, AMONG David, AMONG Moses, AMONG John the Baptist, AMONG Paul, AMONG Ruth, AMONG all BELIEVERS!

 

[xBGx]

Gentiles are grafted AMONG believing Israel into the ONE and ONLY Ekklesia of God!

But if some of the branches were broken off, and you, being a wild olive, were grafted in AMONG THEM and became partaker WITH THEM [Romans 11]

I as a wild-olive-branch Gentile am grafted in AMONG Abraham, AMONG David, AMONG Moses, AMONG John the Baptist, AMONG Paul, AMONG Ruth, AMONG all BELIEVERS!

 

[Sophrosyne]

Gentiles are grafted AMONG believing Israel into the ONE and ONLY Ekklesia of God!

But if some of the branches were broken off, and you, being a wild olive, were grafted in AMONG THEM and became partaker WITH THEM [Romans 11]

I as a wild-olive-branch Gentile am grafted in AMONG Abraham, AMONG David, AMONG Moses, AMONG John the Baptist, AMONG Paul, AMONG Ruth, AMONG all BELIEVERS!

We (Gentiles) are grafted into Abraham..... and grafted in by faith as believers not into Israel at all because Israel did NOT exist till AFTER Abraham that would EXCLUDE him from the picture entirely